Is there anyone out there who is related to the US 16th President (“Honest Abe?” [closed]

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I always knew that President Lincoln was related to us, as my late paternal Grandmother proudly kept impeccable handwritten records (family tree) of it, but never knew the exact relation. Now, after building part of my family tree, I found out that he is my 5th cousin, 4 times removed, basically a “distant cousin.” His 4th great grandparents (“Sam the Weaver” Lincoln and Martha Lyford Lincoln) are my 8th great grandparents. Anyone else?
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I am 7th cousin 5x removed from President Lincoln. Our shared ancestor, Richard Whitman, was born in England about 1570! Although Richard Whitman never made it to this continent, he's had a big influence - he's not only a direct ancestor of Walt Whitman (through son Zachariah), President Lincoln (through his son John), but also Presidents Bush and James Garfield (through his daughter Elizabeth & Thomas Stream). Richard Whitman's profile is  wiki/Whitman-94.
I'm trying to find information about this my grandmother always told me and my kids that Abraham Lincoln is my dad's 32nd cousin and my 33rd cousin but now she has passed away my grandfather Elwood Leon Fetterolf  also passed away so if anyone can possibly help me I'd greatly appreciate it
Maybe she was making a joke.  At that level of connectedness, everyone is related to everyone else.  It's like saying you're descended from Charlamagne.  So what? So's everyone else.
Stu, while I might agree with your basic point, you may miss several other points re genealogy.  It's not so much to say that one is related to Charlemagne, its being able to trace the relationship through records and even become a vetted member of the Charlemagne Family.  When you consider life spans within each generation of ancestors, war, plague, migrations, and the multitudes of other calamities that have struck the human race in the last 3000 years, it's a wonder that a single person can trace back a direct line some 45 generations.
Yes I am related to President Lincoln.
According to Family Search, he is my 8th cousin, five times removed.  This is through my Vaughan line.
My Name is Bobby Angell Nancy Hanks Lincoln is my 5th great Aunt My great grandma Cordiella Hanks is the daughter of Albert Ellsworth hanks and he is the son of Ellsworth hanks who was the son of solomon hanks. Now Solomon is the son of Joshua hanks and Joshua hanks is the son of Joseph hanks brother to Nancy Hanks lincoln. My great grandmas Aunt cora mae hanks linenweber did a huge reasearch project on Nancy hanks and I always knew we was related from family notes but could not figure out how untill one day I received a biography my great grandma and her Aunt cora mae did way back when it was then I went to the lincoln memorial library and searched for my great grandmas name and was able to find it. Solomon hanks was best friends with Abraham and his family not just cousins. Anyone else related to us?
It is my understanding President Lincoln has no descendants now living, so DNA is not helpful.  However, if you are related to Nancy Hanks you are related to him.  If you think you are related through the Lincolns you probably are not, as it is widely believed that Lincoln’s biological father was a man named Abraham Enloe, who had been Nancy’s employer.  Enloe was a southerner and a man of higher intelligence than Thomas Lincoln, who, was just Lincoln’s stepfather.  Enloe had a large family, the youngest son of whom was interviewed about this long after the president’s death.  This man, Wesley Enloe, had the same long and lanky physique as the president.  He said he had always known the story of Nancy Hanks being a servant in the house and falling pregnant there.   This caused a difficulty in the Enloe marriage so his father sent Nancy away but paid for her to be cared for.  It was also said Lincoln was given money to marry her.  

Abraham Lincoln privately acknowledged this, even giving one of his Enloe nephews a commission even though he was a southerner and a democrat.   Lincoln and his heirs created a different myth about his background to cover up the illegitimacy.   He could not have succeeded in office if this was publicly known.   The people of western North Carolina who descend from Enloe have perpetuated the story.  That is DNA that should be tested.
Joseph hanks is my 5th great grandfather he is the father of Nancy Hanks lincoln and Nancy Shipley who is my 5th great grandmother. Cordiella Hanks daughter of Albert Ellsworth Hanks son of Solomon Hanks who is cousins with Nancy Hanks lincoln and was good friends with Abraham lincoln his cousin. Solomon is my 4th great grandfather. Cordiella Hanks married Robert Bailey Angell in Sibley IL he is my great grandfather he is my Grandpa's father. According to my 4th great Grandfathers obituary He was the last known decendant related to Abraham lincoln. According to ancestry Abraham lincoln is my 5th cousin 5 times removed I have all the information I need to email it to prove this. I am related only through the Hanks family.
He is my 3rd cousin 7 times removed.

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Abraham and Charles are 6th cousins four times removed

My ninth great grandfather is Abe's fifth great grandfather, Obadiah Holmes-142 (one of the first baptist ministers in the colonies (1639).
by Charles Gibson G2G Crew (480 points)
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7th Cousin, 5 times removed...through both my paternal grandparents. Common ancestors #1 is Richard Whitman, however #2 is not conclusive Edward Gilman II and may not be correct.

It is distant but fun to think about.

by Kim Clark G2G3 (3.7k points)
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15th cousin 8 times removed.  Whoopee! Lol

Terri
by Terri Swift G2G6 Mach 2 (23.8k points)
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Abe and I are 7th cousins 7x removed, through Edward Gilman II.

Edward is the sixth great grandfather of Abraham, and my 13th great grandfather.

