Notables August 2019

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Hear Ye, Hear Ye

If you are interested in people who are famous, notable, noted, significant, important, historic, heroic, or otherwise fascinating, then the Notables Project might be for you! 

The idea behind this post is for anyone who needs help with connecting Notables to the tree to post to this thread and ask for help, or if you want to tell us whom you have successfully connected up, or if you want to join the Notables Project and get a badge.

Besides checking out the Notables Project page, don't forget to take a look at the Notables List page, where you can find lists of Notables who have profiles which aren't yet connected to the main tree. (For ideas on way to connect unconnected people and branches, see the Hints and Tips on the Connectors Chat page.)

Please remember to concentrate on those Notables who have already passed (died), so that we can see their profiles. If you create a profile for a living Notable, that profile WILL GO UNLISTED and noone can see it except for the PM and anyone on the trusted list!

And remember - Notables should have a Wikipedia page at the very least to qualify. And they should be DEAD! If you manage a profile for any living notable, would you please replace any Notables categories on that profile with [[Category:Living Notables]]? That could clear out a lot of profiles that people can't work on from the various Notables categories, and also keep all the living notables in one place to make them easy to find, should the need arise.

Wikipedia has a list of those who died Last month. July 2019

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_in_2019#July

in The Tree House by Robynne Lozier G2G6 Pilot (962k points)
Thank you for the lists. I am new and only have a few so far in my tree as cousins: Jesse James, The Hatfields, Charles Goodnight, and Oliver Loving. Hope to find some more.

31 Answers

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I am in for the month.
by Anonymous Barnett G2G6 Pilot (466k points)
+11 votes
Working on the maternal line of Georg, Duke of Hohenberg
by Richard Shelley G2G6 Pilot (220k points)
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Yes, I'm in, Robynne.  I've been working on some of Australia's war correspondents who are Notable, for example, [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Schuler-1043 Phillip Schuler].  He would be one of the most overlooked Notables in recent history.  And a real happy / sad story.  Am also continuing to try to connect Australian Army Generals, Victoria Cross recipients and convicts who have notability stamped on their character.

by Kenneth Evans G2G6 Pilot (188k points)
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I have just posted a new profile for actress Maxine Stuart.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Shilivek-1

She has a wikipedia page but she was better known as being the best friend of writer Helene Hanff.

Maxine's birth name was Shilivek - but I have seen it written 2 ways - SHILIVEK and SHLIVEK.

In the census records it seems to be Shilivek, which is how I have used it.

Have not yet found a birth record.

Maxine is not connected yet!!

Can someone deternine which spelling is the correct one?

Thanks.
by Robynne Lozier G2G6 Pilot (962k points)
Never mind. I just found a record for the parents where the spelling is SHLIVEK. I have changed Maxine to that spelling.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Shlivek-1
That's a tough one - when the last one I had to do was "Smith"... or even "Prince" - sure, there's variant spellings, but 99% of them are the same. Now SHLIVEK!? Unless you're from that area, you probably don't have a clue what the common spelling is for that one. Glad you found a record that helped clear it up...
After some 12 to 13 hours of reasonably solid work, I was finally able to connect Maxine to some distant relative who was already connected.

Seeing as how it is like 3 AM, I dont know if this will go through today. We may need to wait another 24 hours. But that's OK.

At least I can feel very proud that I was able to make that connection and create all the new profiles myself.

I will come back and add in any siblings from the various census records tomorrow. Am too tired right now. LOL
I have also made 97 contributions. in the first 30 hours of the month of August. I better do 3 more so I can be assured of my 100 club badge before I go to bed!!  LOL
Just an update to state that Maxine's profile (along with with her ancestors) are now connected!!!!

She is just 18 degrees away from Ross Perot, go figure!!
Nice work! Congratulations!
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There has been a death in the extended Kennedy family - Saoirse Kennedy Hill, d: 01 Aug 2019 @22yrs (granddaughter of Robert F. Kennedy).

I think this might be her profile ...

