Is there anyone out there who is related to the US 16th President (“Honest Abe?” [closed]

+16 votes
I always knew that President Lincoln was related to us, as my late paternal Grandmother proudly kept impeccable handwritten records (family tree) of it, but never knew the exact relation. Now, after building part of my family tree, I found out that he is my 5th cousin, 4 times removed, basically a “distant cousin.” His 4th great grandparents (“Sam the Weaver” Lincoln and Martha Lyford Lincoln) are my 8th great grandparents. Anyone else?
WikiTree profile: Abraham Lincoln
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7th cousin 3 x removed going back to Lee/Taylor marriage.

15th cousin.  120 common ancestors were found between Abraham and Stu

17th cousin once removed
I have no common ancestors now. Down from 120 a month ago. Something has changed.
7th cousin 2x removed. Via Holmes/ Stillwell......

11th cousins five times removed. Quite distant. 

11th cousin 5 times removed

He is my 9th cousin four times removed.

Abraham and Stu are 12th cousins four times removed

3 common ancestors this month. 
I have determined that Sarah Lincoln Boone is my 6th great grandmother, and I believe she is an Aunt of Abe, but as a newbie at this, I'm a bit stuck on how to connect myself to Abe.

55 Answers

+4 votes
He may have been an American President but was not a president of my Country.  I don't mean to be picky but sometimes some of the Americans here forget that there are a lot of volunteers here that are not American. If I did not know that this website is international. and  I came across this website accidently and saw  a question worded as above  I would assume that this website is for American Genealogy only.
by Anonymous Anonymous G2G6 Mach 3 (32.2k points)
edited by Anonymous Anonymous

Hi Anonymous,

I gave you an  "up" vote because I'm guilty of posting towards the American audience.sad   I'm trying to stop that habit because I so enjoy many of the non-american members,  but I do slip up.blush

However,  when your wikitree ID is Anonymous Anonymous,  it distracts from your honest intentions towards working with us.    If you're here for the  "long haul"  we'd enjoy seeing a more personal side of you.smiley

Just trying to understand why a post on G2G with a question about an American president and relationships is so controversial.    There are posts about relationships to Queen Elizabeth, posts about other famous people.   This week the relationship finder on your profile includes Henry VIII.

It was the word  "our"  followed by 16th President, I don't celebrate the 4th of July nor Thanksgiving because i am not an American therefore the 16th President of the USA was never my President. I don't say our Henry VIII, or Our Queen Elizabeth II. it just sometimes because this site has so many Americans on it some of you Americans  forget that there are other nationalities that use this site. This is not the only example i have found.that seems to assume everyone here is an American.  As I already said if I saw a question  worded as above on another website I would assume that, that website was for Ameircans only. 

ps is it true that americans eat pumpkin cheesecake

In reply to your comment about why I use anonymous  anonymous here it is because a 5 th cousin of mine without the permission of all my living relatives put a lot of information about my family online, including my siblings, cousins, 2nd cousins etc they are still living. I was somewhat horrified about that, I had been collaborating with my more distant relatives like my 5th cousin, I had at the time typed (yes I used a typewriter) my family history and given out   copies to all my known relatives.  It was I thought a private family history to be shared within the family. However when the internet got popular he put the family history online with details of living relatives  I am always concerned that if I use my real name then someone somewhere will be able to track my real name to that website and I am very mindful that this could compromise the privacy of my siblings. cousins etc. Without a real name it will be much harder to find this website. I had my account confirmed on the 10th September 2015, I am rather computer illiterate, so it take me forever to make a profile, so it has been slow going for me,  I already have a lot of information still on paper about people who are related to me, that I have not added here because it take me so long to do so and have mainly worked on direct ancestors.
Thanks for your response and I have corrected the question to be more neutral.
thank you
Oh, my! Was it me who wrote “our?” If so, I guess I’ve lived here too long and am used to saying “our...”

Please don’t take any offense to it, and thank you to whoever fixed the question.

In answer to your question about pumpkin cheesecake, I LOVE pumpkin anything! Bread, yogurt, ice cream, muffins, hot cocoa, hummus, egg nog, with pumpkin chocolate chip cookies being my favorite. I don’t know if it’s just a local (New England area), thing, but we look forward to each autumn, the only time of year it’s around.
+4 votes
My husband is sixth cousin 4x removed.
by Teresa Davis G2G6 Mach 3 (34.8k points)
+6 votes

1st Cousin, 7x

My 5th Great Grandmother was his first cousin.

