Proposal to disconnect Susannah Susan "Patsy" Fields Maness from current parents [closed]

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Susannah Fields Maness (Fields-1638) cannot be the daughter of the Cherokee woman Susannah Emory (Emory-136) and her white husband Richard Fields (Fields-988).  

The Cherokee Susannah Fields was born about 1780.  She married two white men, George Brewer and Thomas Foreman and was the mother of 15 children, born between 1800 and 1826:  Aky Brewer, and Samuel, Nellie, Charles, William, Joseph, Sally, David, George, Thomas, Susan, James, Edward, and Elizabeth Foreman.  [see Eastern Cherokee application # 8004, Eliza Horn.  Image at: https://www.fold3.com/image/221334217, also Starr, Emmet.  History of the Cherokee IndiansOklahoma Yesterday Publications edition, Tulsa, OK.  1979. pp. 306, 310, 363-364.  Digitized edition at https://archive.org/details/historyofcheroke00lcstar/page/n5.]

This family was Removed to Indian Territory in 1838 over the Trail of Tears in a detachment led by Hair Conrad and Thomas Foreman. 

Susannah Fields Maness was a much older woman.  She appears to be the wife of Revolutionary War soldier Seth Manis, DAR Ancestor # A073377.  Seth’s pension application, filed from Tennessee, does not name a wife or children.  DAR records list wife "Patsy" and several children, born in North Carolina between 1780 and 1800.   

The 1840 census for Hawkins County, TN shows Seth Manis, age 70-80 and a woman, also age 70-80.  "United States Census, 1840," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHYL-TXX : 18 August 2017), Seth Manis, Hawkins, Tennessee, United States; citing p. 235, NARA microfilm publication M704, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 526; FHL microfilm 24,546.

WikiTree profile: Susan Maness
closed with the note: Closed - parents detached
in Genealogy Help by Kathie Forbes G2G6 Pilot (843k points)
closed by Kathie Forbes
Sorry for the font problem, I wrote on Word and copied and just can't get it to behave.
Sorry for my confusion. I edited the disputed origins section to further clarify the situation.  The rest of her profile is still problematic.

Was Susan (Fields?) Maness still Native American -- whoever her parents were? There is reference to her returning to the Cherokee nation after the death of her husband.
No Susan Maness was a completely unrelated white woman, parents unknown.  Edited bio to replace pronouns with names for clarity.  From what I could find Susannah and Seth Maness died in the 1840’s, several years after Cherokee Removal.
Thanks, Kathie.  

So "Fields" is inaccurate? There is a vague reference on her profile To a marriage record.  Is there really one?
I don't know what her maiden name was.  There's a supposed marriage  record on an Ancestry index for Susan Field and Seth Manes, but if you look at the source it's just an LDS family group sheet.  It says they were married in Tennessee but the DAR records that you can see on-line list children born in North Carolina and it looks like the family didn't move to Tennessee until long after they were married - on census in North Carolina in 1790, on tax list in Tennessee in 1810.
A review of Seth Maness' profile indicates that there was a letter or other document by a grandson that provided the maiden name of Fields for Seth's wife, calling her Patsy Fields.

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