Searching for Amy Ogden (1865) Manchester, England

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Amy Ogden was allegedly born (*23 Nov 1865) in Manchester, England. She was the wife of John Daniel Malmström (*7 Feb 1868) Hällestad, Sweden and the mother of Isabella Malmstrøm (*22 Mar 1905) Alingsås, Sweden.

Any information that can shed some light on her origin and how she ended up in Sweden is most welcome. 

  SOLVED    A big Thank You! to everyone who participated.

Fact: Amy is the daughter of John Ogden (*22 Aug 1820) and Eliza Kershaw (*24 Feb 1828) of Manchester, England - Married on 26 April 1848 in Manchester

Siblings: Alfred (*1860) Malmö - Eliza Annie (*2 Aug 1861) Malmö - Bertha (*16 Jul 1863) Malmö - Mariana (*26 Mar 1870) Förs/Malmö

WikiTree profile: Amy Ogden
in Genealogy Help by Lars Hachmann G2G4 (4.5k points)
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There was an Amy Ogden birth registered in Chorlton district in June quarter of 1865, mother's maiden name Dolphin (see https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp, needs a free account registration to view).  Too early for a 23 Nov 1865 birth, but if the date you have isn't quite right for some reason it might be her.  Lancashire Online Parish clerk website has two christenings that might be relevant, one for Amy Ogden 30 Apr 1865 in Rusholme, Manchester (presumably matching the birth registration) - her parents were Samuel & Mary Ann Ogden, and her dad was Manager at Bombay Paper Mill.  The other for Amy Barnes Ogden on 14 Jan 1866 in Gorton, her parents were John Ogden & Eliza and her dad was an engineer.  The daughter of Samuel & Mary Ann was still single and living in the Manchester area by 1881 (see https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27G-R84C, needs registration of a free account to view).  There's no sign of a death registration for Amy Barnes Ogden in childhood in England/Wales.  Hope that's some help.  Amy Barnes Ogden would fit the birth date you've got quite well.  Registration of a birth wasn't compulsory until 1874, so her birth may not have been registered.
by Corinne Morris G2G6 Mach 1 (17.1k points)
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There were three other children of John and Eliza Ogden christened at the same church (St Mark's, Gorton), all on 8 Apr 1866 - Alfred Burness Ogden, Bertha Burness Ogden and Eliza Annie Burness Ogden.  They may have been older brother and sisters of Amy Barnes Ogden who the parents hadn't had christened at birth for some reason.  The transcriptions on FamilySearch give their middle names as Barnes rather than Burness, so either might be correct and it might be the mother's maiden name.  I can't see the family in the censuses.

Here is Amy with her parents John and Eliza and her siblings, including the Bertha and Eliza Annie for whom you found baptisms, all living in Sweden:

"Sweden, Household Examination Books, 1880-1930," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLPZ-RG5C : 28 August 2019), Amy in entry for John Ogden, from 1886 to 1890; from "Sweden Household Examination Books, 1860-1920," database and images, MyHeritage (https://www.myheritage.com : n.d.); citing from 1886 to 1890, 6966428, Sankt Petri AId48, various Lutheran parishes, Sweden.

John and Eliza married on 26 April 1848 in Manchester. The FamilySearch record on https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJT7-LXQ doesn't give much detail and just gives Eliza's surname as also being Ogden.

The image on Ancestry, free-to-view at https://www.ancestry.co.uk/sharing/18308546?h=ba9374, is much more informative. Eliza was a widow when she married John (who was a widower) and her father's name was Edward Kershaw (which matches the census linked above). I would guess she may have been married to a brother or cousin of John, although it may just be a coincidence that her married name was the same as his.

From the marriage record John was an engineer. He may well have moved to Sweden to work on an engineering project, although of course that is just speculation.

It fits the Swedish 1880 & 1890 census data.smiley

There is no sign of any Alfred in the Swedish documents.

It looks like Alfred Barnes Ogden married in Devon, England in 1889:

"England, Devon, Parish Registers, 1538-1912," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCS4-BBJ : 4 November 2017), Alfred Barnes Ogden and Jessie Joslin, 1889, Marriage; from "Church of England parish registers 1538-1911," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing Devon, archive reference , images provided by FamilySearch International.

In 1901 he was serving in the Royal Navy:

"England and Wales Census, 1901," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X91K-HDK : 21 May 2019), Alfred Barnes Ogden, England, United Kingdom; from "1901 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing subdistrict, PRO RG 13, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey.

He died in Devon, England on 17 February 1917:

"England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2JWY-NGW : 31 December 2014), Alfred B Ogden, 1917; from "England & Wales Deaths, 1837-2006," database, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Death, Devonport, Devon, England, General Register Office, Southport, England.

and

"England and Wales, National Index of Wills and Administrations, 1858-1957," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPLD-2T8M : 17 September 2018), Alfred Barnes Ogden, 7 Mar 1917; citing Probate, Devonport, Plymouth, Devon, England, United Kingdom, Her Majesty's Stationery Office, Great Britain.; FHL microfilm .

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After performing a quick search on Ancestry, It appears that Amy and her parents moved to Sweden around 1900 before marring and having children.

This is based upon my locating census information for Amy and her parents until Abt. 1900 where they began popping up on the Swedish census and, eventually, Amy was a Malmstrom.

It looks like this just may be the connection your asking about... :-)

~Brian Kerr
by Anonymous Kerr G2G6 Pilot (309k points)

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