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WikiTree profile: Pip Sheppard
closed with the note: End of Weekend Chat for June, 21 - 23, 2019
in The Tree House by Pip Sheppard G2G Astronaut (1.7m points)
closed by David Selman

It’s another Weekend Chat! Welcome and greetings from a sunny Cathey’s Creek. My job today is in the crammed garage. My wife and I have inherited so many things that my girls either don’t want (not one’s style) or don’t need yet (the other needs a bigger house). Gotta clean up and organize!

On the home front: A very necessary and immediate thing I need to do this weekend is to visit with my 92-year-old mother who knew some of the family (Hipp) that I’ve been working on this week. She is still sharp as a tack and is the last who would remember things that would fill out some profiles. She is also one not to miss out on a photo op, even if she is not the subject of the picture! This is an example of what I’m talking about. My daughter wanted a shot of herself with the three of us brothers, (it’s a rare thing that we’re all together). You can see my mom photo-bombing us on the left edge of the photo. One of my brother’s said, “Mom, this isn’t about you.” Oh, but he was and is so wrong. I think that at 92 you’re allowed a little leeway.

On the genealogy front: I grew up in what was once a rural part of Mecklenburg County, North Carolina. Across the road was an old two-story home. When my mom was growing up  (1920s/30s), a family lived there, my grandmother’s Aunt Mag and Uncle Charlie Hipp and their children. I found an old probate record that mentioned the property as being between lands of James M. Beaty, my grandmother’s g-grandfather (yes, his profile needs a good bio), and Hugh T. Rhyne, who married a cousin of my grandfather and not on WT yet. I recognized some of the landmarks (Long Creek and Rhyne’s Mill). Turns out that this property and the builder of the house was William Perry Hipp, a Confederate veteran who served with so many others from Paw Creek, quite a few who were related to me and many of whom would serve until Appomattox.  It was members of his regiment that accidentally shot General Stonewall Jackson.

William served in Company G, 34th North Carolina Infantry. He was a farmer when he enlisted on 30 September 1861 in Mecklenburg County. On 2 May 1863, William received a flesh wound of the hand at the Battle of Chancellorsville. Due to his wound, he was absent from his unit until October 1863. William was captured at the Battle of North Anna on 23 May 1864, and was confined to Point Lookout on 30 May 1864. On or about 14 March 1865, William was paroled and was transferred to Boulware's Wharf on the James River, Virginia, where he was exchanged on 16 March 1865.

I never knew this about the old house across the road, and my grandfather, who would have known William, never mentioned it. There were quite a few old homes in my neighborhood. William’s home was torn down about 1970. Hugh T. Rhyne’s house was torn down at 115 years old. Dr. Strong’s home, so magnificent, was lost after 100 years. Jacob Sidney Underwood’s home, was torn down at 117 years. I think that in the ¾ mile radius of my home, only two remain: the George Luther Neal home and the William Jasper Beaty home. The landmarks of my childhood are disappearing. Development has swallowed much of what I once knew. I barely recognized the area on a visit last summer.

On that happy note (!), I wish you all a blessed weekend and fruitful WikiTreeing. Enjoy the Chat!!

Thanks for hosting,Pip. Always fun finding historic things about places we lived or in the neighborhood.
Pip, have a great weekend and go visit your mama. :-)
At 92 , with a great sense of humour I say bomb away ‘mum’!
I agree with you Pip, how often does your Mom get to be in a picture with her boys and granddaughter?  Its a great shot.

laugh It is a bummer when History is torn down to be replaced by one more development of housing which is probably still not going to relieve the shortage of affordable housing -- but in many communities concerned citizens have grouped and managed to pull together something that preserves the Old Downtown or at least to gather together artifacts and portraits and set up a "walking exhibit" where you tour the hall and have a speaker you can "button" and hear someone "from the past" speak about something in their life, related to the portrait or artifact ... been to several around the country. In San Jose a number of buildings were rescued and placed in a park and refurbished to some extent and the park became a tour with guides.  Of this sort of preservation, WIlliamsburg is the prime example of what can be accomplished over time.  And if I recall correctly, so was the Alamo? Sometimes there's an old Army fort that is secured and refurbished and gives us a glimpse of the Past. 

In the Central Valley, California, "hot" and "dry" and a cold wind up your back even if you are standing in the sunny area ...think the humidity is responsible for the "chill" ... for the most part we're free of the hazards other areas in the United States deal with such as tornadoes / hurricane /  typhoon / cyclone / monsoon, tsunami, ... 

Earthquakes, yes. Range and forest fires, yes. Farther north in California, no one even admitted there were tornadoes until 2007. Floods and mud slides, yes, although where I am is the "flatlands" so unless the city's trees catch fire or the range around us burns, earthquakes are about the only hazard we face. Had enough of floods in my own life and don't fancy another one. The last one here was pre-1990's and the water district has been active and done well so that flooding even in many intersections has been much less of a problem, in the 2010's (which now I think on it, is soon to be the 2020's !!)

I suspect more and more people are going to ride that "2020" as a Visions of the Past, Visions of the Future themes in preservation, conservation, and History ... of course this last few years have seen a number of statues removed and hidden away ... so destruction of a Past, a History, however bloody it might have been, or benign is not "new" ... whole towns or at least villages have disappeared and we all know about cemeteries that vanish ... courthouses are destroyed and with them the records they had ... 

Here in my town, downtown, is a Historic (1890's) house with furnishing and you should SEE the kitchen. Oh, my and a string words I won't write out here, but oh, my ... broke my heart to see it and I could just imagine myself there and coping (hopefully) ... the house does have a discreet elevator (lift) that can go to the next floors up for the less physically abled. 

