Want to share a whole DIFFERENT TYPE of citizenship record

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I am used to finding ship manifests for immigration records and declarations of intent and petitions for naturalized United States citizenship.  I have never before seen one like this, which I found in the "immigration" category on ancestry:

You can see it full size HERE.

in Genealogy Help by Gaile Connolly G2G6 Pilot (873k points)
If you look a little more, there's a form, same guy apparently , dated a few days later , where citizenship is denied, then an index card in 1907, apparently granting.
Wow, I didn't find those - they are EXACTLY what I need - I found census records that say he became a citizen in 1907, but wasn't able to find any evidence of it - now, thanx to you, I'll have it.  You are absolutely the greatest!!!
I saw the docs on Ancestry. Didn't copy or download. Wasn't sure it was your guy.
I don't know why I missed those before, but I just got them now - they are perfect.  I can understand why you weren't sure it was the right guy - his name was Adolph Dietch to begin with, later became Alexander, but Deutsch is an error (welcome to the world of Eastern European and/or Jewish immigrants).
My boss the rabbi says Russian Jews did not have surnames like Westerners until about 1920 onward when the Communist Party settled in and started their "census" taking and everyone had to choose a surname for their family. Prior to that time you would have to search for Russian Jews as like Moishe ben Isak and this was further followed by perhaps a village name or occupation. Essentially Moishe son of Isak of Grodno or Moishe son of Isak the baker.

You know this. I post it for confused newbies doing research.
THANX, Eddie.  Actually, I did *not* know this - it's apparently true for Russia, but not so for at least some of the other countries, even the ones that were part of the Russian Empire.  I know families in places like Lithuania, Poland, and Ukraine (maybe a few others, too) did have last names.  The problems there were that during different periods (on again/off again between roughly 1850 and 1940) Jewish BMD were not permitted to be legally registered, so the only records during those times were secretly kept by churches - that's why you'll sometimes see records called baptisms for Jews, who - of course - were not baptized in any church!

Germany was a different situation entirely.  I don't remember the date - it's been a few years since I worked on German Jewish profiles, but I think it was mid-1800s when German law required last names.  Prior to that, they had been recorded with patronymics - didn't include ben/bat (meaning son/daughter of) but just used father's first name as their last name - what a colossal mess - every generation had a different last name and you could only build a tree by looking at father's first name going all the way back.
The Foundation for Eastern European Family History Studies  says it can assist in locating records recently released by Russia for genealogical research. It charges 88 US Dollars per name. No guarantees. Dunno how good or honest FEEHS is but I'd say use a credit card and if FEEHS didn't find anything, call your card company to have the debit taken off

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