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The Native Americans Project identifies, adds, sources and tracks WikiTree profiles of Native Americans who lived in what is currently the boundaries of the United States. (See The First Peoples Project for other areas.) 

We also seek out and track the mythological claims about Native Americans that make their way onto WikiTree. 

If you're interested in or otherwise researching Native Americans, please consider joining The Native Americans Project.

We now ask everyone who wants to join to please share a profile you've created or edited that demonstrates your understanding of Wikitree editing generally, including Native Americans profile guidelines, research and sourcing. You must have been a member of WikiTree for at least 30 days, have made at least 100 contributions to WikiTree profiles and (if working on profiles of pre-1700 Native Americans) have successfully completed the Pre-1700 Quiz.

Still interested? Please post an ANSWER below sharing your specific area of interest (a tribe/nation, era or region, for example); please include a link to a profile you've worked on.

Jillaine
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in The Tree House by Jillaine Smith G2G6 Pilot (718k points)
I have one reasonably certain Native American line. My 10th great grandmother is Sarah Kenutze Hertel (of the Turtle Clan), born about 1619  near St Regis in the Mohawk Territory of Northern New York State, and died about 1700 in Rappahannock County, Virginia Colony. She married John Lambert about 1626 in Coulsdon, Surrey, England.

The story I've found is that Sarah's father is Jacques Hertel (1600-1651), a Mohawk trader who traded with both the French and English, and who made many trips to both London and Paris, taking Sarah along. Sarah met John Lambert, who was a secretary to Charles I on one of these trips and got married. When Charles was on the verge of losing his head it became prudent for the Lambert family to get out of England. They settled in Virginia.

My line comes down as follows: Sarah and John > John Lambert Jr. (1639-1700) and Sarah Lucas (1643-1700) > Elizabeth Lambert (1665-1756) and John Hackley (1655-1698) > Mary Elizabeth Hackley (1686-1750) and Thomas Warren (1682-1749) > Elizabeth Warren (1702-1744) and Jacob Brooks (1702-1774) > Priscilla Brooks (1725-1802) and John Lewis (1720-1802) > Stephen Lewis (1757-1792) and Susanna (1757-1792) > Susanna Lewis (1784-1866) and Peter King (1780-1821) > Ambrose Lewis King (1815-1888) and Hannah McGee (1819-1846) > William Calhoun King (1842-1906) and Anna Elizabeth Taggart (1848-1928) > Eva Lena King (1866-1928) and Willard Albert Andrews (1860-1922) > Lowell King Andrews (1919-2011) and Virginia Evelyn McFadden (1914-2002) > Me
Gail, you might want to start a separate g2g thread, ideally attached to the profile of your ancestor in question, to see if you can find help in confirming the information you have.

Thanks to the Native Americans Project for putting project protection on the profile of William Galloway "Indian Billy" Ice.  His profile still has problems, but the Project has provided a good source to refute the idea that Billy married a native woman and had many children with her, beginning around age 16 and ending around age 23.  Now, if we can just refute (once and for all) the idea that Billy's sister is the mother of Tecumseh...

Jillaine, I am in your camp. It took me 13 yrs to debunk the 100% Cherokee great great grandmother myth in my tree, and I sure angered several family members who wanted so much for the myth to be true. Sorry family--truth is better than fiction!
Thanks for this opportunity. I believe that Mary (Crow) Beall (Crow-2297), who is my 4th great grandmother, was a Cherokee from Upstate South Carolina. No documentable facts were found when I exhaustively researched her. My earlier research to prove/disprove the Cherokee connection included searching all the various Rolls, etc. but for Bell as it was before I had found Mary (Crow) Beall.

But, there is DNA evidence that one of my ancestors was Native American (ancestry.com admixture .19% and gedmatch.com .5%) which supports Mary being in the right generation; family stories are numerous regarding our Cherokee roots; and other cousins of this same family group also have these stories. I'm not sure if any of them have had their DNA tested.

At any rate, I'd like to join the group if it's okay that I'm not very active with it.

Thanks again!
Badge awarded. Thanks Beth.
Thanks so much!
My family tree includes three branches from Colonial Virgina,1600's.  John West, Henry Fox, and Capt. Raleigh Croshaw.  I have found quite a few documents to support this and would like to explore my Native American roots further.
Jennings,

There's no evidence that any of these men were Native American or married to Native Americans. You might want to start individual g2g threads for those claims, and discuss what sources you have to support them.

Does sound, however, that you'd be a good candidate for the US Southern Colonies project.