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hill-9575
by N Gauthier G2G6 Pilot (159k points)
That is so sad!! To die so young, and clearly very suddenly as well. She suffered from Depression.

https://people.com/politics/saoirse-kennedy-hill-penned-essay-battle-with-depression/
There were more details on the news this past evening. She died at the Kennedy Compound of an apparent drug overdose. She has been struggling for years (in her young life). She had been sexually molested as a young teen and later said the worst thing she could have done was deny and suppress the incident. The incident contributed to her depression. This family has had tremendous sadness in their life experiences  and we really need to hold Saoirse her family and all young people no matter race, color, creed who experienced mental health issues in our positive intentions along with putting a focus on mental health issues for all in this country.
The profile has been opened and the profile manager has opened it up for adoption as well. If someone has an interest, please feel free. If no one takes it in a few days, I'll either adopt it or take it into the Notables project.
Have proposed a merge because of a duplicate.
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Currently working on a connection for science fiction author A.E. Van Vogt. Fascinating information about his family - I'll never be able to find the time to put it all in his family's profiles, but it's been interesting to research. Still no connection yet, but at some point I just need to stop researching and start putting in profiles. Otherwise I'll get into analysis paralysis and get nothing done.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Vogt-1423

by Scott Fulkerson G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)
Sadly, I'm still uncovering more and more family that doesn't appear on WikiTree at this time - so I can add another 100 profiles to him, but I don't think any of them will provide a connection. Guess I better get adding. I could always get lucky.
Still working on his family and his wife's family, but no connection yet. I have profiles going back to Russia, England, and Canada, but nothing that remotely looks like a connection yet.
Hallelujah!

Added tons of profiles, and finally found a connection going way back to the early 1800's with an ancestor straight down his maternal line. Of course this will connect all the profiles I made on his wife's family as well, so VERY happy to have this one connected once the links update tonight.
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I created a profile this week for Notable Swiss architect and sculpture, Bruno Weber (b. 1931 - d. 2011). Need help with connections - if anyone can add....

by Noma Eddings G2G4 (4.6k points)
If you can drop the link to his profile into the chat, I might take a look.
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When I read about RFK's granddaughter's death, I also learned that another of RFK's daughter had been dating someone who died in April 2019, so I created a notable profile for him at ...

Matthew Taylor Mellon, II

Forbes says he invested $2 million in cryptocurrency and turned it into $1 billion. I linked him to his distinguished maternal line of investment bankers (Drexels and Biddles) and created a notable profile for his paternal great-grandfather who was a founder of the Gulf Oil Corporation  ...

William Larimer Mellon

by N Gauthier G2G6 Pilot (159k points)
Nice work! Sounds like a nice find!
I added Richard Mellon Scaife (Scaife-189) and his mother Sarah Cordelia Mellon (Mellon-272), the niece of Andrew Mellon.
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A profile was created for Jeffrey Epstein who just died in jail. He was linked to a British woman and I made a profile for her father, Ludvik Hoch, who changed his name to Robert Maxwell and had a British publishing empire.

Both Robert Maxwell and his wife, Elisabeth Jeanne Meynard, have separate wikipedia entries. She developed an interest in genealogy and wrote her Ph.D. thesis on the writings of her French aristocratic ancestors. I have tried to link her to them, but other than her parents names, I have not been able to find her ancestors. So if anyone with knowledge of genealogy in France can help, it would be appreciated. Thanks

by N Gauthier G2G6 Pilot (159k points)
edited by N Gauthier
I have now found a French family tree that will allow me to take her line back but it will probably still need valid sourcing as I don't have access to records in France.
Consider making a post and asking the French Roots people to help. They are wizards at sourcing.
Thanks for the suggestion ... french_roots must be an obsolete category because it was automatically altered to just france.
I think the project is still valid - the tag may just be normalized for some reason. Try pinging the project leaders for help.
Nikki - I had the same thing happen with french_roots vs. french tags - must be something that project team requested so that they're not monitoring as many tags out there. I'm guessing they're still getting the notifications.
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I am not part of this project but have some unconnected notables on my watchlist.  I am especially keen to connect Martin-28671 (St. Therese of Lisieux) and Stein-1730 (Edith Stein) as I have tried to connect these two and have added a lot of family members but had no success in making a connection.  I would be very grateful for any help  with these two connections as in fact it would connect a whole lot more unconnected people.  I think the fact that Martin-28671 is French and Stein 1730 is German is adding to the difficulty, but maybe someone can help?  Thanks
by Christine Frost G2G6 Pilot (105k points)
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I have three unconnected notables from the same family group all literary achievements if anyone has a special place in their heart for authors: 

