What is correct name for birthplace of someone born in the Palatinate region of Germany about 1690 ?

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The passengers of ship Davy were called "Palatinates", in the Pennsylvania Gazette dated October 26, 1738.   I am not familiar with Germany, but I think (based on Wikipedia definition), his birthplace should listed as Rhineland-Pfalz, Germany.  Is this correct?
WikiTree profile: Johann Jacob Schramm
in Genealogy Help by L Adcox G2G1 (1.9k points)
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During the 1700s, almost all German-speaking immigrants to America were popularly referred to as "Palatines" (and described as such in ships' records), although many of them weren't from the Palatinate. They may have come from other parts of modern Germany, Switzerland, or Alsace -- or possibly other areas.

The Palatine Migration Project has been established to work on genealogy of people who emigrated from Germany in the "Palatine" migration, circa 1709 to 1776.

by Ellen Smith G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)
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By the time his family came over on The Davy ( Waldmohr, Germany 1738 Oct 25) the German Countryside, The Palatinate, was in terrible shape from the war. That's why they came to America as indentured servants to pay for the trip. As far as Jacob Johann, your correct but on record we have listed Dunzweiler, Germany

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Yes, that designation is correct. During the War of the Grand Alliance (1689-97), the troops of the French monarch Louis XIV ravaged the Rhenish Palatinate, causing many Germans to emigrate. Many of the early German settlers of America (e.g., the Pennsylvania Dutch) were refugees from the Palatinate.

Due to oppressive taxation, religious bickering, hunger for more and better land, the advertising of the English colonies in America and the favorable attitude of the British government toward settlement in the North American colonies many thousands of "Palatinates" emigrated during the ensuing decades.

by Patrick Barnum G2G6 Mach 5 (51.6k points)
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Rheinland-Pfalz is a modern creation after WWII. It exists only since 1946. In the 17th and early 18th century it was an assembly of quite a few indepented regions, states, bishoprics, and cities. Without further knowledge where a person came from the closest one could say as origin is "Pfalz, Heiliges Römisches Reich". " Rhenish Palatinate" was never an official name and was only inofficially used in the early 19th century to distinguish between the original Pfalz and the new Bavarian creation in 1835.
by Helmut Jungschaffer G2G6 Pilot (545k points)
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Until 1794 Waldmohr belonged to the dukedom Pfalz-Zweibrücken (Herzogtum Pfalz-Zweibrücken) as a "reichsunmittelbares Fürstentum des Heiligen Römischen Reichs", means: it was an independant Part of the Holy German Empire. (Source: Wikipedia)
Germany's medieval history is quite complicated, the German Empire was then a big patchwork of dukedomes, princedoms and independant cities. The text of his birthplace should state: Waldmohr, Herzogtum Pfalz-Zweibrücken, heiliges Römisches Reich
by Ronnie Grindle G2G6 Mach 1 (17.2k points)

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