Why, for example, is there a US Civil War Category and a United States Cvil War Category?

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The Category organization is way to convoluted, illogically organized and repetitive.
in Policy and Style by Raymond Stokely G2G2 (2.5k points)
retagged by Natalie Trott
First, do not change the Military and War Category Structure because the team backed that and it took over 18 months to  get it right and approved. Only delete categories that may have been added incorrectly. You need to check with the project first.

Could you please paste a link to the US Civil War Category? I can’t find it.  

Thanks!

Paula

Here is the Military and War Project Page which includes an entire section on categories:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Project:Military_and_War

Here is the Military help page which includes the category tree:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:MilitaryHelp-Military

It took almost a year to change all of the Military categories to fit the format. Keith McDonald was our Category Liaison. I suggest you contact him. 

Thanks!

Paula, leader of Civil War Project 

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Right, Ray, and we try to address it but it takes:
1. Time

2. Effort

3. Collaboration

Working on it every day.
by Natalie Trott G2G6 Pilot (697k points)
selected by Anonymous Haywood
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Why are either of them used ? By definition the states were not united. Quite the opposite. I thought it was generally called the American Civil War: eg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_American_Civil_War

The Confederate government avoided the term "civil war", because it assumes both combatants to be part of a single country, and referred in official documents to the "War between the Confederate States of America and the United States of America".[7] European diplomacy produced a similar formula for avoiding the phrase "civil war". Queen Victoria's proclamation of British neutrality referred to "hostilities ... between the Government of the United States of America and certain States styling themselves the Confederate States of America".

by Joe Farler G2G6 Mach 9 (92.6k points)

Southerners have more names for the war. wink

During the "Civil War" there were many terms used by both sides, including "The War Between the States" and "The War of Northern Aggression,"  and some we don't want to repeat.

Anything you call it will be revised in 20 years as politics and political correctness changes American language.

To me, it is the (capitalized) Civil War, and I'm not sure how you deliniate that from the Civil War in Spain in the 1930's or any of the myriad Civil Wars since recorded time began.

rsl
In the Civil Wars category,why not  have ; American Civil War, Spanish Civil War, English Civil War etc etc. ? Add dates if necessary. Then the categories are distinct and self-explanatory.
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This is not a mistake. When the Military and War Category structure was updated, all war categories have the country name first. For example, United States World War I.

The United States at that time did exist. The Southern states just succeeded from it.

So these are the two categories:  Category:Unites States Civil War and Category:Confederate States of America, United States Civil War.  

Both are parent or upper level categories. The US Civil War which I don’t see as a category may be referring to the project which had a very long name in order to satisfy members with ancestors on both sides and became shortened In usage as the US Civil War.

If it’s an actual category, someone must have added it. Anyone can add a category to a project.
by Paula J G2G6 Pilot (242k points)
You may have noticed the Union Army fought under the United States Flag.

There are some categories with the US Civil War in the name, but I am finding that they belong to other projects or were created to contain profiles of Civil War personnel within a name study. There are also categories like this: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Knox_County%2C_Tennessee%2C_US_Civil_War_Soldiers

None of these are M&W categories. 

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