It requires a dedicated group of citizens with some moxey to put together and build a History exhibit, if nothing more in a wing of some public building ... and funding. And if you see a donor can or are canvassed, check it out and contribute if you can, if nothing more than artifacts, pictures, portraits, or time and labor ... 

Fortunately for us, my g-grandfather’ house was sold to a private owner to made some very needed upgrades to the home. It’s now a business, and the new owner is keenly interested in its history and preservation. Of course, if the Transportation Department decides to widen our old road, it’s probably a goner.
Great picture Pip.   Where do you find time for family trips?
Rarely! Most of the time, they come to me. But I really need to get on the road. I’ve got a cousin who knows a lot of the old stories and places. I’ve just got to hook up with him this summer.
Susan, I'll take that cold wind up your back, I'm in the Upper Mojave near Death Valley.

Atho May was one of the wettest months we have had in a very long time.  It rained so much, I decided to cultive Russian Thistle.

smiley Well, I'm thinking that the Mojave isn't where one would expect much in the way of humidity, but rainfall and humidity don't seem to be related one to the other ...

 I see rain sheeting down outside but the humidity is less than 10% or less than 5% and then on other days I see sunny bright skies, temps in the 80's and the humidity is 40%+ .. so given a breeze and a relatively warm period of the day, it would have to be the moisture content (humidity) of the air that would cause the wind to feel relatively chill ... 

Been along the edges of the Mojave, and one April we drove across it during the dark of the night just so we'd not cross it during the day ... seen photos of the desert in bloom after rains and it is gorgeous. 

Well, having lived in humid areas, like coastal towns, Jax, Fla and Galveston TX humidity goes down when it is raining.  

On the desert, we don't usually get rain at all, unless its snowing in the mountains.  Mammoth has enough snow pack to stay open till August.

Ditto to what everyone said here. Thanks for hosting the First Weekend of Summer WikiTree Weekend Chat Pip. Welcome everyone to the First Weekend of Summer WikiTree Weekend Chat. Where we live in Tennessee they said that this month and year has been the wettest since they started keep records on the weather.

smiley Lynette, I have to say my knowledge of weather / climate is limited to open the door, walk out there (in front) and then go to the back door and walk out there. At times it has been raining either in front or the back but NOT on the other side. Or it might be breezy on one side but not on the other, and by breezy I mean seeing the branches of the trees dancing. Or there might be fog wisping on one side or the other.  Happened once with a hail storm of short duration. 

Not sure what sort of weather warp we live in. But I just put it in the Box of Unexplained Phenomena. Box is very full now after nearly 75 years. 

've known people who lived in and around Mammoth during different seasons, they loved it except a few times when it was rattled by a significant earthquake. 

I am allergic to pines, resinous trees, of any kind, and my 18 months or so in S. Lake Tahoe were pure torture. Near a desert or "arid" region, dust is my bane. But when you have rains, it clears the air of all the allergens and the "world looks made anew" ... 

Well, I have totally experienced weather shock a couple of times, moving from the Desert to Galveston. I saw more rain in one day then I had in most of my life. I experienced a hurricane but compared it to the desert sandstorms of the Mojave. The only difference being rain vs sand. Florida and then to North Texas. When it rains 2" an hour for most of the day vs 0.3" per year.  Right now, I'm waiting for the annual stream to come up from the gulf of California and bring the humidity so our swamp cooler won't work.

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Good morning Pip, thanks for all you do for the community.

And hello to all fellow WTree'ers. Hope everyone stayed healthy this week.

Still working on expanding profiles horizontally, and appreciate all the responses from members I ask questions of in search of tips and information.

Stay safe and enjoy the weather.

I have to get back outside now and continue with my chores this morning.
by Rodney Long G2G6 Pilot (346k points)
Same here, Rodney! Chores, chores. Never ending. Just like genealogy, the hobby that has no finishing point.

Am I the only one putting horizontal development on ice until the connect a thon? cheeky

Ditto to what everyone said on this chat. No you are not SJ Baty I am also to. Plus I am trying to get my Team Tennessee Volunteers that I am captain of  together for that.

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Another busy week (aren't they all?). 

We had the house painted which caused bit of chaos and the cats were not happy with the activity anywhere near their domain. The young guy that worked on the back porch was very careful to not disturb the nest on the back porch. The young hatchling Phoebes got pretty vocal about not being fed as regularly as usual but the parents eventually got used to the new people.

The garden is now in maintenance mode for the summer. Still need to find the irrigation leaks but those will need to wait until we get back from GRIP (Genealogical Research Institute in Pittsburgh). I plan to actually learn the proper way to do source citations.

Genealogically, mostly spent time on WT doing Categorization and some Canada Project tasks. Tweaked a few profiles. Also did the pre-work for the class I'm taking next week, 

by Doug McCallum G2G6 Pilot (341k points)
There’s more than one leak, Doug? I thought just one.

When you get back from GRIP, we’ll want to hear how it went and what you learned.
Yes we will!
Will report when I return. Yes, two leaks. The second one wasn't obvious due to it being in the same area as our sump pump daylights.

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Good Morning, Today is .......



Observed annually on June 21, it is National Peaches ‘n’ Cream Day.  Peaches ‘n’ Cream sounds like a perfect way to start summer solstice.  Actually, it sounds like the perfect way to end summer solstice as well!  
Peaches ‘n’ Cream is a simple, traditional and delicious summertime dessert.  Of course, the Georgia peach is in season during the month of June, as are those grown in Florida, California and South Carolina.  Make some homemade vanilla ice cream to sweeten the deal and your peaches ‘n’ cream will be all the cooler.  

