Please help me understand these 'Unclean' Error database GEDCOM-errors ... [closed]

Question

See the comment on this profile: Report 851 GEDCOM uncleaned Interpret date Reason: https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Oliver-2005&diff=prev&oldid=9632777

Can anyone explain the logic of this? I painstakenly personally ordened this GEDCOM-debris (another massively merged profile) - what is meant with "uncleaned interpret date"?

Answer 1

<ref> WikiTree profile Olivier-445 [https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Olivier-445&diff=prev&oldid=10443059 created] through the import of 8vd2yc_0008474r52hf8nedwec1c2.ged on Jun 30, 2013 by [[Olivier-378 | Amanda Calitz]]. {{Red|Included the following data: "''Birth Date: Mid to late 1500's - Could not interpret date in Birth Date''"}}</ref>

It specifically scans the biography for that statement "Could not interpret date".

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:DBE_851

This is to have us find the date and fix it so it can be entered into the fields if needed. So if you modify or remove the wording, the error goes away.

Answer 2

I think your sources 6, 7 and 8 are really better suited to being in ===Acknowledgments === after sources. Then I think the bit about not interpret date would not be a problem.

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I do not agree. That should not be an issue. Besides - I have edited [tens] of thousands of profiles this way and a source is a source is a source. An acknowledgement is something entirely different.

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The person adding the profile should be acknowledged but is not a source unless they had personal knowledge at the time, i.e. they attended a wedding or another event so were a firsthand witness.

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Actually, we use == Acknowledgements == now (two = on each side instead of three). Acknowledgements has been promoted. (I don't know how much more it's getting paid. )

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Bit like my volunteer job, they keep giving 50% pay rises!

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I think you should hold out for 60%. Inflation, y'know... 

Answer 3

That is an error that was generated when the gedcom was uploaded and in this case it was because there were letters in the number field ... so the wikitree system didn't know what to do with the expression "Mid to late 1500s".

Since you have already put in numbers in the profile's date fields, the error has been corrected.

error stated here in #6 ...

↑ WikiTree profile Olivier-445 created through the import of 8vd2yc_0008474r52hf8nedwec1c2.ged on Jun 30, 2013 by Amanda Calitz. Included the following data: "Birth Date: Mid to late 1500's - Could not interpret date in Birth Date"

The wikitree database is updated once per week so the suggestion should not show up next Tuesday.

Comments

You are correct as to the origin of the generated suggestion. However, the suggestion will continue to be generated as long as the profile contains the phrase "Could not interpret date".

To get rid of the suggestion you might replace

Included the following data: "Birth Date: Mid to late 1500's - Could not interpret date in Birth Date"

by

Included the following data: "Birth Date: Mid to late 1500's"

thus removing the error message generated at GEDCOM import time.

Answer 4

Personally I like to use this site for creating a biography

https://apps.wikitree.com/apps/shipley1223/Bio.html

That way you can get rid of all those sub-headings that are hardly necessary in a reasonably simple biography.

Also, an error will be generated if you have two subheadings that say "sources" or "biography."

Pat

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And not a bad way to fix many empty profile suggestions also.  Hard to believe  I have not come across this before.

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I LOVE this link!  Writing anything in the bio is my least favorite thing.  Now I can have something that looks decent and captures info I've put in the profile already.  Thank you!

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Hi Patricia, it is a wonderful tool, except it does not help to collate sources in a scholarly fashion in order to validate genealogical lines. In the past there were profiles who had the combined input of 10 people or more, most often with deviating data from deviating sources. So the protocol is to collate the data and the imported texts and avoid narrative. And support the socalled 'facts' with primary sources. This is the simple explanation as to why the bio looks the way it does. If we would have chosen any other mean in order to beautify, it would be fiction. These are project profiles, not personal profiles.

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But, it's a useful tool when a profile as no biography but has data field entries, but no sources.  The tool generates the "so and so was born in .... died in ..."  bio text.  It saves some typing.

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I agree, Jo.  Many profiles I work on are GED Imports with no biography and most times no sources.  This tool would get a nice little bio going and then I can add the source citation in at the appropriate place.   Not meant for the type of bio that Philip is describing IMO.  I bookmarked it so I can find it again easily.

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It is also in the info tab of the spreadsheet. Bookmarking THAT would save you a whole bunch of bookmarks. LOL

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jlRaiRtaMEpsPdeuRLS2ids4HAXJyGVCKiQyEMh4NNE/edit#gid=1869015104

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Good point Steven, I already that that sheet in one the most important places in my bookmarks bar!

One of my greatest regrets about that sheet (for the states names) is that people don't use it more.  I saw so many people fixing USA too early by simply removing the USA (a good thing) but not fixing the colony name while they were there.  They might not know about this great reference.  What can we do to promote it??