Welch Name Study Quarterly

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Some of the discussion on last weekend's chat revealed that several of us have Welch ancestors in common. (That's "Welch" as in the last name, not as in having ancestors who came from Wales, although as it happens, I have both Welch and Welsh ancestors, but they're not the same people.) That prompted me to start putting together a Free-Space page for a One Name Study on Welch families.

So if you have Welches in your family tree, please check out the page and see what you can add.

Greg

P.S. And, before you ask, yes, Thomas Bramwell Welch, who invented Welch's grape juice, is on WikiTree.

WikiTree profile: Space:Welch_Name_Study
in Requests for Project Volunteers by Greg Slade G2G6 Pilot (397k points)
edited by Greg Slade
Arrrrgh! You got me! I did initially read it wrong and have Welsh ancestors, not Welch.
To answer another question, the famous Racquel married James Welch, it's not her maiden name, and not much is public about James.  To add to the search difficulties, there's another James Welch, about the same age, who was a successful Native American writer.
My paternal line is Welch. We are from Louisville, KY but now reside all over the US. Prior to my GGG-Grandfather, Anthony (Tony) Welch we have hit a brick wall on his parents. But we have our family on the tree.
I have family from VA/WV that are Welch with variations of Welsh that don’t seem to make sense as to why it changed. My GGM was Maggie Mae Welch from WV.

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Do you treat it as a variant of Walsh/Welsh? I have one Irish-born brick wall ancestor whose children's death certificates contain all three spellings.
by Rob Judd G2G6 Mach 9 (92.7k points)

I'm aware that Welch, like many surnames, comes in all kinds of spelling variants. So far, I'm only tracking people who are actually listed in the records as "Welch" (although I've already found one "Welch" whose father was listed as a "Walsh"). 

To do the job properly, I suppose the study should be expanded to include spelling variants, along with some research into the interrelationships between them. But that seems too much like work for me. wink But I should say that I'm not at all averse to letting somebody else take the reins and manage the study. The only reason I started it is because nobody else had. Eventually, I'd like to see One Name Studies for all of the family names of my great-great grandparents, but there is no way I'm going to take on managing 16 One Name Studies! surprise

My 3xgreat grandfather used Welch and his descendants have that name. His brother used Whelch, and they have that variation. I know through DNA matching. So that variant would be useful to include. I understand the name means foreign and Walsh is another variant.

That's OK, Greg - you won't have to take on 16 ONSs.  If you review the Project page, it says you are allowed a maximum of 7 anyway. *grin*

Ha! I couldn't even handle 7!
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Greg, I added the 'What Links Here' to the page, so you can see what profiles are linked to the Welch study.  I added one step-grandmother that I have no parents for.
by Linda Peterson G2G6 Pilot (419k points)

Actually, Linda, those profiles are already listed in Category:Welch Name Study. The template automatically adds that category.

The One Name Study page doesn't have them.  That is where I went to see the information that you were looking for.  I have seen that link on the other Space Pages.  If you don't want it, remove it.  I never go to the Category Pages, since the One Name and other pages have more information usually.  I didn't look to see if a category was added
Huh. Good point. I'm so obsessive about categories that I keep forgetting that not everybody is as into them as I am, and it never even occurred to me that I should link to the category from the text. Fixed now. Thank you for pointing that out.
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My mother is descended from the pioneer Welch family who arrived in New Zealand in January 1840. She spent 50 years researching this family. I have her family trees on multiple scrolls. But it is a  daunting prospect to enter all of this. With hundreds of descendants I am hoping others are on here to share the task.
by Margaret Allison G2G6 Mach 1 (15.3k points)

That's awesome that you have all that information. And don't be afraid to ask for help. WikiTreers are a very helpful bunch. Although having it all on paper might make it hard to get it to other people to help out. If you have a scanner, you might try scanning one sheet at a time, and emailing the scans to people who are willing to enter them for you. If you don't have a scanner, you might want to check with the New Zealand Project to see if anyone in the project lives close enough to you that you could meet up.

As I confirm DNA matches, I have added those descendants and their families to my tree. So I have a lot of it in my tree of 4,5000 people. But I'm in the process of moving my tree from Family Tree Builder, which sources to persons, to Legacy which sources to events. So I will make smaller GEDCOMs to bring over to WikiTree once I have checked the data. Maybe one line at a time!
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I've added some charts to the Welch Name Study page to keep track of various measures. (I too many projects on the go, so I've decided to make updates to each one once per quarter. The next update for the Welch Name Study is planned for the beginning of January. We'll see if I'm that organised.)

Welches on WikiTree - Progress - November 2019

The number of profiles on WikiTree with a Last Name At Birth of Welch has risen over the past two months that I've been keeping track. In September, there were 7,630 Welches on WikiTree, and now we're up to 7,821.

by Greg Slade G2G6 Pilot (397k points)
edited by Greg Slade

Welches on WikiTree - Adding Profiles - November 2019

We now have WikiTree profiles for 12 out of the 59 deceased Welches listed on ThePeerage.com (20.3%), and for 5 out of the 45 deceased Notable Welches listed on Wikipedia (11.1%).