I have just added my first Native American profile and have zero idea how to categorise him.  Basically all I know is that he was listed as part Chippewa, and his paternal great-grandfather was Canadian (from Manitoba), and paternal grandfather was married in Lebret, Saskatchewan, Canada (which means not much, really).  

Any help, or advice, would be greatly appreciated.

.

(I also have zero idea how to find his Military Records, but that's a different question.)

You can add the Native American sticker to his profile, just after the Biography heading, like this:

{{Native American Sticker|tribe=Chippewa}}
Done.  Thanks for that, Kathie.
I am very interested my the Native Americans.  It is believed my grandfather was Cherokee, however, he was adopted so can find anything on him. Also, I keep ending with Totopotomoi and Cockacoeske but after much reading, it is very confessing. Would like to stay on top of this research.

MJG
Just an FYI that Totopotamoi and Cockacoeske have no known modern descendants.  They had no children as a couple.  Cockacoeske had one son but his wife left him and he had no known descendants.
I would love to be part of the Native American Project. My great aunt who researched the family told me we were of the Seneca and Onondaga.  Sadly when she passed a few years ago no one knows where her research papers when too.

I've DNA tested Gedmatch says .52  Ancestry doesn't show any.  I'm hoping to test my mom soon.

I have 4 gg grandmothers I'm unable to find anything on their lines.  I'm hoping to head to NY soon and see what I can find.  I've been told the secret lies in the Onondaga Cemetery.

Thanks Lisa

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https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Woodall-1151

Yes I am, from what I've read in the link you have sent me, I fall into the category of Mythological.  I put this up awhile back but have edited it.  If you read you will understand what is going on.  I also have a space page that I've started on him now it is posted on his profile.  It shows Native DNA distribution in the family, so I am trying to trace it.  Although he wouldn't talk much when people were around, he would tell me stories when I was young, I didn't understand all of it. I'd like to know more about what he was talking about then

by Susan Anonymous G2G6 (7.4k points)
NA badge added.  Welcome.
Thank you very much.    I look forward to this experience.

Have a great day
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I work occasionally in this area. I have Longan in my family and two sisters married into the Bluejacket and Captain families in eastern Oklahoma, both of which are eastern Shawnee:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bluejacket-4

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Captain-20

I've added a lot of profiles to the Bluejacket family:

https://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/BLUEJACKET

And descendants of Thomas Captain above.

I grew up in Oklahoma, and am familiar with its history.

Again, I only ever work occasionally in this area, though.

by Eric Weddington G2G6 Pilot (191k points)
Thanks, Eric; do you want to be part of the project?
Hi Eric and others, Bluejacket caught my eye as I have Van Swearingen families in my ancestry (my brothers with ydna significant match). I'm hoping that someone will correct the wikitree profile Swearingen-280 that has the early thought that Marmaduke Van Swearingen became Blue Jacket. It has been debunked through DNA.

Thanks!
Hi Jillaine,

Sure go ahead put me down for the project. Just realize that I'm probably more of an adjunct member.

Hi Beth,

Interesting that you should bring up Van Swearingen. This family also intermarried with Cresap multiple times. I am the manager of the Cresap Name Study.

For examples see Ruth (Swearingen) Cresap and her ancestors. 

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My late mother and maternal cousins have always maintained that we have a Muscogee (Creek) ancestor, who was a member of the Wind Clan of the Tama Tribal Town in Whigham Georgia. Wanting to make sure I wasn't chasing a myth, I confirmed it with a DNA test that states my 4th - 7th gg was full blooded Native American.  I am also admixed American with X2 haplogroup. There is nobody left on my mothers side of the family who knows who he/she was. While I have the names of most of my ancestors on her side, there are a couple wives that I am unable to verify where they came from and I suspect it is one of them. My reason for wanting to identify them, and for researching genealogy in the first place, is that I'm very interested in the specific culture and traditions of all my ancestors.
by Melissa Kautzman G2G Crew (350 points)
Melissa,

As I suggested to Gail H elsewhere in this set of threads, you may wish to start a new G2G thread, attached to one of your ancestor's profiles (one with the unverified wife/wives), and perhaps others may be able to help you in researching them.
Can you tell me which company did your dna test? I would like to have mine tested again. My gg-grandmother on both maternal and paternal sides was NA. I used Ancestry and they first told me I had no NA dna. When I confronted them they changed their story and said there was not enough NA dna samples in the SE to tell if anyone has a NA ancestor.

Hello Betty,

I did two, 23&me showed .6% na. CGI Genetics doesn’t specifically show na, but there was 4.9% admixed american, which I goes back to distantly related northsouth american populations, which I suspect
is from my na 4g grandparent. 