Margaret Legrand (nee Hanks) > Sophia Conway (nee Legrand) > Stephen S Conway > Stella Degonia (nee Conway) > Nora Meador (nee Degonia) > William Meador Sr > William Meader Jr > Myself

Turns out that my wife is also related, being 3rd cousins 6 times removed.
+4 votes
I'm 8th cousin 4x
by E J Gooden G2G6 Mach 1 (10.8k points)
+4 votes
I'm also 9th cousin 4x removed to Mary Todd.
by E J Gooden G2G6 Mach 1 (10.8k points)
+4 votes
Abraham Lincoln is my 2nd cousin 4 x removed.  My 2nd Great-grandmother Martha Hanks Bartlett is his 2nd cousin.
by Bonnie Lawyer G2G Crew (530 points)
+3 votes
He is my 6th cousin 7 times removed on through my maternal grandfather.

He and my husband are 18th cousins twice removed (wow - guess you could say they are barely related?)
by Alicia Taylor G2G6 Mach 4 (44.7k points)
+4 votes
I am possibly but haven't totally checked it out. I do have a Taylor connection. Dr. James Taylor (1610-1654) is my 9th great grandfather. Capt. Thomas Taylor (1574-1618) is my 10th great grandfather. Rowland Taylor (1510-1555) is my 12th great grandfather.
+3 votes
9th 5x through common ancestor Lincoln-368.
by Carol Baldwin G2G6 Pilot (415k points)
+2 votes
I have a connection to the Lincoln family in New England, and my family always thought we were related to Honest Abe.  However I no longer think I am, and I don’t think any of you are either.  Unless you have Hanks ancestry. There is a lot of mythology about the man who may have been our greatest president.   There are some truths we may never know, as I don’t believe there are any descendants who can give us the dna.  

People who knew Lincoln, like his law partner and biographer, were complicit in keeping the question of his legitimacy out of the public knowledge. This was a coverup that Lincoln required to participate in national politics.  Lincoln himself made some reference to it, with a statement about poverty.   The illegitimacy on the Hanks side is known, but the Enloe tale is not as known.  Nancy Hanks was the servant girl of a man named Abraham Enloe.  He got her pregnant.  His wife was not happy and got Nancy out of the house. Abraham Enloe paid a lowlife named Lincoln to marry Nancy and raise her son as his.  Enloe was tall and was a southern patrician. He was intelligent and was involved with local politics.  Lincoln the stepfather was short, illiterate, and of low intellectual ability.  He treated his stepson with contempt and hired him out for chores.   Which of those two men sounds like Our President’s father.  Since I read this story ( and saw a picture of one of Enloe’s sons, who had the same body shape as the president), I have always been sure that Abraham Lincoln was an Enloe.
by Carolyn Adams G2G6 Mach 5 (59.3k points)
Woah, this is news to me, as I have never heard anything about Abraham being another man’s child! Ironically, I’ve gotten comments all my life about my “high cheekbones,” “serious expression” and “deep set eyes,” and I attributed them to the “Lincoln genes.”

So, if it’s true that Abraham Enloe was Abe’s biological father, would that mean that I no longer have a blood connection to him? His (supposed) Lincoln 4th great grandparents (Samuel and Martha Lyford Lincoln) are my 8th great grandparents.

Thank you for bringing this to light.
+1 vote
I am related. Richard Whitman|Whitman-94 was the 6th great-grandfather of Abraham Lincoln, and the 10th great-grandfather of me|David-2121
by Deborah David G2G2 (2.8k points)
+1 vote
6th cousins 5x removed
by Dee Bekman G2G3 (3.1k points)
+1 vote
I am related to Lincoln's mother Nancy Hanks. We are third cousins once removed descended from William Hanks Sr., her second g-grandfather. Her mother Lucey (Hanks) Sparrow was unmarried when she was born. It is complicated to say the least. Abraham Lincoln is my 4th cousin 3 times removed. Both descended from William Hanks Sr.
by Gerald Jones G2G6 (7.4k points)
edited by Gerald Jones
+2 votes
My grandmother told us we were the 7th cousins of president Abraham Lincoln.

Dennis Crawford
by Dennis Crawford G2G Crew (470 points)
+2 votes
I am 5th cousins, 4 times removed
by Larry Dunn G2G Crew (700 points)

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