It's neat to see all these connections to him!
by Cheyenne Boggioni G2G6 (8.4k points)
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I'm a 2nd cousin 5x removed.  His grandfather, also named Abraham Lincoln, had a sister Lydia Lincoln, who married 1st Benjamin Bryan. They are my 5th-great-grandparents.
by Loretta Layman G2G6 Mach 4 (44.3k points)
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President Lincoln and I are 2nd cousins 5x removed. His grandfather, also named Abraham, had a sister Lydia Lincoln, who married Benjamin Bryan. They are my 5th-great-grandparents.
by Loretta Layman G2G6 Mach 4 (44.3k points)
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Abraham and Sandra are 6th cousins four times removed

Abraham Lincoln and Sandra (Griffin) Vines are both descendants of Richard Lee.

by Sandra Vines G2G6 Pilot (135k points)
Another close relationship as mine and I was wondering how to find out who the common ancestor is as numerous folks have mentioned. Thanks!
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5th Cousins, 5 times removed. Samuel (1622) and Martha are the common Ancestors, and my 9th Great Grand Parents. His eldest son Samuel (1650) started the Branch that became my line, his fourth son Mordecai started the branch that became Abe's line.
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Very similar to my relationship as far as cousins. Sam and Martha are my 8th great grandparents and then I come down their son, Daniel’s, line.
Carol,

First of all thank you for starting the conversation. This is all very cool, and makes me both happy and (a little) sad. First of all glad to (sort of) meet you. I find this all quite fascinating, and am glad to meet a relative that shares a similar lineage to my own, Daniel was next in line to Samuel (Jr.).

The sad part (or perhaps bitter sweet is a better term). is my dad searched, largely in vein, for this link. We had always been told of the connection, and he tried for 4 decades to prove it, but didn't live long enough to see the results of that work. When he passed I made it a mission to finish what he'd started... And now... through that... I'm meeting someone who closely shares that experience, and is "family" however distant... so thank you for bringing this out, by asking your question....!

Michael (I actually go by my middle name...)
Actually... Lots of someone's... lotta folks here with similar connections...!!!
Hi again, Michael,

As far as the “bittersweet,” I can totally understand, as I lost my Dad over 30 years ago when he was 64. The only difference between your and my regrets is that I wish my Dad was here to see the Sox win their first World Series in 86 years. He was a loyal fan all his life, never missing a game no matter what place they were in. He’d even go down to their spring training camp every March. As far as his relationship to our 16th president, he’d call Abe his “long lost cousin,” but never was into the researching part. I, like you, find it all so fascinating! Do you live in the New England area? I checked my Ancestry DNA matches and there was a distant cousin with your name listed as a “distant cousin,” and I wondered if it was you.

~ cousin carol
Carol...

Sounds like your dad was a true fan in every sense of the word... Would have been great for him to be able to see that... but I'm sure he was watching nonetheless...!

I live on the west coast now, but am originally from North Western Massachusetts. Not sure I'm the connection you mention, but it based purely on the geography of the match it's at least a possibility...!

M.
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I understand I am a 12th cousin, many times removed.
by Donald Darms G2G1 (1.3k points)
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Yes, according to Wikitree, I am related.

A mutual ancestor, Richard Whitman, was Lincoln's 6th great-grandfather, and my 10 great-grandfather. I have no idea how many cousins that is...
by Deborah David G2G6 (8.0k points)
Richard Whitman, wiki/Whitman-94 was also an ancestor of Presidents Bush and James Garfield. Lincoln was through through his son John, and the other three through his daughter Elizabeth and Thomas Stream. You can find the presidents and then use the relationship finder to see more details.
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I'm Abe's ninth cousin, three times removed, via the Averys of Groton, Philip Bill, symon Tuttle, to Robert Lincoln Sr.  I suspect I share that line with many others.
by Halsey Bullen G2G6 Mach 1 (13.2k points)
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I am an 18 th cousin twice removed, Awesome !
by Lynda Pollitt G2G6 (7.1k points)
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First cousin 6x removed for me!
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That’s an interesting connection that I hadn’t heard before!
His grandfather, Abraham Lincoln, is my 6th great grandfather. I descend through son Mordecai Lincoln who married Mary Mudd and their dau Elizabeth Lincoln who married Benjamin Edelen Mudd.
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I am 6th cousins three times removed through the Whitmans. My family has been in Canada for six generations along that line.
by Morag M G2G4 (4.0k points)
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9th cousin four times removed.

by Larry Ridgley G2G6 (9.2k points)
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President Lincoln and I are 2nd cousins 5x removed.
His grandfather, also named Abraham, was a brother of Lydia Lincoln, who is my 5th-great-grandmother. Lydia's profile includes an image of page 1 of a 1998 letter to me from Lincoln historian Paul H. Verduin, who for many years was also General Secretary of the Abraham Lincoln Institute of the MidAtlantic, stating his satisfaction with the evidence for my relationship to Abe.  Profile : Lincoln-256.

by Loretta Layman G2G6 Mach 4 (44.3k points)
edited by Loretta Layman
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For me: 5th cousins 6x removed
by Marsha Baker G2G6 (6.6k points)
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Lincoln is my 17th cousin twice removed. Yippee! I’m (extremely distantly) related to 29 presidents and 25 First Ladies.
by Shelley Montague G2G4 (4.4k points)
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Yes! The Great Decimator is a distant cousin.  He and I are both related to an actor named Booth.  Seems that we are all related to one another if if not documented.
by Living Anderson G2G6 Mach 7 (79.3k points)
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Yes, 7th cousin 3x, but you are my 8th cousin 2x, How about that? Nice to meet you.
by Rick Mengle G2G1 (1.6k points)

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