Welches on WikiTree - Sourcing Profiles - November 2019For the purposes of tracking sourcing, I am not including links to those people's entries on ThePeerage.com or Wikipedia as "sources", and am only measuring the proportion of those profiles which have some other source (BMD, census, etc.). By that measure, 5 out of 59 deceased Welches from ThePeerage.com (8.5%) have profiles on WikiTree with at least one other source, and 2 out of 45 deceased Notable Welches from Wikipedia (4.4%) have profiles with at least one other source. 

Welches on WikiTree - Connecting Profiles - November 2019

Currently, 10 out of 59 deceased Welches from ThePeerage.com (17%) have profiles which are connected to the main tree on WikiTree, and 1 out of 45 deceased Notable Welches from Wikipedia (2.2%) have profiles which are connected. Overall, 6,894 out of 7,821 Welches on WikiTree (88.2%) are connected to the main tree, which is slightly better than the overall percentage of profiles on WikiTree which are connected to the main tree. 

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I've updated the charts on the Welch Name Study page again. And this time, I went ahead and changed the name of this thread to "Welch Name Study Quarterly".

Happily, the number of profiles on WikiTree with a Last Name At Birth of Welch has continued to rise, and the number of sourced and connected Welch profiles have also been rising in parallel.

Welches on WikiTree - Adding Profiles - January 2020Progress in adding Welches from WikiTree doesn't look like we've made much progress, but we actually have added a bunch more. The percentage would look higher if I hadn't also found 11 more Welches on Wikipedia who aren't listed on the Welch (surname) page.

by Greg Slade G2G6 Pilot (397k points)

Welches on WikiTree - Progress in Sourcing Profiles - January 2020The percentage of Welches on WikiTree which are considered as "Sourced" has remained in a narrow range between 94.4% and 94.7% since September. On the one hand, quite a number of the profiles with the {{Unsourced}} template on them are unlisted, which, in my mind, is a bit unfair, since privacy regulations make it very hard to source most people while they're still alive. (Unless they hit the news or something.) On the other hand, there are probably lots of unsourced Welch profiles on WikiTree which don't have any sources, but don't have the template, either, so even though I track those numbers, they're probably not to be trusted.

The percentage of Welches on Wikipedia (in other words, notable Welches) and on ThePeerage.com which are considered as "sourced" has risen this quarter, as we have been able to add more sources. I appreciate those of you who have helped with that, because I've gone as far nearly as I can with the sources available to me.

Welches on WikiTree - Progress in Connecting Profiles - January 2020The percentage of Welch profiles connected to the main tree has stuck to an even narrower band (88.1% to 88.2%) than the rate of sourced Welches. The percentage of Welches from ThePeerage.com that are connected to the main tree continues to surpass the percentage of Slades from Wikipedia, and that is probably largely due to the fact that entries on ThePeerage usually link to other family members, which makes it a lot easier to connect them. Both percentages lag well behind Welches as a whole, but those numbers should improve as we work on them.

Notable Unconnected Welches:

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Thank you for your study Greg. I have added the Welch Name Study category to my 8 x great grandfather Edward Welch who died in 1729 and was buried in the parish of Bletchingdon, Oxfordshire, England. 
I don't know very much about him other than his name. 

The name does seem to vary in the parish registers from Welch to Welsh and back again. 

by A O'Brien G2G6 Mach 1 (13.6k points)
edited by A O'Brien

Thank you, A.

Looking at Edward's profile, I see that his children were pretty evenly divided between using "Welch" or "Walsh" as a surname, which kind of reinforces Rob's point that we should be including spelling variations.

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I've updated the charts on the Welch Name Study page again.

Welches on WikiTree - Where Welch is the Last Name At BirthHappily, the number of profiles on WikiTree with a Last Name At Birth of Welch has continued to rise, and the number of sourced and connected Welch profiles have also been rising in parallel. You may notice that the "Sourced" number is rising more slowly, because I went through the Orphaned Welches and added the {{Unsourced}} template where it applied.

Welches on WikiTree - Adding Profiles - April 2020Progress in adding Welches from WikiTree looks much better this quarter, but there are still lots of Welches to add from both ThePeerage.com and from WikiTree.

by Greg Slade G2G6 Pilot (397k points)

Welches on WikiTree - Progress in Sourcing Profiles - April 2020The percentage of Welches on WikiTree which are considered as "Sourced" has remained in a narrow range between 94.4% and 94.7% since September. On the one hand, quite a number of the profiles with the {{Unsourced}} template on them are unlisted, which, in my mind, is a bit unfair, since privacy regulations make it very hard to source most people while they're still alive. (Unless they hit the news or something.) On the other hand, there are probably hundreds, or possibly even thousands, of unsourced Welch profiles on WikiTree which don't have any sources, but don't have the template, either, so even though I track those numbers, they're probably not to be trusted.

