why can i not request to be in my Trusted List?

Question

Wikitree makes it impossible for me to send from my email to myself with the same email a request to be in my Trusted List which wikitree demands that i do.When i do what wikitree demands i do wikitree is sorry that it cannot send a request from my email to my email as non-one is the recipient of the email from me to me according to wikitree. Sorry, i find that a little difficult to understand.I would be very grateful for a proper explanation which does not consist of links, to begin with. Afterwards I would be very grateful for  a solution to the problem which does not consist of links. Finally (hopefully) I would be very grateful to be able to connect together all the "profiles" i have seen of the same person i have correct information on. Unfortunately i do not have the time to enter one by one the over 2000 people in whatever your term is for what i call the 2 trees i uploaded as gedcoms to wikitree in the hope of not being prevented from whatever your term is for what i call merging them and likewise in the hope of not being prevented from contributing to what i agree is the great idea of having one tree for everyone, and not being prevented from collaboration. I have just seen that i might find wikitree a little intimidating at first. A little? I believe this is the third day of attempts. Yesterday I had vowed never again to try and to give up but i sincerely would like to be able to make a positive contribution to this great idea and i am extremely stubborn. So this is a last attempt.There are 2 whatever you call what i call trees in wikitree that could be whatever you call what i call merged. I have more whatever you call what i call  information which i could dare i say add. it is up to you whether or not you want wikitree to have incorrect information and me as at least 2 people and my mother as both my mother and with the same names, dates etc as her sister, i e 2 identical people as both mother and sister in the same profile of one of them . Those whatever you call what i call faults can either be eliminated or remain. You decide. Also I have a suggestion. The category options need expanding. Frustration and Help for Newbies need to be added as categories. I could suggest alternatives for those names but i am refraining from doing so.Thanks will naturally be given after each response has been successfully applied.

Sincerely,

Edwin Reffell

Comments

thanks. can you help me add myself to the language volunteer list? i have been trying to do that for hours and am going round in circles pressing buttons that take me to a page where i press buttons and in the end am back to the page pressed the first button with nothing done. i do not know how to get myself added, it had to do with categories and language templates and my profile. that is as much as i have understood. good night, it is past 4 .m. here.

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Edwin, did you go to this page?  There are instructions that tell you what to do. If you have any problem following those instructions, post back here and tell me the language and what you want to say about it and I can then do it for you.

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yes. i tried but got stuck at understanding the first instruction.

1. Copy and paste a section from one '|-' up to the next one i do not undertand where to find to copy and paste "the section from one and the" and i dont know what is between "one" and "up to the next one"

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“Chronologically privileged”

Classic! Gotta remember that one. I’m just under nine in dog years.

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i wouldnt mind giving half of that privilege away or trading it for a new or upgraded brain model.

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Edwin, if I can be 21 then you can certainly be whatever you want.  I discovered the secret to life is to find the right age and just stick with it.

Here is what you want to copy from that page - you can copy it from here easily, then paste it on that page in several places (group with the other listings for same language) - for each language that you want to list - and put the right information in there to replace what I put in red here:

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|valign="top"|language
|valign="top"|[[Reffell-713|E Reffell]]
|valign="top"|whatever you want to say about your skill level

For convenience, here is a link to the language page.
 

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thanks. i have copied |-

and from the page Language Volunteers went to the page Edit Profile of Language but do not know where on the Edit Profile of Language page to paste the |- 

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When you are on the edit page, you will see a long list of repetitions of those 4 lines, with different information in it for everyone who is listed there now.  You need to paste your set of 4 lines in there, making sure that it is between 2 other sets (or at the end) and does not break up a set by going in the middle of it.  Place your curser at the start of a line that has:  |- and do the paste there.  Each set starts with that.

If you tell me the languages you want to list there, I will put the sets in there for you and you can then just put the "whatever you want to say" in there for each one, without having to paste anything.

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thank you. i appreciate that very much. i do not mind which.  but i dont know which is most needed.

