Other than Michael,is there anyone closer than 20 steps from Michael Cayley

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I'm 20 degrees from Michael through my Aunt Betty who is directly related to hei through the McCollum line
WikiTree profile: Michael Cayley
in The Tree House by David Hughey G2G6 Pilot (606k points)
Not me - 24 steps.

24 steps but supposedly 10th cousins three times removed (Uncertain)

24 here.

9 Answers

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Micheal appears to be my 15th cousin twice removed via the common ancestor the First Earl of Pembroke "Black William." There are a few connections on my lineage to Black William that should be explored further, a 16th ggf I have not before looked at.

by T Stanton G2G6 Mach 7 (77.3k points)

Gotta love WikiTree. The first investigation into the ancestral line leading to the common ancestor above resulted in the detachment of the line. Now WikiTree shows us having a common 16th great grandmother and as 17th cousins. Another line requiring investigation but 509 common ancestors something is bound to be actually documented!

ooh T - Black William is one of mine too! (And Michael and I are also cousins.. and connection is 23 degrees.)

During 2018's 52 ancestors... He was my answer for Week 4 (January 22-28): Invite to Dinner

  • G2G: my answer
  • Profile: A dinner party hosted by "Black William", the Earl of Pembroke, whose natural son Richard Herbert is my 13x-gr-grandfather.
Oh, Liz. I am sad to say I have debunked the WikiTree connection between myself and Black William! However, there are so many common ancestors (509! crazy) in that time period when I get back to that I think he'll be related in some manner. The profile does not speak to the nickname. Do you know what that's all about?

Maybe you were looking at his son's profile? It's in his...

Fighting for the first Yorkist king of England, Edward IV, "Black William of Raglan [had] driven Earl Jasper from the land, taken his title and his earldom [Pembroke] from him, and captured Henry Tudor, and held him prisoner in Raglan."[4]

  1. Owen Rhoscomyl, Flame-bearers of Welsh History: Being the Outline of the Story of The Sons of Cunedda (1905), pages 232-3, page 239
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19 steps / 17th cousin 1x removed
by Richard Shelley G2G6 Pilot (131k points)
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Not me, I'm 25 degrees away connected through my Mowery ancestors.
by Dina Grozev G2G6 Mach 4 (42.3k points)
+4 votes
18th cousins once removed with an unknown confidence level.
by Diane Hildebrandt G2G6 Mach 2 (27.1k points)
+3 votes
27 steps . . . what else is new?!

I noticed something interesting though.  Most connections go through the Chilcoats to my mother's line even though my PATERNAL great-grandmother is a Chilcoat.  Can we talk tangled intermarriages?  Until I studied a couple of these connections, I didn't realize the maternal line also had Chilcoats.
by Kathy Rabenstein G2G6 Pilot (167k points)
+3 votes
18 steps for me through the New Zealand Lovells and Popes.
by Fiona McMichael G2G6 Pilot (117k points)
+4 votes
Michael and Sandra are 8th cousins twice removed

Michael Cayley and Sandra (Griffin) Vines are both descendants of Archibald III Campbell.

Michael Cayley is 19 Degrees from Sandra Vines
by Sandra Vines G2G6 Mach 2 (21.3k points)
We have a winner!
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Four common ancestors were found between me, Norman Walters-5441 within 15 generations. We are 13th cousins. One of the common ancestors is George Waldegrave of Smallbridge, Essex, England. He is a 12th great grandfather of both of us.
by Norman Walters G2G1 (1.4k points)
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17 degrees, but only a 17th cousin once removed.
by Chris Weston G2G6 (9.3k points)

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