Cannot access history for 'merged from' profiles

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When a merge is completed on a profile, we can go to Changes Log of the 'Merged into' profile, select the 'Merged from' ID from the 'Merged' line.  Changes log is shown for the 'Merged from' profile.  Normally, we can select 'Edited the data' on the Merged line to view the 'data' as seen when the merge was done, ie the 'merged from' biography on the left and the 'redirect to merged into profile ID' on the right.  

On multiple profiles that were merged Jun 16, I cannot see the original data, therefore, I cannot verify that all the information was brought over to the 'merged into' profile, which I do on all merges that I propose.  On these profiles, I had submitted unresponsive manager forms, and was waiting for the response to be completed.

Jewel-1321 biography is seen

Jewell-1320 (has 2 Merged lines), Jewell-1329, Gravett-59 biography can not be seen

Note - I entered ONE profile below, but there are 3 profiles mentioned in this question with the same problem.
WikiTree profile: Bertha Jewell
in WikiTree Tech by Linda Peterson G2G6 Pilot (764k points)
retagged by Ellen Smith

In the profile you cite, the most recent entry is:

16:41: Paul Bech edited the data for Bertha E. (Gravett) Jewell (abt.1903-1987). (Merged Gravett-59 into Gravett-58: Clear duplicate.) [Thank Paul for this]

Click on "Gravett-59" in that entry to see the page history for Gravett-59. See https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Gravett-58&diff=86386734&oldid=54176284 to see what happened to Gravett-59 when the profiles were merged.

Ellen, as I said, I did as you said.  When you are on the Changes Log for the 'merged from' Gravett-59 profile and select the 'edited data', you should see the 'biography' with the 'redirect' on the right side, but it does not do that.

In my question, I have 3 profiles that have the same problem.  Only 1 profile seems to be working correctly where the redirect is seen on the right, so I am confused.

The entry I quoted from the changes log entry on Gravett-58 is the one that shows the merge of -59 into -58. It has a link to Gravett-58 that will take you to that profile's change log. Go to the Gravett-58 changes log, and find the entry for the edit that completed the merge. (it's usually the last entry, but in this case it isn't because this G2G is linked to Gravett-58.) Click on the "edited the data" link in that entry, and you will see https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Gravett-58&diff=86386734&oldid=54176284 , which shows the pieces of Gravett-58 that were not retained when the merge occurred. That's the entry that normally has a redirect on the right.

Ah, I'm slow today!!

That log entry on Gravett-59 is almost identical to the one on Gravett-58. That's not the way it's supposed to work.

This is a bug, and if it's happening on multiple profiles, it's a serious loss of data.
There is definitely something weird going on with merges.
I didn't know that you could view the changes log from the "Merged From" profile, so I'm glad for your post even though the problem sounds like it is persisting.

7 Answers

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Best answer

Gravett-58

Changes to Profile of Bertha (Gravett) Jewell
https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:NetworkFeed&who=Gravett-58

Privacy Level : Open
- - -

Gravett-59

Changes to Profile of Bertha (Gravett) Jewell
https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:NetworkFeed&who=Gravett-59

Privacy Level : Private with Public Biography and Family Tree

Before and when the merge was done, the Privacy Level of the profile Gravett-59 was not OPEN, I think that's why we cannot see the history.

 .

by E Martin G2G6 Pilot (115k points)
selected by Linda Peterson
After reviewing my notes on these 4 profiles. I was on the Trusted List for Jewell-1321, which was merged into Jewell-1319.   I was not on Trusted list for the other 3 profiles that were merged from, so maybe that is the reason.  I had submitted the Unresponsive Manager form for the other 3.
+3 votes

My experience has been that you can only access the changes from the last (should be the top) edit for a merged-away profile. Then you can go through the previous edits.

For some older merges, the changes may not be accessible.

edit: clarification, additional information

by Lindy Jones G2G6 Pilot (253k points)
+3 votes

I agree with you, Linda, there is something wrong with this merge
 
12:41: Paul Bech edited the data for Bertha E. (Gravett) Jewell (abt.1903-1987). (Merged Gravett-59 into Gravett-58: Clear duplicate.) [Thank Paul for this]

This edited the data  = Changed Information for Gravett-58 - Changes made by Paul Bech at 12:41, 16 June 2019.
https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Gravett-58&diff=86386734&oldid=54176284

12:41: Paul Bech edited the data for Bertha (Gravett) Jewell. (Merged Gravett-59 into Gravett-58) [Thank Paul for this]

This edited the data  = the profile https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Gravett-58
instead of Changed Information for Gravett-59
 ..
 

by E Martin G2G6 Pilot (115k points)

On the same day - 16 Jun 2019 - I merged ...
 
