Are the colors of the Ancient Livingston Tartan picture correct?

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Should the ancient Livingston tartan be turquoise and orange?  I'm seeing red and green in the tartan shops in Glasgow, although I personally prefer the turquoise and orange.
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retagged by Ellen Smith
The Maxwell tartan has red and green in it, too. I'll look up the Livingston tartan for you. The sept is Macdougall and that tartan has red and green, also.

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As far as I know the Tartan is an English invention.
by Marion Poole G2G Astronaut (1.1m points)

The Dress Act of 1746 attempted to bring the warrior clans under government control by banning the tartan and other aspects of Gaelic culture. When the law was repealed in 1782, it was no longer ordinary Highland dress, but was adopted instead as the symbolic national dress of Scotland. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartan

Tartan has an ancient history. The earliest known tartan in Scotland can be dated to the third or fourth century AD. https://celticlife.com/the-history-of-tartan/

Interesting reading anyway.

Thanks, I stand corrected.
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I believe the Tartans had several colors, some were ancient and some more recent.  The red and green Tartan was  recorded prior to the launch of The Scottish Register of Tartans.https://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/tartanDetails?ref=2130

by Sandra Vines G2G6 Mach 4 (48.3k points)
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The Livingston tartan is defined as having 3 colors. Green, Red and Black. That is all the guidance given. The exact shade of green or red is up to the weaver. The image on the proflle says that it is the ancient tartan. Ancient tartan is actually a modern invention intended to sell more tartan.  The colors on ancient are someone's guess as to how the colors would fade over time. Most of the colors used with traditional dyes wouldn't fade the way modern dyes to but all is based on modern dyes.
by Doug McCallum G2G6 Pilot (406k points)
Good to know.

thanks
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"No!" is the short answer.

If you sign up for a free account with the Scottish Register of Tartans mentioned in Sandra Vines' previous answer, you can look up tartans on their website and, in some cases, request, from them, for free, an e-mail with the thread counts (up to five a day), which includes the hexadecimal codes for the colors listed in the thread counts.

It only took me about two minutes to login, request & receive the thread count for the Livingston Tartan, with the following hexadecimal codes:

005020 MOD GREEN"; 101010 "BLACK"; and DC0000 "RED"

You can Google those six-digit codes to find samples of what those colors should look like, subject to the settings on your monitor, the tint of the lenses you're looking through, the shade of the lamp you're using, et cetera.
by Anonymous Vaughan G2G6 Mach 2 (22.2k points)

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