The percentage of Welches on Wikipedia (in other words, notable Welches) and on ThePeerage.com which are considered as "sourced" appear to have taken a dramatic jump this quarter. We have been able to add more sources, but most of the difference is that I've decided to count the sourced profiles as a percentage of the profiles on WikiTree, rather than as a percentage of the people listed on the source. (So, for example, 31 sourced profiles for people listed on ThePeerage.com out of the 34 profiles on WikiTree comes to 91.2% sourced, as opposed to 49.2%, which is what it would be if I were still taking the percentage from the 63 Welches listed on ThePeerage.com. I didn't make that change to make the numbers look better [although they do], but rather to give a more accurate picture of the state of the profiles on WikiTree. [The "Adding Profiles" chart already shows how much farther there is to go there, anyway.])

Welches on WikiTree - Sourcing Levels - April 2020I've implemented a new measure this quarter, measuring the average sourcing level for Welches on WikiTree (or at least those four subsets of Welches which I'm tracking in my spreadsheet, and thus have sourcing levels for). Sourcing levels are as follows:

3 = 3 or more primary sources, possibly plus secondary sources

2 = 2 primary sources, possibly plus secondary sources

1 = 1 primary source, possibly plus secondary sources

0.5 = One or more secondary sources, no primary sources

0 = Unsourced or unavailable for analysis due to privacy settings

So the goal is to move the average sourcing level to 3, or at least closer to it.

Welches on WikiTree - Progress in Connecting Profiles - April 2020

Just like the percentage of Welches which are "sourced", I have changed the measurement of Welches which are connected, so the numbers have taken a similarly dramatic jump this quarter, but the change more accurately reflects the state of profiles on WikiTree.

I have also added a new dataset to the tracking: Welches in my own Watchlist who are neither on ThePeerage.com nor on Wikipedia. 

Notable Unconnected Welches:

Welches on WikiTree - Template Applied - April 2020

Another new measure I've implemented this quarter is tracking the percentage of profiles in the Welch subsets I'm tracking who have the {{One Name Study|name=Welch}} template applied to the first Welch profile in that line. I have added that template myself to the tops of lines whose profiles I manage myself, and in the orphaned profiles I've come across for heads of lines. For managed profiles, I have sent private messages to the profile managers.

Welches on WikiTree - Categories Per Profile - April 2020I've also started measuring the average categories per profile. For most people, I would expect profiles for their place of birth and place of death at the very least. For people for whom I have been able to find an occupation in at least two records (census, marriage, or death records), I add the category for that occupation. There are also categories for universities, colleges, and even high schools, and for military units, and various medals and awards. So the low number of categories for most subsets of Welches is probably a sign that they need a lot more research. 

If anybody who has better access to the necessary sources than I do wants to take a crack at them, here are some of the Welches from ThePeerage.com who I have not been able to create profiles for yet. (In some cases, I do have birth or death dates, but haven't been able to find any source for that person other then ThePeerage.com. In other cases, I haven't even been able to find a birth or death date, without which I can't create a profile even if I wanted to.)

If you should happen to turn up more information on any of these people, I think Darryl Lundy, who runs ThePeerage.com, would appreciate an update. There is a link to reach him at the bottom of every page on the site.
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I've updated the charts on the Welch Name Study page again.

Welches on WikiTree - Where Welch is the Last Name At BirthHappily, the number of profiles on WikiTree with a Last Name At Birth of Welch has continued to rise, and the number of sourced and connected Welch profiles have also been rising in parallel. 

Welches on WikiTree - Adding Profiles - June 2020Progress in adding Welches from WikiTree continues, but there are still lots of Welches to add from both ThePeerage.com and from WikiTree. On Wikipedia, particularly, I'm running out of notable Welches for whom I can find a source other than Wikipedia itself, so progress there is bound to be slower in the future. 

by Greg Slade G2G6 Pilot (397k points)

Welches on WikiTree - Progress in Sourcing Profiles - June 2020The percentage of Welches on which are considered as "Sourced" is above 90% for all four data sets, largely because I'm only adding people from ThePeerage.com and Wikipedia if I can source them. On the other hand, there are probably hundreds, or possibly even thousands, of unsourced Welch profiles on WikiTree which don't have any sources, but don't have the template, either, so even though I track those numbers, they're probably not to be trusted.

Welches on WikiTree - Sourcing Levels - June 2020The average sourcing level for notable Welches actually dropped this quarter, because I've been adding profiles even when I can only find one source.

Welches on WikiTree - Progress in Connecting Profiles - June 2020

The percentage of Welches who are connected to the main tree continues to improve. What doesn't show up in this chart is that, this month, I was able to connect together Welch lines which, while connected to the main tree, were not connected to each other, on three occasions.

Notable Unconnected Welches:

Welches on WikiTree - Template Applied - June 2020

The percentage of profiles from WikiTree who have the {{One Name Study|name=Welch}} template applied to the first Welch profile in that line has gone up, because I have been adding the template as I create the profiles.

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