Eddie King is a Wonderful WikiTreer, who is going to cost me money to buy a kilt and bagpipes

+26 votes

I don't know how he manages to dig this obscure stuff up, but he just sent me THIS LINK that reminds me of an ancestry ad.

You know, the one that starts with a guy jumping around in knee socks, shorts, suspenders with embroidered flowers, and a cute little pointed cap, bragging about his Swiss heritage … then he joins ancestry and gets a "hint" and the next scene has him wearing a kilt and learning to play the bagpipes.

According to ftdna, I am 87% Ashkenazi and just two days ago I told Melanie Paul that I can't possibly be related to her Scottish Gordon ancestors, much as I would love to be her relative … and she's on the connection finder now and shows as 42 degrees from me (farther even than the 30-something I am from almost everyone else), but Eddie's "hint" suggests that I really might be Scottish - pass some of them thar scones, please, cousin Melanie!

Now, I can't wait to find out how Eddie and I are related … to rub shoulders with such greatness would be amazing … nah, it'll never happen - my shoulders are about a foot too low to rub his!!!

WikiTree profile: Eddie King
in Appreciation by Gaile Connolly G2G6 Pilot (779k points)

I think it’s time for a Robert Burns Dinner for all:

Address to a Haggis

Good luck to you and your honest, plump face,
Great chieftain of the sausage race!
Above them all you take your place,
Stomach, tripe, or intestines:
Well are you worthy of a grace
As long as my arm. 

The groaning trencher there you fill,
Your buttocks like a distant hill,
Your pin would help to mend a mill
In time of need,
While through your pores the dews distill
Like amber bead.

His knife see rustic Labour wipe,
And cut you up with ready slight,
Trenching your gushing entrails bright,
Like any ditch;
And then, O what a glorious sight,
Warm steaming, rich!

Then spoon for spoon, the stretch and strive:
Devil take the hindmost, on they drive,
Till all their well swollen bellies by-and-by
Are bent like drums;
Then old head of the table, most like to burst, 
'The grace!' hums.

Is there that over his French ragout,
Or olio that would sicken a sow,
Or fricassee would make her vomit
With perfect disgust,
Looks down with sneering, scornful view
On such a dinner?

Poor devil! see him over his trash,
As feeble as a withered rush,
His thin legs a good whip-lash,
His fist a nut;
Through bloody flood or field to dash,
O how unfit.

But mark the Rustic, haggis-fed,
The trembling earth resounds his tread,
Clap in his ample fist a blade,
He'll make it whistle;
And legs, and arms, and heads will cut off
Like the heads of thistles.

You powers, who make mankind your care,
And dish them out their bill of fare,
Old Scotland wants no watery stuff,
That splashes in small wooden dishes;
But if you wish her grateful prayer, 
Give her [Scotland] a Haggis!

Aye, ‘it’s good eatin’! (And that’s a story in itself!)

9 Answers

+18 votes
Best answer
1. I can dig up this stuff because I have a criminal mind.

2. I am reading a book on Scottish history.

3. I can't find a Russian variation of "Gordon" that leads to your mysterious ancestors.

4. Scottish Gordons went to Russia.

5. As early as the 12th century, the Jews in Scotland began co-mingling marriage wise with Gaelic Scots.

A criminal mind concludes, Gaile must begin eating haggis. I'll send you a recipe.
by Eddie King G2G6 Pilot (529k points)
selected by Maggie N.

In his autobiographical Two Worlds: An Edinburgh Jewish Childhood the eminent Scottish-Jewish scholar David Daiches wrote that there are grounds for asserting that Scotland is the only European country with no history of the state persecution of Jews.

In the Middle Ages, much of Scotland's trade was with Continental Europe, the wool of the Border abbeys being the country's main export to Flanders and the Low Countries. Scottish merchants from Aberdeen and Dundee had close trading links to Baltic ports in Poland and Lithuania. It is possible therefore that Jews may have come to Scotland to do business with their Scottish counterparts, although no direct evidence of this exists.

omigosh - I'm starting to dance a jig … oops, wrong country!  Quick - someone tell me how I'm supposed to be dancing, because dance I must, now!
You two are hilarious.

