Help with pre-1850 Georgia/South Carolina records?

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I'm trying to find out more about James Savage and his family in Newton County, Georgia in the early 1800s. I'm especially hoping to find names of wife and kids to verify or refute a possible connection to my ancestor Elizabeth (Savage) Lavender.  He's in the 1830 U.S. census with (presumed) wife and 6 kids, then the 1840 census with 8 kids, no wife. Can't find him in 1850 or later censuses so he may have died before then. I haven't been able to find a will or death record in the searchable databases at FamilySearch or Ancestry. If I'm right about his connection to Elizabeth, it's possible he came to Georgia from South Carolina before 1830, so I need to search there as well.  Any help or suggestions would be appreciated!

WikiTree profile: James Savage
in Genealogy Help by Lisa Hazard G2G6 Mach 8 (82.9k points)

I have this from North Carolina

Martha A Melton

 in the North Carolina, Death Certificates, 1909-1976

Name: Martha A Melton
[Martha A Savage] 
Gender: Female
Race: White
Age: 83
Birth Date: 19 Jun 1835
Birth Place: , North Carolina, United States
Death Date: 6 Aug 1918
Death Place: Wilmington, New Hanover, North Carolina, USA
Father: Willian Savage
Mother: Tobitha Savage
Search for Martha A Melton in North Carolina Wills & Probates collection

Martha Ann Savage Melton

Birth
North Carolina, USA
Death 6 Aug 1918 (aged 86)
Wilmington, New Hanover County, North Carolina, USA
Burial Wilmington, New Hanover County, North Carolina, USA
Memorial ID 26965433 · View Source

Daughter of Tabitha and William Savage


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Thanks!  I'll check those out in more detail later.

Also, I just managed to find a land lottery record for James Savage at Ancestry:

Name: James Savage
County: Carroll
Captain's District: Pullens
Number: 62
District: 3
Lottery Date: 1827
Source: REPRINT of OFFICIAL REGISTER of LAND LOTTERY OF GEORGIA 1827; 13th DAY'S DRAWING-March 21; NEWTON. page 38

 

So that's consistent with him having kids elsewhere (SC?) in the early 1820s, then moving to GA before 1830 and having a couple more.  

And it just keeps getting better!  I found a War of 1812 muster roll listing for James Savage in Randolph Co. NC.  That's important because I have definite DNA ties to the Savage family in Randolph/Stokes Counties but haven't been able to come up with a connection yet.  If James is the son of one of the Randolph Savages, then moved first to SC and then to GA, it all fits.  Next up:  looking for 1812 service record/pension application.

Name: James Savage
State: NC
County: Randolph County Regiment
Township: Fourth Company
Year: 1812
Database: NC 1812-1814 Muster Rolls
I think I just found Martha hiding in the tree of one of my Ancestry DNA matches.  The match links two otherwise unconnected clusters of matches, including my NC Savage cluster.  There's a "Martha Ann" (no last name) in the tree, b. 1832 in SC, with parents born in NC/GA.  She's married to James S. Goodwin.  Looks like they lived in Florida, then Alabama.  Now to see if I can find her last name listed somewhere to confirm that it's her.  Maybe in the marriage or death record for one of her kids?  And maybe if I find her own death record it'll list her parents.
Do you have any connections you can add to your profile? Locations would also be helpful. If you aren’t certain, you can mark uncertain status.

Most of the Savage lines I have worked are in the western part of NC and the upstate of SC down to GA. What would be considered the back country along the Great Wagon Road in the Appalachian Valley. Since families migrated together, it would also be helpful to know any other family names or collateral lines.
Lisa,

I'm glad you're finding connections. Sometimes I find a family by following a neighbor or something like that. I'm willing to hit the weeds and cut 'em down to get to an ancestor. They like to hide.

I've updated with some tentative locations.  I don't have any people I'm confident enough about to connect yet on the profile page, but here's what I suspect based on a growing pile of circumstantial evidence.  

1.  James is the father of Elizabeth, Braxton, James, and Martha and would need to be merged with the Unknown Savage I created to connect those four to each other.

2.  James is the son of Jeremiah SavageThomas Savage, or an unknown brother of theirs.  DNA matches connect me to that family in Randolph/Stokes Counties, NC.  (Note that Jeremiah and Thomas aren't connected to each other right now; there's a merge pending for their parents since I inadvertently duplicated them.)

OK, I've decided to just go for it and merge James with Unknown Savage.  Cleaned up all the associated profiles a bit as well.  Next up:  Connecting James to his family in North Carolina.  I think my DNA clusters may be of use there if I can find a connection to either Jeremiah or Thomas's wife's family.

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Something to try...

Newton  Co. was formed in 1821 from parts of Henry/Jasper/Walton Counties.  If you are looking for records for 1820 or before,  try each of those countries.   Also, if you haven't tried them yet try Georgia Virtual Vault website (Georgia Archives ) and Georgia Historic Newspapers GALILEO  (University System of Georgia )
by Cherry Duve G2G6 Mach 3 (31.1k points)
Thank you!  I just discovered the Georgia Archives last night and haven't found anything relevant yet but I'm still looking.  (I did stumble across the pension file for one of Elizabeth's sons, so that's useful and I'll add it to his profile.)  I'll look at the newspaper archive as well.

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