Help citing a newspaper from the Netherlands

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Not being fluent in the Dutch language I could use some help with identifying which information should be used in citing the linked newspaper article. http://snv.courant.nu/issue/DH/1933-11-17/edition/null/page/1

so far (I think) I know:

Publisher (Uitgever) = D.J. Wuestman

Editor-in-chief? (Redactie Voorzitter) = B. Goosens

Title = Der Harderwijker

31e Jaargang No 90 = Volume 31 Issue 90

Publication place = Harderwijk, Gelderland

Am I missing anything important?

in Genealogy Help by Rob Ton G2G6 Pilot (291k points)

How cool is that!

Might you also want to include

Page number, column number, article title or section.

How you gained access; date of access.

Separate from Volume and Issue, is there a date?

What about location? (Here in the US, the paper title and publication location would be more important in the finding aid than the publisher or editor-in-chief).

The site ssems to display a header containing the newspaper title, date and page number. If you can't make out the date and page from the digital image of tne paper itself, you could append the site name, url etc. with, "citing '17 november 1933 | pagina 1 (1/16)'"

Thanks Gene... but the assistance I need is in making sure I have identified the right information for the citation, not the citation formatting itself. I'll add all the actual citation elements (access date, hosting site, etc.) when I format it on the profile with {{Template:EE Citation}}...

For example, should the president of the editorial board be equated to chief editor or is there someone else that fulfils that role with the president being more managerial? Under the title there is a list of "Bureau Te", with different locations - are those the 'reporters'?  Is Harderwijk the actual publication place or just a mailing address?

Regards,

Rob
While I don't know the article or content being cited, I've have included a reporter's name, but never the editors and/or publishers (excepting letters to and or from the editor and/or publisher, etc.).

Is there something about the content of this article that makes the identity of the editor or publisher particularly relevant?

Generally in citations, an editors name should be used when the author is not known - in this case I am not sure which of the numerous names might be the correct author or editor to cite. While I interpret B. Goosens as editor in chief, as stated in the question, the top left of the page says "alles wat de redactie betreft rechtstreeks te zenden aan D. J. Wuestman" which seems, to my interpretation of Google's translation, to mean that all editorial concerns should be sent to Wuestman, which would suggest he is the editor-in-chief. Or I could assume that because the entry I am interested in is at Elburg, that the author is A. van Bentum at the Elburg Bureau.

Depending on the citation styles in question, a publication place is recommended when the publication or place is not well known - if I have interpreted the publisher correctly, then I suspect my publication place is also correct.

My best guess on the citation, if I am interpreteing and translating everything correctly is:

D.J. Wuestman (ed.), "Burgerlijke Stand," Harderwijker (Gelderland), 17 November 1933, p. 6, col. 2, Elburg civil register; digital image, Streekarchivaat Noordwest-Veluwe (http://snv.courant.nu/issue/DH/1933-11-17/edition/null/page/6 : accessed 16 Jul. 2014).

Hi Rob,

This seems it might be a difference in styles.

Intending only to ground the cmment made earlier, link below is to Chicago Manual of Style Online, entry for "Article in Newspaper or popular magazine." 

A couple of examples are given where the author is identified. The editors also write, "If no author is identified, begin the citation with the article title."

http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/tools_citationguide.html (just over half way down the page.) 

You wrote, "Is Harderwijk the actual publication place or just a mailing address?"

I am not smart enought to know if it is a mailing address, but there is certainly a city, Harderwijk. There is a Wikipedia entry for the place, "Harderwijk" . In a listing of online "Netherlands Newpapers," it is given as a place location. 

Thanks Gene,

My studies have me jumping between citation styles so I have to look them up every time... Since Evidence Explained (the de facto standard here) is developed from Chicago style, I'll drop the editor and just go with the article title. I also ran across mention that prepositions in titles should be dropped in English, but not in other languages so the title should be given as "De Harderwijker".

The inclusion of publication province or state and a description (i.e. Elburg Civil Register) is based off an example that the moderators (Mills or her staff) gave on the Evidence Explained website so I'll keep them even though they are not detailed in CMoS. Final version I think I'll use is:

"Burgerlijke Stand," De Harderwijker (Gelderland), 17 November 1933, p. 6, col. 2, Elburg civil register; digital image, Streekarchivaat Noordwest-Veluwe (http://snv.courant.nu/issue/DH/1933-11-17/edition/null/page/6 : accessed 16 Jul. 2014).

Hi Rob,

Your citation looks really good to me. Nice work.

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I see in the link a whole page, of which specific article do you inquire?
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