Fannie (Caldwell) Macauley Aka Frances Little

Cale Young Rice

Alice Hegan Rice

Question: so I updated the life section on the Wikipedia page for Frances Little and I was curious with some minor editing if I could reuse it for the biography on Wikitree? Would that count as plagiarizing myself? 

Life section

Found another literary notable, not connected and originally had no profile manager. 

Harriet "Carolyn Keene" Adams 

If you have heard of Nancy Drew you have her and her family to thank. 

by Kristin Anderson G2G6 Mach 2 (23.6k points)
edited by Kristin Anderson
That's a good question. I think it's OK to reuse something you edited, although there is the awkward question of whether or not (when you accepted an account on Wikipedia) that you may have agreed in their user agreement that all products of their site belong to them and not to you. Either way, I think it's fine to make some minor edit adjustments and bring it over. I'd just try not to bring over 100% of the biography, unless it's relatively small/short.

Hers seems short enough that I don't think it will cause issues. Some of these multi-page life sections on Wikipedia contributed to by dozens of individuals could become problematic if we just copy-paste the entire thing over.
How interesting - Wikipedia gives free license to copy and reuse their content, so they don't claim ownership (or responsibility) for content on their site. Guess it's not a problem to copy that section no matter who contributed. There you go. :)
Thanks for looking into that, her bio looked so sad when I found it that I couldn’t help adding to it, but then I was like what am I going to do for her wikitree bio. So that solves that problem.
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Just bringing this to your attention - I have only just heard this news.

The author - Toni Morrison - died last week. but her profile is NOT YET CONNECTED!!

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Wofford-497

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toni_Morrison

I just thought I would let you all know - and maybe encourage someone to try and connect her.
by Robynne Lozier G2G6 Pilot (962k points)

Don't forget Kary Mullis:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Mullis-646

Just started that one, so lots of room to grow.

I'm also investigating starting a profile for Silver Medalist Basil Heatley who just passed away a few weeks ago. Not sure who has an interest in him, but I've got a lot of his family investigated, and yet no clear connection yet.

I'll see what I can do to get a starter profile out there tomorrow.

There's information on Toni Morrison's husband at this link: https://www.earnthenecklace.com/harold-morrison-wiki/

He passed away in 2016, so he can have a profile.

Added the husband, and started work on her paternal g-grandfather Prince Morgan. We'll see if any of those profiles turn up something useful towards a connection.
Just saw where Mark Burch got Kary Mullis connected. Thanks Mark!!

Now that AE van Vogt and Kary Mullis are connected, I can help focus on Toni Morrison a bit more. :)
Added many more profiles to the pile - still no connection. There are additional avenues of research and if anyone wants to help, please feel free.
Added even more profiles, no connections. Continuing to research...
Added even more profiles - still no connections. I have at least one more line I can add at the moment but not hopeful there will be a connection. I believe there is over 115 profiles attached to her island now, but we may need 3-5 times that to find a good connection, or someone might even just spot one out of the clusters that have been added. Either way, I'm probably going to add the one line I've got and give it a break for a bit. I've neglected a lot of other areas while working on her and it's about time to set her aside for a little bit. After that, I'll get back to her.
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Does it count as a Notable if you type in a name on wikipedia and it redirects you to a wikipedia article about an event ?

I created the line for 2 ANGLIN brothers who were part of the only escape from Alcatraz Prison ...

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Anglin-721
by N Gauthier G2G6 Pilot (159k points)

Well... that's a bit of a gray area. I've seen some that I would jump at (good example, lots of famous bands have Wikipedia pages, but the individual musicians often do not - and it seems logical that if you were part of a band that was a huge hit, you'd qualify), but this one is more gray than all of that.