It’s interesting to note that doctors theorize Typhoid Mary may have spread the bacteria through cut up raw peaches in frozen ice cream.  So, wash those hands vigorously! 


Give these peachy recipes a whirl:

Peaches ‘n’ Cream

Peaches and Cream Muffins

by Dorothy Barry G2G Astronaut (2m points)
Love fresh peaches and cream is a perfect accent for them. It's a little early for local peaches but it is a thought....
Peaches and ice cream will have to do. In fact, nectarines and vanilla ice cream are what I have right now. BREAKFAST.

Have a good weekend, Dorothy!
I had peaches on my Shreddies this morning for breakfast, too.  Yummmm!  (so far, no signs of typhiod)
Dorothy, this reminds me of grandma’s. Loved her peaches and cream!
Wish I has some "Peaches and Cream right now!! Or even Blue Bell Peaches and Cream ice cream would do.

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I dodged raindrops all week and have been dogsitting my son's 9-year-old dachshund/shi tzu mix, Chewie.

On the genealogy front: adding more Durbins to the name study. Maybe someday I'll find out how I fit into the whole Maryland Durbin line! LOL. Right now I'm still just a girl, standing in front of a tree, trying to figure out which branch to climb. :-)

I've been lining up paint chips, trying to figure out what color to paint my dining room, as it's been a deep brick red for about 10 years. The furniture is, of course, 90's-era oak in a yellow/orange stain, so it's a challenge. I'm NOT buying new dining room furniture, no matter how out of style this is! I still love it...good, solid, Amish-crafted furniture.

Anyway, have a good weekend, fellow WT'ers!
by Natalie Trott G2G6 Pilot (585k points)
Oh, I love paint chips!  There are lots of options that would complement your lovely furniture, and I'd say the stylish choice is whatever works best for you.

Enjoy your weekend, your choices, and your Durbin puzzle.

Choosing colors is always a challenge but can be a lot of fun.   The two directions are complementary colors or analogous colors. something on the blue-green side would work with yellow-orange furniture (complementary). Your brick-red is the other type. The other side of that would be a yellow green. Lots of fun. The difficult part is getting the spouse to go along with it.

This is definitely my wife’s job, picking colors, and I’ve been pretty satisfied with them. “Amish-crafted furniture” has an appeal all its own, and its timeless, even elegant. I bet it’s beautiful, Nat!

Right now I'm still just a girl, standing in front of a tree, trying to figure out which branch to climb.

I'm sure there's a song in there somewhere, if it hasn't been written already.

I'm still just a girl (she's just a girl)
standing in front of a tree (in front of a tree)
trying to figure out which branch to climb (to climb)
Chorus: She's climbing her tree, on branch at a time...

Very nice SJ, I like that song, maybe we can make it the Wikitree Anthem somehow.

Oh what lovely suggestions! A nice blue-green would probably look great. What I have on the table right now are strips with a variety of warm "griege" shades. They do have personality, but are very neutral. I'll pick up some blue-greens and check them out. Thanks, Doug. 

I do like the furniture, Pip. We waited years to have "real" dining furniture, as we had old "dinettes" before that.  I do wish I had my grandma's formica and aluminum dinette set with the shiny red vinyl covered seats. They were so cool!

That sort of thing.

SJ, that would be a cool song, I'm sure!

Nat that looks just like my grandmother's set!
My grandmother’s was off-white, same style!
I had a red table just like that, it was my mom's.  The chairs were long gone by the time I got the table.

Table and Chairs look familiar?????   This is my Granny's table in 1971,   she died at the age of 93 and still had these table and chairs.   For some reason the table no longer seems huge.

Ditto  to what everyone said here.

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Today is:

The first day of summer! You know what that means. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr0tTbTbmVA

I play that every time summer rolls around on Twitter. I think I did it last year here, too. Not sure. I am not about to dig through my past posts because LORD there are a lot of them. Been spamming up the joint for a while. =)

On the genealogy front:

I merged a bunch of Stanley profiles into one and I recently asked a question about Hannah Lovering. Turns out that there's no proof of her parents because of a few facts. There may have been two Hannah Lovernings.

She'd have been 13 at the time of the birth of her son.  I made a note of that. While it IS possible, it was a major no-no in 18th century New England. 

Ah well. I had to ask because someone attached parents to her. 

In other news, my Aunt Linda came by for a quick visit as she was on the way to Maine for a dog show. She breeds and shows dogs. She showed some pics from my grandfather's house in FL as she wasn't sure what to do with some stuff in there. 

Since we were looking at her tablet, I noticed a few things on his dresser. Namely old photos. One pic of a guy in a sailor suit circa World War 1 caught my attention. I asked her to zoom in. The face was a little obscured by another photo. But, it looks like it might be his father, Alfred.  She's gonna get the pic for me. 

On the non genealogy front: They're coming next week. My nephews!

Will need to make preparations. Re: Brush up on Monopoly skills. Kid's a shark in that game.

by Chris Ferraiolo G2G6 Pilot (285k points)
Summer in New England=trips to all of the ice cream and clam shacks! lol. Best time of year up here!
Damn right. =) Especially along the NH seacoast and Merrimack.
Hm.  I have some Loverings back there.  When I get a sec I'll dust off the sources and see if I can discover anything about your Hannah.
Cool. Any help would be appreciated. Apparently there were two of 'em. One would have been a teenager when her son was born. The other would have been a bit older. It's a little confusing.

Get those pics, Chris!! Or, they’ll end up with someone who won’t care as much or give them their due like you can.

You know....I think I heard you say this post out loud before you mashed that "Add comment" button. Weird.