Hello,

as well as English i can speak Swedish, German, French, Italian (selftaught) , Spanish (evening classes) and Portuguese (evening classes) and was taught Classical Latin at school in England where i  studied the Scandinavian languages at UCL (main language Swedish, other languages included in Scandinavian Studies were Old Icelandic, Danish, Norwegian Bokmaal and Nynorsk with a bit of Faroese and Modern Icelandic, and my subsidiary subject was German with Middle High German) . 

 

 I can also get by with Polish (selftaught) and Persian  (selftaught) and can read  what is written using the Cyrillic alphabet. Also i have taught myself to read printed Persian and printed Hebrew and can write Persian and Bulgarian. 

i have helped Jewish people at JewGen and i have transcribed the 1881 census for part of Streatham as my father was born there in Sunnyhill Road. Transcribing records of Jewish people is very difficult because of all the languages involved and styles of handwriting especially Kurrentschrift which takes a lot of time to decipher, Compared with that transcribing UK censuses is easy. 

Which of the above languages are most needed and which of the languages do you have no translator or few translators for.? I am better at languages than at deciphering handwriting. One of my main hobbies is languages, how they relate to one another and how they work.

best regards,

Edwin

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WOW!!!!  I am SOOOOOOOO impressed!!!!

I just put as much as I could be sure of on that page.  Now when you go to the edit page, you'll see the last line of each set for your own listings where you can enter a description or change the one I put there.

THANX for the generous offer to help others!  This is the way WikiTree works - I offer my expertise, which is with geek-stuff and others help me with geography and Middle European research - we all have different strong and weak areas, but together we have total skills and knowledge of everything.

Answer 1

Welcome, Edwin!  You don't need to request to be on your own Trusted List.  You are already on it as Profile Manager.  Please let us know which profiles are duplicated, and we'll help you get them merged.

Comments

Herbert, it took me a very long time to write an equally long answer, after which I saw that you've started to work with Edwin, so I'll leave it in your more than capable hands!

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Thanks for the star, Gaile! 

And Edwin!

Answer 2

Edwin, first would you please take a deep breath, have some chocolate, count to ten, and/or whatever else will restore you to a state of calmness?  Maybe it will help to know that I promise that help is on the way and when you get past that first hump (which is probably more semantics than anything else) you'll start to enjoy working on WikiTree and being part of the big, wonderful, and friendly community here.

Let's start with the email problem.  You have a profile here (that's the word we use for the page that is dedicated to each person who has been entered in the WikiTree database).  Some profiles are those of WikiTree members, so yours is one of this group.  A member's profile includes an extra item of data that is usually not on a non-member's profile - that is, the member's email address.  You use that address (along with the password you selected) to log into your account here.  WikiTree uses that address to send you several different types of messages:

• every Wednesday, you'll get a Family News message
• anyone - another member or just someone who happens to find a profile that you manage - can send you what is called a private message, by entering it on WikiTree.  WikiTree sends that to you without revealing your email address to the person who wrote to you.
• When you ask, answer, or comment on questions in G2G (that's the name of this forum - it stands for "genealogist to genealogist"), WikiTree will automatically send you notice anytime someone else answers or comments on the same question.

You can choose to not receive any type of email messages if you wish (it's in your settings and I can explain how to get to that if you need it).

The next thing I'm going to explain is trusted lists.  Every profile has either none, one, or more profile managers.  It also has a trusted list, which can include members who are not managers, but have access to see and do more things with the profile than members not on that list can.  You are automatically the manager of your own profile, as well as of all profiles you add.  If you add a lot (a really big lot) of profiles and find that you don't want to remain managing some, you can remove yourself.  When a profile has no manager, we say it has been orphaned and we encourage any member with an interest in it to adopt the profile, meaning to become the manager of it.

Since you are manager of your own profile, there is no reason for you to request being added to its trusted list - you're already there.  There is also no reason why you would want to send yourself a private message through WikiTree - it would be the equivalent of you writing an email message and sending it to yourself or writing a letter, putting it in an envelope, putting your own address on it and sending it through the post office.

Please let me know if you have any question about the meaning of profiles, members, profile managers, trusted lists, and private messages before I try to address the rest of your questions.  I hope this is helpful to you - if not, please let me know how I can do better.