Melissa

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I believe my 7th grandmother was a Native American, brought to Quebec from the Missouri area as a slave by a French trader.  I don't know her name and I haven't opened a profile for her.  However, I have done what I could for her daughter, my 6th grandmother, who was born in Quebec.   Would love to hear anything you have to say about this profile and any tips you might have on where to get more information.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bisaillon-75

Bisaillon-75
by Mattie Coutts G2G1 (1.2k points)
edited by Mattie Coutts
Mattie, her baptism record says that the birth father is not known. So if Michel Bisaollion was her father, he's not admitting it on the baptism record. I would mark the father as nonbiological.  

I would recommend you research the Missouria tribe to see what you can learn about it. And also about their trading history with Canadian traders.  But given the era, I doubt you'll find further details of her origins.
Yes, the father is unknown, and it is marked non-biological on the profile, though I can only read this when I go in edit mode.  And I mention in the biography that her parentage is pure speculation.  There may be a better way to display this  more clearly?  I  found a notary record dated 2 months after Marie--Catherine's birth that Michels wife sold a slave. One can only imagine why his wife didn't want her, or did the family have more than one slave? And there are quite possibly more records out there.  I have read secondary references to Michel having fathered 2 children with 2 different aboriginal women, but haven't found any original records to support this, yet...  There may be a paper trail for the man who purchased the woman from Michels wife.  PRDH gives a death and burial dates for Marie-Catherine, though I don't know the source of this information and can't find the original record myself.

There were at least 7 tribes living in Missouri before the purge.  And that is just within the boundaries of the state today, and I don't know for certain if the mother had belonged to any of these tribes or had been brought there as a slave or prisoner from elsewhere, like Louisianna.   I have found a surprising amount of information about Michel on the Internet, which references a number of sources which I haven't seen myself, but could possibly be tracked down.  the profile is definitely a work in progress, and has been an interesting one because of the number of documents that have been preserved, particularly rare for an aboriginal woman living in the early 1700's.  I agree with you that combing the trading history may reveal more leads.  Thank you for your thoughts and suggestions!
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wikitree/wiki/Isa-Tai-1  

This man was a Comanche Medicine man, aka White Eagle.  The last name morphed to Eschiti.  This family settled in the South Central Oklahoma area, the are once called Comanche Indian Nation, now is Cotton County, Oklahoma.  This family married into my relatives, who are also Comanche, but White Eagle was the most famous. I am Lilly Martin.  I have a number of Native American relatives, including ancestors.
by Lilly Martin G2G1 (1.7k points)
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I have relatives who are Comanche.  The specific area is Hulen, Cotton County, Oklahoma both prior to statehood and after, up to present day. People in Ft Sill, Lawton, Comanche Co, OK.  Names are: wiki/Isa-Tai-1  (this is today Eschiti).  Also: wiki/Portillo-114  I would like to be a member of the group and be able to tag Comanche profiles.  I also have another tribe in the same area.  Best regards, Lilly Martin
by Lilly Martin G2G1 (1.7k points)
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I have a keen interest in exploring the Native American heritage of both myself and my husband. His great-grandmother was very proud of her Cherokee heritage, and that pride has passed down to the present day. Not too long ago my husband and I decided to have our DNA tested. He was very disappointed to find no Native American trace in his DNA (although other of his immediate family are positive)... and I was delighted to find Native American DNA in MY bloodline. Now I have a renewed interest in finding out more. Who were my ancestors? What were their lives like? How many of the "hints" on the genealogy programs are true, and which ones are fabricated?

I am writing to join the Native Americans Project because I want the truth. When I reached the profile of John Bryant (my husband's ancestor) on Wikitree, I realized I needed to join this project. Maybe there is something I can contribute along the way.

Please check out my profile for my husband's grandmother (Belew-256). I am relatively new to Wikitree, and still working to fill in our family tree and particularly the biographies.

In my own lineage, you will find Mary Mollie (Welch) Wilkerson (Welch-8394). Another line in my family goes back to John Amory (Hembree) and Mary Moore Ayers. I am still checking my sources to make sure I have adequate information before developing those profiles.

Thank you for your consideration!
by Betty Norman G2G3 (4k points)
You're added, Betty.  I don't see which ancestor was actually Native American or which tribe; let me know and I'll take a look and add the Native Americans sticker
Two of my Native American ancestors are Mary Mollie Welch (Welch-8394) and her daughter Sarah Wilkerson (Wilkerson-2362). They both had Cherokee blood.