I guess the best thing would be to present a case for their inclusion and we'd go from there. If you think that their escape was the only thing that made them Notable, then we'd have to determine if they meet the criteria.

This question might help out a bit:

https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/874588/what-is-a-notable

Thanks for letting me know. And no I will not argue the case to get them accepted as Wikitree Notable.
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It will take quite some time before enough of the "Can you help connect...?" threads get cleared for me to launch another one, but I am already plotting, and what I'd like to do is put up a list of unconnected Governors of Alaska. I haven't checked through the whole list yet, but it seems to be complete from the time Alaska was redesignated as a "District" in 1884 on. The people who are (mostly) missing from WikiTree are the people who were Commanders of the Department of Alaska from 1867 to 1884. Of the 20 people who served in that role, only 4 have WikiTree profiles.

So if you like creating profiles from Wikipedia articles (and especially if you're good at finding real sources for those people), there are 16 Commanders who have yet to be commemorated here.

If you like connecting people, then helping to finish off previous "Can you help connect...?" threads can get us started on Commanders and Governors of Alaska that much sooner.

by Greg Slade G2G6 Pilot (461k points)
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I created and connected:

Nuremberg Judge Telford Taylor.  Taylor-60119

Author Edward Bellamy, cousin of Francis Bellamy the pledge of allegiance dude.  Bellamy-1818

Herman Welker, Idaho Senator  Welker-251

Jesse Frank Waits, almost famous Spanish teacher from Los Angeles who taught his son to sing ;-)   Waits-401
by Mark Burch G2G6 Pilot (146k points)
Very nice, Mark. Thanks!
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So I'm still working on Toni Morrison's family. I did a bit of work on a couple of her family lines and added as many aunts and uncles as I could find (might be a few still to add, so I'll probably go back and review a bit later) but already moving on to parallel lines - cousins and beyond. The research goes on, so hopefully something will look promising soon. If anyone wants to assist, please feel free.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Wofford-497

by Scott Fulkerson G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)
See above - lots of profiles added to her tree - no connections. Any help would be more than welcome.
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Hi, I would like to join you group to write add sources for some notable ancestors. Col. Timothy Church (Church-1738) was a Vermont Sufferer, who defied Gov. Chittenden and Ethan Allen at the request of NY Gov. George Clinton for NY Cumberland County, remain a New York. He was jailed and redress was sent to the 2nd continental congress.
by Nathan Pyles G2G3 (3.2k points)
Welcome to the Notables Team, Nathan!
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I'm not sure if I'm doing this right so we'll see. I guess my notable person is my maternal 2nd great grandfather, Joseph Haynesworth Earle. 

Terrie Schmidt blush

by Terrie Schmidt G2G Crew (470 points)
Hi Terrie! Great to have you participating!

If you post the WikiTree ID or full address link for the profile, it's easier for us to get a good look at it. If I get the chance, I'll try to look him up. Thanks!
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Working to connect French writer Albert Camus through his uncle Jean-Baptiste. I have a quite solid path to Justine Boucaumont, still about ten profiles to check and add, hope to finish in time before the end of the monthwink.

by Bernard Vatant G2G6 Mach 7 (70.1k points)
Wish I could be of more assistance. I have a hard enough time deciphering USA genealogical sources, much less French where i am severely hampered by the language barrier. Good luck!

Thanks Scott. Things are going slowly but steadily, late summer harvests permittting. Today I was busy picking redcurrants in the mountain. cheeky

Connection achieved, will show on the profile by tomorrow morning.

This was a bit long, but smooth road. 

My next challenge is Joseph Fourier, created ... in 2009, and let down by his PM (he had no activity since, beyond creating the profile).

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Explorer Louis Antoine de Bougainville will show as connected when the system updates.

by Greg Lavoie G2G6 Pilot (328k points)
Very cool - I added the Notables sticker and was curious as to what he was famous for exploring?

So I had to look... first Frenchman to had circumnavigated the globe. Wow - that's pretty interesting.

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