I'll get the pics. Don't worry. And then I will share them. =D
More than 2 Hannah Loverings, I think, just two who are easy to find. The other was born in 1747. But there are other branches of the Lovering family that aren't as well documented, and ample room for another Hannah Lovering, or a widow Hannah (unknown) Lovering who remarried Samuel Tandy. I think she's fine the way she is for now!
Thanks, Laurie. This is a wee bit of a puzzle.

Ditto to what everyone said here on this chat.

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Hey, all! Enjoy your weekends.

Lawn and Garden: just got in from mowing the second half of my yard (it's 1/3 of an acre, I have a push--and I do mean push--mower, and I'm getting old, so when it gets hot, I split it into two days). There's a storm front coming in about 3 hours, with lightning, hail, rotation in it already, even before the heat of the day has built. Please, storm, leave my little green tomatoes alone!!

Genealogy: I've reached the Cs on my US Civil War project--whoo hoo! (I'll not think about how many letters there are left in the alphabet, lol.) Got myself connected here to Captain Joseph Hayes, but I have three more Hayes families to enter between us--man, those big families are a job! Luckily, up at his end, they were pretty wealthy, which means more sources. Last thing: my aunt gave me my grandmother's photo album, which she thinks her daughter would just throw away. We spent 3 hours IDing everyone we could in it.

Other life: My property tax bill came this week, as did my house insurance bill, leading me to ask not for the first time why I bought a house again (after 15 years without one).cryingHistorical thrillers fill my "between hours."

by W Counsil G2G6 Mach 2 (21.9k points)
Historical thrillers be a good distraction from property woes!  Stay safe in the storm.
thanks, Laurie. We have had so many tornado warnings already this year, we all have what they call Warning Fatigue. I don't care about my roof, just those tomatoes!
The photo album: what a treasure. Glad you had someone who could ID those folks, WC. I’ve got one that not one person in it is IDed.

Ditto to what everyone said in this chat.

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Pip, Checking in as you requested. Last weekend's storms spawned 3 more tornadoes near me, no damage to my place, and it has rained for 71% of the days in April, May, and so far in June so the flood watches are everywhere up here. Lake Erie is still at record high levels but I am sitting high and far from the lake so I am not worried about that. I have the class tonight and we are having a graduation party for the one granddaughter tomorrow at our house. That means no genealogy for me for yet another week. Sorry. I promised the grandchildren if they got their Ham licenses I would give them one of my handheld's. I only have two that are worth even giving them and I have two grandson's taking the class so I guess I have to buy a new handheld for myself, me and my big mouth, right!
by Dale Byers G2G Astronaut (1.3m points)
Today and tomorrow it is supposed to be sunny and no rain so maybe we will dry out a bit.
We live on the dry-dry-drier West Coast, and we would like to share some of your excess irrigation. At dinner the other day, we were discussing the ins and outs of pipelines.  I know they're controversial, but in this case we wouldn't have to worry about leaks, and we can just add a soaker hose on the far side of the Rockies.

Dale, you guys have really been pounded by he weather up there. I had to laugh about you training up the next generation and it costing you!! laugh Yep, you just had to go and put your foot in it, didn’t you?!? How funny!

Don’t worry about the genealogy. It’ll always be there waiting for your return.

Laurie there was a proposal a few years ago to pipe the water out west  but the State's bordering the Great Lakes shot it down.
I'd forgotten that uproar of a few years ago.  If you can rush that bill into congress in the next month, every member of the bordering states would vote for any way to lower those Great Lakes by two feet.  Maybe a BIG off and on switch for the years it is so bad.  Houses swamped, docks destroyed, land eroded by yards, not inches, boating too dangerous with floating debris, roads washed out, etc.

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My oldest grandchild will get married tomorrow in Ohio.  They are doing a very low key wedding and applying the savings to college debts.  After a honeymoon they will be home for a family size reception combined with a graduation celebration for her younger brother next weekend.  My son is on the road today, headed to Ohio from New York, a ten hour drive.

I am struggling to keep my lawn mowed, with arthritic back problems, rain every other day, and a walk behind lawn mower.  I can't run the new contraptions and have a phobia of tipping over on slopes.   I mow for 20 minutes and sit down for half an hour.  Professional help sounds better every week.  The grandsons have all grown up out of the
job and moved on to more lucrative (to them) pay.  I paid
$15 for a half hour job, plus refrigerator raiding privileges
when strawberries and blueberries were in season.  $18
per hour and pizza delivering jobs don't translate the same in my mind but "lawn mowing" jobs are for "kids".  No old
enough kids live in my area right now and I refuse to get
into insurance problems if an underage child gets hurt running machinery on my land.

Note to anyone considering landscaping.  DO NOT plant
a weed known commonly as bamboo, but officially as Japanese knot weed.  Last summer, with my knee replacement surgery,  I didn't keep it cut down as usual.  It developed a tremendous root system and this year is going
full tilt.  It grows one to two feet tall a day and in three days of too wet weather to get into it, it blocked my view from all of my front windows.   I finally got it pruned down a couple of days ago and hope to start being able to keep it under control with better weather.  The correct name should be
Japanese IS A weed!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm delighted to see Eddie King back.  I wish there had been a way to give him access to my dandelion greens a
few weeks ago although I suspect he has a constant supply where he lives.  I did enjoy some included in my regular
salad mix several times before they bloomed.  I thought of him every time I deadheaded them, trying to prolong the mowing job.
by Beulah Cramer G2G6 Pilot (202k points)
edited by Beulah Cramer
you have my sympathy on both mowing and invasive plants!
I understand about lawn mowing. One of my least favorite chores but the yard is big and takes a lot of time even with a riding mower. I also sympathize with the invasive weeds. We don't have that one but have several others that have to be kept in check. Hope the mowing doesn't aggravate your back too much.
We are just about to the point of getting a service, Beulah. It takes more of a toll on my mower than me, but I’m getting tired of trying to keep up. Tie and a half acres and the trees we planted are growing fast enough to keep the grass down under them.