My husband's family are descendents of John Bryant, Sr (1775-1856), and they believe they are Native American, but I see the controversy that fills his profile page, so I don't know how to proceed there.
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I have been doing research on Ancestry.  I believe I  am related to   Susana Barnett of the Creek tribe.  I have not transfered all my work yet, but am in the process.  Here is a profile I'm working on https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Huckaby-915.

Thank you

by James Owens G2G Rookie (290 points)
Looking good, James. I'm looking forward to seeing the sources for her specific birth date, marriage date (or is this estimated based on ages of children?) and death date.  

Also looking forward to seeing the trail back to your Creek ancestor.  Maybe one or more of us can help you get there.
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My first time here and recent member of WikiTree and find it interesting.  My ancestor's have traced back to "Rock" (Abenaki), husband of Outchibahabanoukouehou.  Their daughter is Marie Olivier Silvestre Manitouaeewich also of the Abenaki Tribe.  She was born 10 Sep. 1615 in the Abenaki Nation, Hateau Richer Montmorency, Quebec, Canada.  Her descendants go down through Provost, Mailhoit, Ferriol, Almaw.  I am presently registered with the Nulhegan Band of the Coosuk Abenaki Nation of Vermont, New Hampshire and Quebec.  I also have ties to the Wampanog Federation on my Paternal side.
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Hi Jordan,

It appears that this is one of those times where two projects may be involved. The Native Americans project covers profiles of Native Americans who lived in what are now the United States.  Those who lived in what is now Canada are covered by the First Nations project.  You could pick one or the other, or join both.
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I am very interested in sorting out the myths versus facts of my lineage, which seemingly includes both. Using DNA and documentation, I have been able to verify that John David "Jackie" Benge is my 5th ggf. It can be extremely frustrating to find multiple accounts for him and his family, so I really want to help clean things up.

In addition, I have other lines, including Runyon, Carpenter, Keith, Murray, and obviously Stewart, which is all intertwined with Native American connections.

Myself, siblings, our children, and 1st cousins have all tested with Ancestry and uploaded our Autosomal results here, FTDNA, My Heritage, and GEDmatch. I am also currently awaiting the results from my Y-111 from FTDNA.

I'm retired from the Army and my OCD just wants to ensure that everything truly is correct.

Thank you!!!
by Randee Stewart-Clark G2G Crew (820 points)
edited by Randee Stewart-Clark
Thanks for your interest, Randee.  I've given you the project badge.  I see you've also found and proposed some Merges of duplicates.  Thank you.
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When I found that Maiden Maquaes LaBattie (LaBattie-2) is my 10th Great grandmother I was intrigued given that her birthdate is listed as 1613 in New York.  I did some research and found that "Maquaes" was what the Dutch settlers called the Native tribes in their area.  I sent this information to the site managers and they added the information to the Biography.
by Mary Shelley Hough G2G3 (3.6k points)
+2 votes

I am interested in the Native Americans project.  I am a descendant of the Shawnee and possibly Cherokee as well.  As an example of a profile I have edited, please see Reuben Rutherford.  Please accept my request to join this project.  Thanks.  

John

by John Williams G2G6 Mach 1 (18.2k points)
Nicely done. Extensive. Welcome to the Native American project.
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My Name is Jim Barnes Standingbear, I am Shawnee and my family comes from the Hathewekela band of Shawnee, I am interested in working on all my roots and any Tribal work for tribes on the eastern coast. Please accept my request to join this project

Rodgers-2323

Hathewekela-1

Rodgers-1062
by Jim Barnes G2G Crew (500 points)
edited by Jim Barnes
Welcome, Jim. I'm going to send you a private message. Please check your email In the next day or so.
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I realize this last post was in 2019 but for all of you in the ongoing Native American project here's a nifty source which you may or may not already have (which is being posted here in case of the latter scenario)   :-)

Douglas-Lithgow, R.A., M.D., LL.D. "Dictionary of American-Indian Place & Proper Names in New England" pub 1909 The Salem Press Co., Salem, Mass.

http://archive.org/details/dictionaryoffamer00doug/page/n8/mode/2up
by Leigh Anne Dear G2G6 Mach 3 (33.1k points)

Leigh Anne, the URL doesn't work. Says: 

The item you have requested had an error:

Item cannot be found.

which prevents us from displaying this page.

My apologies Jillaine. The copy/paste function has never worked for me in G2G so copying by hand is my routine. I almost chopped off my middle index finger the other week when clipping a bush and it appears that finger still doesn't work right... Try this:

https://archive.org/details/dictionaryofamer00doug/page/n8/mode/2up/search/Dictionary+of+American-Indian+Place+%26+Proper+Names+in+New+England?q=Dictionary+of+American-Indian+Place+%26+Proper+Names+in+New+England

Whew.

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