 Ceilidh dancing has derived from the Old Time dances and couple dances that found their way onto the Scottish dance floor in the 19th century. The names of many of the common Ceilidh dances may well be familiar to you, such as The Dashing White Sergeant and The Gay Gordons

Jig is probably more used for the Irish.  A reel, or the Highland fling, now .. .. cheeky

(I can just see you dancing over those swords, with your kilt flying out behind you!)

Hmmm … the Gay Gordons would probably have meant something very different then from what it would now.  See the photo of my ancestor that I found in my comment to Cheryl's answer here.

I see you now Gaile.

Image result for image of the highland fling

Oh, Cheryl, that is very flattering to me.  You can't even see the resemblance to my ancestor below.  You are sooooooo sweet!


Melanie, is that the Gordon tartan?  I hope so because I love it - my favorite colors are blue, green, and anything in between.

Gaile, I thought that WAS you in the picture?

Yep .. that is a Gordon tartan.  smiley  (I found it on Wikitree and have it on my great-grandmother's profile.)

+19 votes

Didn't I tell you if we went back far enough .. .. ..!  I'd far rather be related to you than to all the crowned heads of Europe, past and present.  heart

As for Eddie .. if I could, I'd buy him a new hat!  (Even if it is red.  cheeky

by Melanie Paul G2G6 Pilot (253k points)
+17 votes

Gaile, what kind of outfit are you going to wear now. I would like to see pictures of you in a kilt. Thank you for my daily laugh, and for Eddie who will have you in a Kimono, a sarafan, a mantilla or playing a banjo.

Thank you Eddie for keeping us all on our toes.

Image result for image of a woman in a kilt

by Cheryl Hess G2G Astronaut (1.5m points)

Cheryl,  Sorry, but I don't have any recent photos of myself dancing in Scottish outfit - this discovery is too new, but I did find a photo of my ancestor (note the red hair that I inherited from him)

The only thing is can say is Oh My!

I am laughing so hard, I cannot speak.

I hope he has a bikini on.
He doesn't have a sporran !
Hey ! That's a MacGregor tartan !
Eddie - watch yer mouth, boyfriend!  That's my exalted ancestor you're talking about!!!

PS  What the xxxx does that word mean anyhow?
Eddie, you didn't see the sporran fly off?
I must say that styles certainly have changed - his yarmulke is much fuller than nowadays and his tallit is certainly not what I think of as traditional style, plus it's missing the tsitsis.  Then again, maybe I just don't understand it all because I'm not pre-1700 certified - ya think?
Back in the olden days, the sporran was a pouch that hung on a belt and was filled with herbs and centered over the guy's family jewels, & according to Gaelic myth, it's purpose was to make the guy's "equipment" more potent.
Oh my!  Well that ancestor looks plenty potent already!  Now I'll have to change the spelling of my name to Gael, I suppose.  Ooh, I am really getting into being Scottish!

Gael, this is another one of those nights. laugh

yes it is, Cheryl, and boy did I need it after having a few especially brutal days.  THANX for your part in the comic relief!  G'nite now.
Good night, my friend. We need these days!

OMG, Gaile, this GIF is just too much, even for this very Scottish lass.laugh

Wassamatta Emma - you don't like my ancestor's picture???  Eddie said I could be Scottish and I found him on the internet and he has red hair just like I do, so he MUST be my ancestor!!!

Hey - I just realized something - now you're my cousin - I'm honored and thrilled!!!!  plus, you'd better not insult that guy - this makes him your ancestor, too.  We're gonna have to find out his name so we can make his profile.