19:52: You edited the data for Joseph-Marie Blais (1753-1808). (Merged Blais-3227 into Blais-1995: Clear duplicate.)
 
19:52: You edited the data for Joseph Blais (1753-1808). (Merged Blais-3227 into Blais-1995)
 ..
and it is correct .....

In my question, I posted I have one of four correct, 3 are not correct. Selecting edited date brings up the profile not the changes pages.

When you access the Changes log for the current profile, you want to click on the WikiTreeID of the merged away profile. Then click on the edited the data link that is at the top of the log.

Lindy, have you personally tried to do that on any of the profiles that I said were a problem?  As I said initially in my question, that is exactly what I have done in all THREE profiles that I mentioned. I just tried it again.  Each of them do not show the changes, it shows the Profile of the new 'merged' profile.

The history is NOT available.
I had previously accessed the log for Gravett-59, but can't access it now.

I just accessed the logs for Blais-3227 and Jewell-1321 without any problem.

I couldn't access the log for Jewell-1320.

The Changes tab wasn't available for Jewell-1329.
+3 votes
I know I have seen people do it, looked but can not yet find a G2G post where this was done successfully and helped with a conflated (where two different people were merged into one) profile that needed to be untangled

Will look again
by Navarro Mariott G2G6 Pilot (165k points)
The merges are correct.  They are not conflated.  We should be able to see the previous biography, etc before the merge.  

I have worked with conflated profiles and got them separated recently, but that is not the problem with this profile.
No, I just meant I have seen people get in there somehow in such cases - so hoped someone who HAD gotten to those old changes from the merged away profile would chime in with what we are doing wrong - I tried to see who did what on a profile that had been merged just a few days before I saw this question and so I tried the same way and could not get to it
+3 votes
by E Martin G2G6 Pilot (115k points)
reshown by E Martin
Merged Jewell-1329 into Jewell-1314

Jewell-1314 : profile is not open
Jewell-1314 is open and is editable, as I look at it now.

If I look at changes Log, select Jewell-1329 from the Merge line, verify that Jewell-1329 is now in the URL so the Changes Log is for Jewell-1329, select the 'Edited the Data', the Jewell-1314 profile is shown opened up, but not the changes page from Jewell-1329, as it should be.
The Privacy Level for Jewell-1314 is Private with Public Biography and Family Tree

I am not on the Trusted List, I cannot edit the profile. I cannot see anything about changes.
+3 votes

Merged Jewell-1320 into Jewell-1315

Changes to Profile Jewell-1315 https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:NetworkFeed&who=Jewell-1315

Privacy Level : Open

12:37: Paul Bech edited the data for Thomas Jefferson Jewell (abt.1900-abt.1969). (Merged Jewell-1320 into Jewell-1315: Clear duplicate.) [Thank Paul for this]

- - -

Changes to Profile Jewell-1320 https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:NetworkFeed&who=Jewell-1320

Privacy Level : Private with Public Biography and Family Tree

We cannot see the Change Details (edited the data)

by E Martin G2G6 Pilot (115k points)
+3 votes

Merged Jewell-1321 into Jewell-1319

Changes to Profile Jewell-1319 https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:NetworkFeed&who=Jewell-1319

Privacy Level : Open

- - -

Changes to Profile Jewell-1321 https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:NetworkFeed&who=Jewell-1321

Privacy Level : Open

We can see all the Change Details (edited the data)

by E Martin G2G6 Pilot (115k points)

When the two profiles are Privacy Level = OPEN,
we can see the Change Details

Example : Merged Jewell-1321 into Jewell-1319

FROM : Change Details for Jewell-1321
https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Jewell-1321&diff=prev&oldid=86386776

TO : Change Details for Jewell-1319
https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Jewell-1319&diff=prev&oldid=86386777
 

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