Your bamboo story gave me shivers!    Two years ago my husband transplanted some bamboo from a nearby stream  (in northern Missouri)  to the low point  of our backyard where it's often soggy.    By the second year,  it was really starting to take off and it's aggressiveness scared me  (didn't want to have it invading my nearby flower beds)..... but we moved.   Sure hope our new home owners haven't inherited a problem!!!

What state do you live in??   I'm hoping Missouri is too far north for the bamboo to be a big problem.
I live in northern New York.  This is an ornamental plant
that was pushed in the 1930s as a filler plant.  It is not a true
bamboo, only called that because it looks like a poor reincarnation of true bamboo and grows like the dickens like true bamboo.  The seed catalogue, if it is still being sold, call it Japanese Knot Weed.  As I said Japanese IS A weed.  It spreads by roots, seeds, and any that falls off the lawn mower cuttings if it lands in fertile open ground spots.
I think the birds spread it through their feces also.  It just shows up in spots you can't understand any other reason.
Did your former home owners ask for a partial refund of the purchase price?
They've only  had possession for 4 weeks.   While our front yard had landscaping similar to most midwestern suburbs,  the back yard was packed with ground cover,  flower beds, vines, shubs, small trees and a vegetable garden.  I was a bit concerned that the new property owner wouldn't realize they needed to keep it up.  I left a diagram showing the names of plants in the back yard, and mentioned the aggressive ones.    Perhaps I'm over thinking this,  if they're not  "plant people"  they'll just kill everything and plant grass.
I hope they are "plant people" and pass the drawings on if they ever need to.  Almost everyone would appreciate the time and thought you spent for them.  I know I would.
Knotweed is evil stuff.  Once you know what it looks like you realize it's everywhere here (northern New Jersey).  Chokes out native plants (and associated critters), and it's really tough to eliminate.  I've managed to keep it out of my yard so far, though.  Just poison ivy and greenbrier to deal with there...

If its the same Japanese knot weed its a big problem over here in the UK. Apparently it was introduced in the 19th C to help stabilise railway enbankments.

In the last few years  laws have been introduced in an effort to control its spread. You now have to declare its presence when selling a property and provide the buyer with a professionally costed  management plan for getting rid if it. If you try to control it by cutting back or digging out, the debris can't be got rid in normal green waste but has to be burned or else sent to a specially  licensed landfill site.

There are maps to pinpoint areas of infestation.



I expect the landfill has to be cement lined to keep it from
spreading, even after it is "dead".  It probably disrupted the railroad lines with its aggressiveness.  Peggy is lucky hers was just regular bamboo.  New York winters with four feet of snow and freezing temperatures in the fall and spring do nothing to keep it under control.             P.S.  I just read the
British article on controlling knotweed.  Very smart of them
to work so hard to help buyers avoid it when buying real estate.   I seem to have a bigger job than I imagined to keep
it under control  I know it has spread to one new place from my original spot.  The house on one side and mowed lawn on three sides has done that pretty effectively for the rest of
fifty years of living here.  But every one keeps cutting it back so we can see out of the windows.

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Thanks for sharing the lovely photo, Pip! I was born and raised in Spartanburg County, SC. I also have relatives and ancestors in Mecklenburg County.
by Paula J G2G6 Pilot (236k points)
Paula, I think we’ve got several connections! Even some slight ones. I remember driving Highway 11 and passing through Fingerville (gotta be your folks). A common ancestor in your Runyon line. And, if I am correct without checking again, I think you have some German lines whose families were neighbors of mine in what is now Gaston County. I grew up close to the River, so I have many ancestors and relatives in both counties.

Yes that’s right! Fingerville was named after my third great grandfather, Joseph Finger . And we do have many more connections!


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Good afternoon fellow WikiTreers!

I bring felicitations from an unusually (for this year) sunny North Cheshire in the wonderful north west of England. :)

As a new member of the community I have been busy learning the ropes via the England Project Orphan Trail and have just joined the Lancashire and Gedcom teams… so watch me biting off more than I can chew to start off with. :D

I'm looking forward to a relaxing weekend as I have no appointments to worry about and—most importantly—I seem to have eliminated the ingress of ants that were plaguing me during the week.  I quite happy for ants to exist outside, but when they come inside and grow wings… I grow horns and a bug spray.

I'll get back to my first Gedcom project profile now: I just found that it was on the 'World Family Tree' CD volume 83 from when Brøderbund were doing the things back in the 90s… so it could well have gone through a lot of transmogrifications since then. :^)

Have a good weekend everyone,
by Geoff Riley G2G6 (6.5k points)
edited by Geoff Riley
I don't know if you have this brand of ant poison in England
but I have had very good luck with "Terro".  You put a drop on
a piece of flat cardboard and the workers take it back to feed the colony and they are all killed off in a couple of days.  Some times there will be a circle almost one third inch thick
around the drop, feeding on it.  It comes in a small bottle.
Thanks Beulah, I'm not familiar with "Terro", but the spray that I use is slightly viscose and designed to be carried back to the nest, so I think it probably works in much the same way.
Congrats on graduating from the Orphan Trail, Geoff! What an experience, huh? I loved it.

I passed through northwest England many (many!) years ago, and recall its beauty. I hope to visit again someday.