Ahem, cough. You do realize that even if we're both Scottish, that in no way means we share all the same Scottish ancestors? Besides, this lad's got the wrong clan tartan so I'm not claiming himwink

+16 votes

This is one of the very best Wonderful Wikitreer accolades EVER !!!!   You guys made me smile and laugh.  We all knew Eddie was a guru (at a lot of things) but this just proves it.  WAY TO GO EDDIE WITH THE CRIMINAL MIND !

by Nicole Duchesne G2G6 Pilot (844k points)
+10 votes

Bravo Extraordinaire Eddie King !!!! lol 

by Gerald Baraboo G2G6 Pilot (937k points)
+9 votes
I love, love, love this post. Welcome to the Scottish fold, Gaile. Eddie is so awesome and where the finds his obscure knowledge just blows me away. Hugs and kisses Eddie. I haven't sent those your way in a good while.
by Emma MacBeath G2G6 Pilot (662k points)
+7 votes

You all are such a riot. I have been laughing non-stop reading your antics..........cool

by Maggie N. G2G6 Pilot (808k points)

waddaya mean "antics", Maggie?  This is serious genealogy that's happening here and it has historic significance in several different areas 

  1. That photo of my ancestor must have been taken in the 1600's because that's when Eddie's research suggests my Scottish ancestor climbed into my tree.  His animated gif predates (by a few hundred years) the previously earliest known photograph in the world, so it is making history for that, as well as for computer animation.
  2.  Eddie and Melanie have already identified a transcription error in his photo.  Eddie said his tartan is MacGregor and Melanie provided an image of the correct Gordon (or should it be MacGordon now?) tartan.
  3. His yarmulke style is very old fashioned - it's nothing like the more streamlined version in current use, plus his tallit is nothing like those of today and doesn't even have any tsitsits.
  4. I am probably going to end up having to cram to try to pass the pre-1700 certification when I get up to working on him.
C'mon, girlfriend - it's not nice to make fun of my ancestor - and I *KNOW* for absolutely sure that he is really my ancestor because I found him on the internet and he has red hair just like I do.  Seriously now, are you questioning my sources?
Nein, mein liebchen, naught MacGordon. The Gordon is from the village Gordon in Berwickshire, seat of the Setons who were the Lords Huntly.

You see, when George de Dunbar , Earl of March, defected to the English, his lands were given to a faithful young laddie named Adam de Gordon who was much liked by the Bruce. But poor Adam had only one son and one daughter. Sonny John died young and daughter Elizabeth married Alexander Seton, a right bonnie knight  who became Laird of Gordon by right of his wife . Their son was much liked by James II and acquired most of Strathbogie and became the 1st Earl of Huntly, taking the surname Gordon, as there were Setons not much liked and he dinna care to have congress with that ilk.

Now you go on a couple centuries. Here's the juicy stuff ! There was a Catholic Cardinal David Beaton who fathered many children. Yeah ! Anyhow, one of his descendants married a Gordon and presto there was Catherine Gordon , rich heiress, who married Mad Jack Byron and yep, their bonnie laddie was George Gordon, Lord Byron who wrote many beautiful poems and kissed his sister on the mouth and other parts of her body.
Oh my goodness!  You're giving me mega history lessons now and I'm amazed … no, I've said that too many times before about the breadth of your knowledge … I'm absolutely astonished by all that.

I guess with the Catholic cardinal and Lord Byron, I now have a plethora of misogynists (at best) among my ancestors.
People should not give me books to read. Very bad for Eddie to read books. Very bad.
+7 votes

Haggis ! Did ya know  it's illegal in the USA ! !

by Eddie King G2G6 Pilot (529k points)
edited by Eddie King
Illegal in the USA? What??!!
Ya mean now, in addition to finding his name so I can add his profile and connect myself to him, I'm gonna have to lobby Congress to pass a law to make my newly discovered heritage food legal?
+6 votes

Haggis is like a crumbly sausage, with a coarse oaty texture and a warming peppery flavour. It’s most commonly served with neeps (mashed turnip) and tatties (mashed potato) and washed down with a wee dram of your favourite whisky. Haggis is a versatile ingredient – it can be used to make a stuffing for poultry and game, or fried up for breakfast like crumbled black pudding.

by Eddie King G2G6 Pilot (529k points)

You can also have it battered and deep-fried.

But in Scotland they can do that with anything.


I think deep-fried Mars bars started in the US south. They fry everything down there.

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