What is the name on this census record?

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Can anyone help decipher the name on line 45 of this record?

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/jpg/4108658_00321.jpg

FamilySearch has it transcribed as "Legush", but looking at other lines in the census pages, the first letter does not seem to be an "L".  I believe the individual is Catherine See, but I'm not sure where the rest of the letters recorded on the census may have originated.

WikiTree profile: Catherine Weightman
in Genealogy Help by Brian Lamothe G2G6 Mach 2 (28.7k points)

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Looks like "Sequch" to me.
by Stu Ward G2G6 Mach 4 (41.4k points)
It's definately an "S".  Look at like 49. The first name is Sara.

I have a favourite case like that too.  

Line 13: Is it a Y or a Z?  http://automatedgenealogy.com/censusnb51/SplitView.jsp?id=621

I agree that the first letter is an "S", especially since it matches the first letter of "See".  I can't decide if the middle letter is 'g', 'q', or 'y', or if it ends with "ch" or "sh".  I'm not even sure about the 'u' - I find a lot of things can look like 'u' in cursive.
Yours is a tough one.  I lean toward "Y" but it's heavily stylized either way you look at it.  And with "Y" and "Z" names being so uncommon, you might not find another example in the same handwriting for comparison.

Leguch 

Not your person but

"California, County Marriages, 1850-1952," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K8KP-X2T : 8 December 2017), Leguch in entry for Stefan Reissmann and Lydia Strauss, 06 May 1948; citing Los Angeles, California, United States, county courthouses, California; FHL microfilm 2,116,259.

Brian, I have other data that shows her name was Zuba.  However, that ambiguity has been an issue with me for 30 years. Some read it as Yruba which is the first way I saw it interpreted,  I believe this is her grand daughter: https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/9W5Q-52V

Nationality?  That might help.

I've heard of the name Zeruba before (biblical).

Here she is in 1861.  Line 683:

 https://www.wikitree.com/photo.php/4/49/Ward-21222.jpg

It's unlike any other name she's used but it's clearly her.  Dorothy Brundage was her daughter. 

In any case, I think the name Zuba was made up, likely short for Zubadath.  It was interpreted by the town clerk, her own grandfather, as Zebediah, a male name.  He got the birth date right.  She used what is probably her middle name, Elizabeth, for her marriage.   

A son of an early researcher (Hap Ward, Saint John) wrote this about her.

"Her name is first given as "Zebadath" on her father's family group sheet, but on her own sheet it is "Zubedath Ward, k.a. (known as) "Zuba"; however, on the subsequent sheets of her children, it is "Zubediah". This final one must be an error, as the "iah" suffix seems to be a masculine suffix in the manner of Obadiah, Jedediah, Zephaniah, etc. Of course, there is "Copiah Rice" in this database too... Also, on her own sheet, her year of birth is given as "1796-1801", where on the first sheet it is clearly "18 Dec 1796"."

The 1801 birth date came from her age as 50 in 1851.  The 1861 census said she was 66.
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Nice puzzle.

I find the couple in Drouin records, 5 stillborn children one after the other from 1834 to 1843, after a daughter Marie Adeline born in 1831, all in St-Hughes, the mother is listed as Catherine Sey on those records.

On the marriage of their daughter Marie Anne Withman (sic) to Paul Ménard in 1878, Catherine is listed under the name Sed.  She's a widow, John Withman is listed as deceased.  Resident of St-Hughes.

I find the marriage of John Weightman to Phoebe Mary Hungerford on 18 May 1843 in Stanbridge (Baptist church), he is listed as 21.  No parents named, so no idea if this is your couple's son.

Looking at the 1861 census, your Catherine's name looks like Segnets or Seynets, that is definitely an S at the beginning.  Note that she is listed as born in Bas-Canada on that census, whereas her husband is listed as born in England.  Their daughter Ann is with them, aged 30.

When I look at the 1871 census you have on her profile, page 2 line 4 has her as Catherine Witman age 70, church of England, a widow.  Her origin is listed as ''Allemande'', ie German.

1881 census pg 2 line 8 has her listed Catherine Witman, aged 95, born in USA.

Can't find them on 1851 census, but with name variations abounding for her husband, nor surprising.

So, would suggest you look in immigration records if you can, or ship lists.  They don't appear to get married here.  Of course, if she was born in USA, then she won't appear in immigration records, since the border was truly open back then, no records exist, nobody kept track.
by Danielle Liard G2G6 Pilot (365k points)
1852 Census of Canada East
 
St. Hugues
 
The manuscript census returns for this sub-district/division no longer exist.
 
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census52/District.jsp?ew=e&id=31

Child (un enfant) stillborn 18 Jan 1840

"Québec, registres paroissiaux catholiques, 1621-1979," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L99Q-7DJ9?cc=1321742&wc=9RLJ-VZ7%3A21008801%2C21008802%2C21950601 : 16 July 2014), Saint-Hugues > Saint-Hugues > Index 1827-1876 Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1827-1853 > image 296 of 746; Archives Nationales du Quebec (National Archives of Quebec), Montreal.

Marie Sara Ploudre? born 14 Feb 1845 (bapt 15) Saint-Hugues

daughter of Jean Ploudre? and Catherine Sey

"Québec, registres paroissiaux catholiques, 1621-1979," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G99Q-7DLL?cc=1321742&wc=9RLJ-VZ7%3A21008801%2C21008802%2C21950601 : 16 July 2014), Saint-Hugues > Saint-Hugues > Index 1827-1876 Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1827-1853 > image 453 of 746; Archives Nationales du Quebec (National Archives of Quebec), Montreal.

nice find E., that has to be their daughter Marie Sara. Who knows why the priest wrote Ploudre for the father, it fits exactly in sequence for children.  

The only Jean Plourde married to a woman named Catherine was Jean Baptiste Plourde to Catherine Minier dite Lagacé, having kids long before these two as their son Jean Sylvestre Plourde marries in 1825 in Kamouraska.
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Cath. Segura  That's my best guess.
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