SinceWikiTree only goes 30 generations. Then how does one add the parents of the 30th generation to your tree?

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in WikiTree Help by Norman Walters G2G3 (3.5k points)

The Relationship Finder function is currently limited to 30 generations, not the WikiTree itself.

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This is the issue of why I have a problem with WikiTree.  It has been proven on other sites that Alexander the Great and Charlemagne are my ancestors.  Based on this policy of 30 generations restriction, I will NEVER be able to insert them in my Family Tree on WikiTree, that is correct, right?   The reason that I know that these two are related is that I am related to 22 of the signers of the Magna Carte, then once that is established, it makes it much easier to go beyond the bounds of WikiTree.  Question is, when will WikiTree ever do away with the 30 generation restriction?   If most of my tree has that restriction, why is it that it seems that those, who are in authority with WikiTree; doesn't seem to care?  I joined WikiTree to have a totally complete Family Tree, now I find out that it may in all probability never happen. Please, understand that I am not trying to cause problems, I have worked on this for years and when I saw that WikiTree was to be the family trees of the future, I jumped on it, only to find that it may never meet my desires. Doesn't that make sense to all of WikiTree?

Norman, let's read again what Lindy wrote: the Relationship finder is restricted to 30 generations. So you will not be able to find your 32nd cousin 25 times removed. The WikiTree itself is NOT restricted, so you can enter your genealogy, as long as it is AD.

It has not in fact been "proven" that Alexander the Great is anyone's ancestor, much less yours; there is no reliably documented European genealogy that goes back further than the late 6th century AD.
I can only make 10 generations?

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As Lindy has explained, the Relationship Finder is restricted to 30 generations, NOT Wikitree itself.

Wikitree's only restriction is that it cannot go back into the BC (or BCE) era.
by Robynne Lozier G2G Astronaut (1.3m points)
selected by Gillian Causier
opps mistake

. John is the son of Henry Plantagenet [confident]
2. Henry II is the son of Geoffrey (Anjou) d'Anjou [confident]
3. Geoffrey V is the son of Fulk (Anjou) d'Anjou [unknown confidence]
4. Foulques V is the son of Foulques (Anjou) d'Anjou [unknown confidence]
5. Fulk IV is the son of Geoffrey (Perche) de Château-Landon [unknown confidence]
6. Geoffrey II is the son of Beatrice Mâcon [unknown confidence]
7. Beatrice is the daughter of Ermentrude (Roucy) de Reims [unknown confidence]
8. Ermentrude is the daughter of Alberade (Reginar) de Reims [unknown confidence]
9. Alberade is the daughter of Gerberga (Liudolfing) von Sachsen [confident]
10. Gerberge is the daughter of Heinrich (Liudolfing) Deutschland [confident]
11. Heinrich I is the son of Otto (Liudolfing) von Sachsen [unknown confidence]
12. Otto I is the son of Oda Billung (Billung) Liudolfing [unknown confidence]
13. Oda is the daughter of Adelais (Carolingian) des Francs [uncertain]
14. Aeda is the daughter of Carloman Carolingian [unknown confidence]

what I tried to show that you can only show up 30 generations in one go but you can break it up. And using dynamic tree you can go as far back on your ancestral lines that are here on wikitree. 

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Norman, where did you see a policy that the site only supports 30 generations?  (I haven't come close to getting that far back, so wouldn't be affected any time soon, but I've never seen that restriction.)  The only restriction I'm aware of is that the site doesn't handle BC dates.
by Dennis Barton G2G6 Pilot (556k points)
That is what I was always under the impression of - We are only restricted by the date - Must all be Common Era (AD)
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And let's not forget the constriction of adequate sourcing. There is no accepted descent from Alexander the Great to anybody living today.
by Helmut Jungschaffer G2G6 Pilot (604k points)
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1. Norman is the son of Howard Walters [unknown confidence]
2. Howard is the son of Aquilla Martin Walters DNA confirmed
3. Q is the son of Jedediah Felin Walters [unknown confidence]
4. Jed is the son of Aquilla Martin Walters [unknown confidence]
5. Quillar is the son of Susanna (Ashcraft) Walters [unknown confidence]
6. Susanna is the daughter of Jediah Ashcraft [unknown confidence]
7. Jediah is the son of Daniel Ashcraft [confident]
8. Daniel is the son of Mary Burrows [confident]
9. Mary is the daughter of John Burrows Sr. [confident]
10. John is the son of Robert Burrows [confident]
11. Robert is the son of George Burroughs [confident]
12. George is the son of Bridget (Higham) French [confident]
13. Bridget is the daughter of Phyllis (Waldegrave) Heigham [confident]
14. Phyllis is the daughter of George Waldegrave Esq. [confident]
15. George is the son of Margery (Wentworth) Waldegrave [confident]
16. Margery is the daughter of Elizabeth (Howard) Wentworth [confident]
17. Elizabeth is the daughter of Henry Howard [unknown confidence]
18. Henry is the son of John Howard [unknown confidence]
19. John is the son of Robert Howard [unknown confidence]
20. Robert is the son of John Howard [unknown confidence]
21. John II is the son of Joan (Cornwall) Howard [unknown confidence]
22. Joan is the daughter of Richard (Plantagenet) of Cornwall [unknown confidence]
23. Richard is the son of Richard (Plantagenet) of England [confident]
24. Richard is the son of John (Plantagenet) of England [confident]

by Living Anonymous G2G6 Mach 3 (36.0k points)
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The African-American members of Wikitree, due to slavery, can't go back much past 1860 and our Jewish members are similarly short-treed because the Nazis destroyed most of the records of European Jewry.
by Eddie King G2G6 Pilot (699k points)

Indeed, wars often lead to the destruction of buildings that house records.  People are often displaced in large numbers and they are separated from personal records.

Just last week, in one of Eddie's other posts, there was a reply that Union troops burned a southern courthouse during the Civil War creating a brick wall for everyone who has ancestors from that county.

And when one group tries to destroy another group, in addition to killing or displacing its members, extra efforts are taken to destroy their culture and history.  In the same way, some Egyptian pharaohs smashed the reliefs of previous pharaohs who they wanted to "erase" from history.

As the Jews had their records destroyed by the Nazis, it presents a huge brick wall to their descendants the same as many African-Americans with the slavery wall.

Another group that saw their records smashed are the Russians.  Prior to the communist revolution, most records were kept in the churches.  The atheist Communists blew up the churches and burned records across the whole of the Soviet Union.  Millions of records were burned and there is now a huge historical void in Eastern Europe.

What the Communists didn't burn was often burned by families themselves.  Sadly, under Lenninist and Stalinst rule, genealogical records could earn you a bullet in a pit outside of town or get you sent to a sure death in the Siberian gulags.  Finding records today is difficult, more so if the family had any ties to nobility.  Records in Poland and Ukraine suffered similar fates with the added hurdle that many cities in those countries were totally destroyed in World War II.  The Germans invaded going east, and a year or two later, the Soviets invaded heading west.  In some cities, almost every building was destroyed.

War is bad for genealogy.  Genocide, even worse.

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