We use Andro here (US) for ants, but only for the fire ants that have taken over the South so quickly. Kills the queen and the colony dies out. The bites are particularly painful.
Indeed, the Orphan Trail was great fun.

Thankfully we don't suffer with fire ants over here (yet?) but I've heard many tales of people and animals encountering them in the wild.
Fire ants are pretty nasty beasts. When I lived in Texas, they were a particularly bad problem. We fed them dry grits and then then watered the nests the next day. That usually worked.
I gotta remember that one! Cheaper, too.

Ditto to what everyone said on this chat especially about fire ants when we lived down in Loudon, Tennessee we had a heck of a problems with those varmits even got around and in the garden when we had a garden.

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Hi Pip, thanks for hosting the Chat again!

Greetings, WikiKin, and a happy Summer or Winter Solstice to all.  The weather here is finally behaving more normally: day after warm cloudless day and lovely cool nights.

Where did this week go?  It seemed like not much going on for me, and yet here it is Friday.  Kind of a slow week Wiki-wise, and the origami deities did not smile upon my efforts either.  I might make another attempt this weekend if my elbow feels better.  Since yesterday afternoon, it has felt like there's a big shard of glass embedded in it.  crying



by Herbert Tardy G2G6 Pilot (521k points)
Oh too bad!  I hope your elbow sorts itself out miraculously, while you nap.

Herbert, I’m beginning to think the pain in my shoulder might be a pinched nerve. It often travels to my elbow. I feel for you. 

Now, get busy on another origami. It wouldn’t be the Weekend Chat without a creation from you! smiley

Thanks, Laurie and Pip!  It could be a nerve, or more likely a tendon.  Or gout.  That Henry VIII connection, ya know.  It's quite tender, which harshes my origami vibe.
Sorry to hear about the elbow Herbert.  I sure hope it gets better soon.  I heard Apple Cider Vinegar helps with all kinds of ailments, tastes awful in liquid form but you can get it in capsule type form.
Thanks, cuz!  I'm going with 'I' therapy:  ice, ibuprofen, inactivity, inebriation.

Ditto to everyone on this chat here.

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Currently, it's 19˚ C in Fort Erie, heading for a predicted high of 21˚ C, a low tonight of 12˚ C, and a high of 23˚ C tomorrow. It's not supposed to rain until Monday, so we may actually get the lawn mowed this weekend.

I'm holding off posting any more "Can you help connect...?" or "Quest for Great-Grandparents" challenges until some of them get completed, because they've gotten way out of hand. So, I've been going through some of the old challenges, seeing where I can make some connections or find ancestors. In the "Quest for Great-Grandparents: Archivist Edition", Henry Maxwell-Lyte has a hyphenated last name, so I thought I might make some progress tracing ancestors by checking out his entry on ThePeerage.com. Sure enough, I turned up two great-grandparents, and managed to move that challenge up out of last place. (I had begun to despair that we'd ever make any progress on the archivists, so I'm right chuffed about that.)

by Greg Slade G2G6 Pilot (303k points)

I think you’re the 4th person to mention mowing, Greg! surprise It must be summer everywhere now. 

As of yesterday Friday it was the first day of summer in Tennessee Pip so it should be in North Carolina.

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+13 votes
Greetings from Everett, Washington, to Pip and all!

Where did the week go?  My advice to myself and other wise people is to slow down, take it a chunk at a time, don't get frantic to finish it all.

I have piles of fabric all over the upstairs that never seem to decrease.  I know, however, that there must be some reduction due to the number of quilts that go out the door to Project Linus.  I did the finishing quilting on two quilts yesterday.  But last week I went to Quilting Mayhem, the store in Snohomish, and bought a big piece of pink as a backing. The quilt is for a little girl in Poland.  I haven't started putting together that one yet.

On Wednesday I gave a talk about Wikitree to my Toastmasters club in Mukilteo.  I discovered that one of our new members is interested in Gedmatching.  The comment was that it had a lot of interesting anecdotes but the evaluator would have liked to hear more about the step-by-step process of signing up and learning to contribute.  I suppose that I can talk about Wikitree again, and this time go back to the basics.  At least my Power Point slides worked this time.  The last time I tried to do the talk when the tech failed and I had nothing to illustrate what a profile looks like.

I did a major cleanup of early (1750-1800) Kirk family profiles from southwest Virginia this week, and apparently it inspired other PMs to get involved and add more.  I like when that happens.

In Appleton, Wisconsin, my mother's hometown, the local bicycle shop is putting on a celebration of 100 years of Fox Street.  I got an email asking about an article I wrote on the Saiberlich family, who established the Eagle Mfg. Co. there. I had nothing new but they said they'd put a copy of my article in the time capsule.  Very sweet.

We also had time, all four of us, to attend the kickoff of the campaign of a former Mukilteo mayor who this time is running for a seat on the city council.  We do this to keep personally aware of local politics and also to give an example to our two adult children so that politics doesn't seem distant to them.  I was gratified that neither found it boring and that they were talking to people they knew about local issues.

I am aiming to make 1,000 contributions this month and to do more of those pesky chores.  And, of course, deal with the fabric.
by Margaret Summitt G2G6 Mach 7 (77.1k points)
Margaret, your comment about bicycles reminded of an article I found of a distant relative who made a living in the New England, and maybe larger, area as a trick bicycle rider.
I think it was in the late 1800s or early 1900s.  His last name was Maltby.
I also have a big stash but have hardened my heart to the
impulse or wishful thinking vibes when I am in the fabric shop after thread to be able to use more of the piles at home.  I haven't succumbed in about a year.
Margaret, I hope that I will always be able to keep the pace like you do. What wonderfully interesting life you lead!
I'm with you!  In my Closet of Good Intentions, Fabric is like books.  I can't buy a new (book/fabric) until I move out something of equivalent dimensions.

