Help wanted in connecting Kuntz-865 to the WikiTree

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My g-g-grandfather is Joseph Kuntz (Kuntz-865) and  his source records for his birth are not known to me. It seems he was rooted in Alsace or Bavaria before immigrating to Illinois about 1850. I can't make heads or tails of any records found on familysearch. His familysearch profile (9V4J-XXP) shows his birth as 16 July 1825 at Bayern, Germany, but with no source record and parents Michael Kuntz & Barbara Boch. Find A Grave (73851630) has his place of birth as France, which is not too specific. So, any help linking him up to the big tree would be kindly appreciated.
WikiTree profile: Joseph Kuntz
in Genealogy Help by Warren Kuntz G2G5 (5.3k points)

1 Answer

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My 3rd Great Grandfather Adam Kuntz (1813-1878) presented me with much the same problem. One thing I've learned in the last month is that Alsace-Lorraine were two separate places at the time of his birth...understanding the when and how Alsace was at one point Germany and another point France, is helpful to a point, but even knowing when and the how, if you don't know exactly the where he was born, getting the information can be extremely difficult if not impossible. I haven't been so lucky, but if you can get a copy of his immigration records that might have more information than you are currently finding. If someone could advise us both on how to obtain those, we might get further.

As to what the FAG Memorial has, they are more than likely going by what is on a census record...for example, in Adam's case, US Census records show that he was born in France, nothing else.

I just did a quick glance at Bayern, Germany on Google search...I think it would be helpful to you to try to learn the history, and in doing so you might be able to figure out how to find records that may be there. More than likely, the only records you might find are church records (i.e. Baptismal)
by T Counce G2G6 Mach 6 (63.0k points)
Thanks for taking some time to check things over. There are probably a lot of family tree builders that are working a similar problem. You're right about checking the geography and history leads. Since this is going back to the early 1800's I'm doubtful that DNA tests will be of much use either. Hopefully, with some effort and time, answers will be uncovered.

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