I have hit a Brick wall with Annie Johnson (Johnson-89319) and her parents

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I have hit a brick wall with Annie Johnson (Johnson-89319) I have her married in Blaina, Wales with the marriage certificate stating her Farther's name as Charles Johnson (painter Journeyman, Deceased).

Family rumour states she was Italian and her real first name was Mary?  Annie the sister was supposed to have become a Nun and Mary took on her sister Annie's name.

I have found no evidence to back any of this up.  Annie and her sister where apparently in the Nazareth home in Cardiff.  I sent a letter asking for information but never received a reply.

Any help pointing me in a direction that I have not already tried to find her birth details and her sibling and parents would be a massive help.  We have tested the DNA of the Grandson and Great granddaughter but so far no connections identifying her or her Ancestry

WikiTree profile: Annie Davies
in Genealogy Help by Tracy Cousins G2G Rookie (190 points)

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I found Elizabeth with her mother Annie in the 1939 Register. It gives Annie's date of birth as 1st October 1887 which might be useful and Elizabeth's marriage date as 4 September 1943. One anomaly I noticed is that the register has Elizabeth's date of birth as 23 December 1918 when other sources have it 1917. I've seen several off-by-one errors in the 1939 register before so this isn't a huge problem. I see an Elizabeth Davies with a mother's maiden name of Johnson born in Q1 1918 Bedwellty which fits with Dec 1917 and the register just being wrong.

Just to be sure that's the case, how do you know that Annie's maiden name was Johnson?

Looking for Charles Johnson (Annie's father) I came across Charles Underwood aka Charles Johnson, painter, whose master-criminal activities (stealing cheese for example) might explain why Annie and her sister were in the Nazareth House. I really like this candidate because I didn't include "painter" when searching for his name.

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=TNA/CCC/2B/HO140/00487290

by Matthew Fletcher G2G6 Mach 9 (95.3k points)
edited by Matthew Fletcher
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familysearch.org has her mother as Ada Johnson. Annie born Portsmouth in 1887. Her father is Charles Johnson and others in the 31 March 1901 household in Islington, London, England include Herbert Johnson, Mabel Johnson, Arthur Johnson and George Wilson.
by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.2m points)
Thank you for the possible pointers.  I ha e looked at the two suggested but can find no evidence yet these are the Annie and Charles I have in my tree.

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