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Welcome to Summer!  I have put all yardwork on hold this weekend, in celebration of my 16th birthday (what, again?)  There will be at least one leisurely hike in the forest, a feed of spotted prawns and strawberry shortcake, plenty of wine and stories, and some very good friends.

On the WikiTree front, I've been helping with the clean-up of categories in Atlantic Canada. You may not be aware that New Brunswick is Canada's only officially bilingual province, and this week I've had great fun learning how to use some of WikiTree's multilingual tools. (You can check it out here). Its all part of keeping track of my own rather extensive extended family, and biding time until I travel to the archives in July.

by Laurie Giffin G2G6 Mach 6 (66.5k points)
Laurie, I’d love to visit New Brunswick as I have an ancestor an dhis brother, Loyalists, who left the US riht after the Revolution to settle there. Interestingly, my ancestor’s wife and children did not go with him. His brother is did.

And... Happy Birthday!!

Thanks Pip!  

The Revolution was a really divisive time, and families were literally torn apart. In my Giffin line, the American and Canadian branches had no contact for over 100 years.  The American branch didn't know they had Canadian relatives until a genealogist came to Halifax to look for his ancestor's grave.
Wait. I thought Quebec was bilingual. When I went to Montreal there were French and English signs. Huh. Okay. And happy birthday!
I’d just about do anything to find my ancestor’s grave, along with his brother’s. I know I probably still have cousins there, but the Revolution sundered our families, even to this day.
Québec is officially French only. New Brunswick is bilingual and all the rest are English.
The bilingual changes are looking good, Laurie. I liked that one of the first you did was may Dad's hometown.
Happy birthday, Laurie!
Thanks Herb!
@Doug McCallum - Newcastle was my grandad's hometown too, and his ancestors all the way back before the Miramichi Fire. I wouldn't be surprised if our ancestors were neighbors, or went to school together.

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This weekend I'm focusing on outdoor projects,  even though there's a plethora of boxes I could unpack.   But why unpack books, etc., when we need to build book shelves for them?

When we moved in May 18th,  my plan was to not plant anything new this year..... just eradicate the poison ivy and weeds and nurture the struggling plants.   But then..... naturally I had to plant the spirea start from my  family homestead in Arkansas and our realtor gave me a crape myrtle for a welcome gift.  But what's really killed the plan  is the nursery 3 miles away that's going out of business....  This weekend I'll be planting the hostas, lavendar and juniper blue pacific I bought at 50% off.    I'm not driving that direction again because 75% off might cause another lapse.

Bottom line,  so far we love it here in Ringgold, Georgia.   Perhaps the police are a little more aggressive than in Kansas City  (they tased a 110 pound, 86 year old arabic woman who was collecting dandelions on private property)....but we're happy with our new move.

by Peggy McReynolds G2G6 Pilot (173k points)
Peggy, there’s a nursery just down the road from us, and they seek at discount prices. Good thing we are still paying off a wedding, or Poor Pip would be planting more trees and shrubs!
I'm definitely taking your advice Beulah!
There are two empty boxes at the top of your entry.  Were
pictures supposed to printed in them?   They leave room for
Bad plants.

You're too observant!    I've been having trouble posting pictures.   I've gotten it to work ONCE..... but once again  today when I post a URL from my Free Space photo,  it doesn't recognize the URL.....  was trying to experiment.   I think you're right,  must be caused by aggressive plants.

Hi Peggy, Go to your Free Space photo page right click and copy the photo, come back to the chat and hold down the ctrl key and paste the photo into the edit box and save. No need for the URL.


500px-Photos_for_Peg-2.jpgWow David..... Thanks for the help!

500px-Photos_for_Peg-1.jpgJust making sure I could do it again.   You're the best David.

Your very welcome, Peggy! Always happy to help a WikiTree member.

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Thanks always Pip for hosting.  Hope your chat with Ma goes good.  Consider bringing a video camera or recording on your phone?  Great-great-grandkids might get a kick out of it someday not to mention you'll never transcribe something wrong if you have the original.

I've been chipping away at the genealogy, some mundane work (boring) has helped me to near a thousand contributions.  And some work on the mentoring side.  I'm missing working on my Bio Builders profiles this week.

The San Juan Festival is nearing is climax.  It is a 3 week long party - they shut down the whole town, daily parades, fireworks, lots of tourists, dress-up, etc.  They build 20' tall (7 meter) statues all over town and paint them elaborately.  Then tomorrow night will be a massive parade and then at midnight they will light off fireworks at each of them (there are about a dozen throughout town) and following the fireworks they will burn them.

This is the Catholic adaptation of the old (ancient) mid-summers party.  We have a lot of Celt holdovers - after the burnings, the town spills down to the beach and a few tens of thousands of people will drink, smoke, light fireworks, and jump through bonfires.

And then on Sunday night, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday nights, at midnight, there will be massive fireworks shows on the beach.  We can see the fireworks from our balcony and we usually have friends over and some cocktails.

It is like Mardis Gras, 4th of July, and New Years all rolled up into one.

If you look at the many pics on this page, you'll get the idea:


Two weeks ago I was asked by Betty Fox to post some of the wife's sewing so I made a free space page:

Baty sewing

You can see some pics there.  Tonight she is working on this:

by SJ Baty G2G6 Pilot (766k points)
Nicely done. Does she create her own designs?
Yes, many of them are her own.  And she often plagiarizes inspiration - when she sees a pattern she likes, she prints a copy and then while looking at the example she will hand sketch with a pencil onto the fabric some of the leaves, branches, and will just make her own based on the other design.  She can paint quite well and fortunately, our daughter has inherited this talent.
Wow! Those statues are elaborate and beautifully decorated. And they all go up in smoke! The beach scenes look like a lot of fun.

And... you wife’s work is beautiful, too!
That she can design her own makes them extra nice.
Wow on your wife's talent SJ. Her workmanship is beautiful.  As to the week long party, I love the photos and am glad to enjoy the celebration in that way, looking at the pics.

Ditto to everyone on this chat.

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Greetings from Long Island, New York! A little birdie told me that it will not rain this weekend. This is wonderful news. You see my garden is not yet in maintenance mode. It has rained every weekend for a while. However, since there are no floods, tornadoes, etc. I can hardly complain. I still have a lot of plants to transplant into the ground, and, don't tell my husband, but I will be planting beans everywhere. He has this funny quirk that he doesn't like the way the grow because they can be like ivy and grab on to their neighbors. He really hates that! So, what he doesn't know won't hurt him. He will certainly enjoy eating them! We still have to plant our new roses and throw mulch around the place. I have trouble walking, so I lay the mulch thick to form an even walking path around the garden.

On the Genealogy trail: I am still adding soldiers from the 55th Massachusetts. I am pretty excited because I can "use" the Connect-a-Thon to work on building out these guys' families, if I can find any information.

by Lucy Selvaggio-Diaz G2G6 Pilot (372k points)

Happy that you can finally get your garden in. Beans are some of the most interesting plants. I lost count on the number of varieties my wife put in this year (both green/yellow beans for fresh eating and dried ones). Some year you might want to put in a few cranberry fleder (a dried variety) They tend to have the beans in light purple background with dark purple swirls and splotches. One friend has made jewelry from them. They taste good, too.

Oh, Lucy, I remember bean stakes and twine! Hope your turn out as good as ours were!

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+13 votes
Welcome to the weekend everyone. To echo other posts - where did the week go? Yes, my husband mowed the lawn. We have also picked green beans and picked our first tomato today (YEA!). The *&^%&$ zucchini -- I thought I had two to stuff, but found 4 so, even with freezing some, we are still eating stuffed zucchini.

I have finished adding needs_profiles_created to those on my watchlist that are missing spouses or spouses' parents or siblings. It is a much slower slog to go back through them to see if I can find any existing profiles, especially when you run into a dozen or more for a given name that have no birth date or location -- otherwise known as the entry to a rabbit hole.

It really seems like I haven't accomplished much on genealogy, but in the long term the time I have been spending setting up a new computer should really help. I have decided to run Linux (mint) because really the only Windows things I need are RootsMagic and AdobeDigitalEditions -- which I should be able to run in the windows emulator. When finished, the machine should be really fast, and I will have relearned some computer geek stuff. (for the technogeeks - 16G memory, latest Intel I7 processor, 512 Gb SSD, 1Tb HDD, 6 Gb memory on GeForce GTX 1660)
by Kay Sands G2G6 Pilot (263k points)
oh yeah, where did the week go?

And its almost July, where did the year go?
Kay, I get that way sometimes. I start following a line, branch off, and have to drop that branch to get back to the original profile. Love that Need Profiles Create category.

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OK today is the Equinox. The sun came up in Toronto at 5.25 AM EDT - I know this because I was still awake. LOL

I went off to sleep

I woke up in time for the weekly family chat I have every friday.

My sister received her DNA kit this week from My Heritage. She swabbed her cheeks and sent it back in the mail. I am hoping that we will get her results before the end of July - fingers crossed.

And at this time of writing the sun went down at approx 9.30 PM EDT

So Toronto gets around 20 hours of Sunshine on the longest day of the year!!

Ciao for now.
by Robynne Lozier G2G6 Pilot (702k points)

I also found a National Geographic article dated today - 21 June 2019 - that says it has SNOWED in Yellowstone National Park!!!

20 hours of sun? That’s a long WikiTreeing day, for sure!
I could have used 20 hours sunshine today! It was cloudy and occasionally drippy and we needed to get the weeding done before being gone for a week.
Darn it - my maths is wrong.

Toronto got 16 hours of sunshine - not 20 hours. Sorry about that!!

I have always hated maths!!!

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Hello to all and thank you Pip for hosting, and I love the photo of your Mom, she looks very young for her age.  And thank you Dorothy for the Peaches and Cream day today.  AND...I see Eddie King is back.... Hi Eddie.  Let us know when the book is published.  I would love to read it.

I have had a very interesting week but not on Wikitree.  Last weekend we took a little trip to visit family in my home town.  I had an opportunity to meet with an aunt and 2 cousins that I had not seen in a very long time.  As a matter of fact the one cousin I had never met in person, we became acquainted through emails.  I was very excited to meet this lovely woman who shared the passion for genealogy.  I also picked the memories of my aunt and other cousin and did get some very interesting information from them.  I am in the process of doing research to connect them to Wikitree.

@SJ you asked if there were others who are waiting for the Connect-a-thon to do horizontal development.  No you are not.

Have a great weekend all!
by Nicole Duchesne G2G6 Pilot (768k points)
Niocle, getting to see relatives and ask those questions... there’s nothing like it for a genealogist. I hope you got some good stories.
I did, with the one cousin who is 89 years old, (I went to school with her daughter), she told me some stories that made my hair curl but the best one was that her mother dated my grandfather (after their spouses passed).  I actually had a picture of her mom and my grandfather.  I did not know that was her mother !!!!  She was very happy to see it.

Ditto to everyone here on this chat.

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