Sarah Carey Jenney Who Are Your Real Parents?

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I recently saw a discussion on Ancestry about Sarah Carey Jenney parents. The theory was that she was actually the daughter of John Carey 3rd Baron of Hundson. The thread posters had some ideas on the matter. I am asking it here because I am very much a newb to these things and I deeply respect Wikitree members  accuracy and proffessionalism. I want to state for the record, I do not want to be from Henry 8 at all. I have a very impressive pedigree without him.  I want the truth to pass on to my grandkids. I endeavor to not pass on fallacies to my grands

1) the book written in the 19th cent on this has been proven to be bogus.

2) Jenney is an old family. In those people did not marry outside of their station.  There is a word for it I forget what it is. In England the Crown had the right to approve or disapprove of a marriage as marriages were also political structures.

3) A man claims to gone to England and stated that there were exactly 0 Sarah Careys born in the appropriate time period who lived to adulthood

4) There is an Ann Carey listed as a daughter who supposedly married a Lovell yet there are no records. .Given that both are old Nobles families of means, there would have been a record. The Crown would have to have approved of it

5) There are no parents listed for Sarah Carey in the Marriage Banns. Again, marrying outside of caste

6) Gentlewomen never traveled alone. Who is this Miss Lyons?

8) The theory goes that Sarah is actually Ann  and changed her first name due to be disowned (due to taking up with separatist Quaker or some thing)OR she is Sir John's illegitimate daughter

I am matching to Boleyn and Tudor via DNA. My sourced Tudor lines are old Twdyr. That doesn't seem strong enough for me to match Henry 8. I admit I am still a tad confused as to how accurate the matching is but I am thinking 1000 yrs is a bit long to have a strong match to Henry 8.
WikiTree profile: Sarah Jenney
in Genealogy Help by Aislinn DeWeston G2G Crew (430 points)
This is not in response to your main question, which interests me because I am a descendent of Sarah. But concerning DNA — autosomal DNA can only very rarely be used to confirm farther back than 4th great grandparents, and almost never past 7th. So the timeframe you are discussing is too far back.

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The identification of "Moncksoon" as Monks Soham is probably correct - I can't suggest anything better - but not absolutely certain. If she was from Monks Soham then there are no surviving parish records as explained in the introduction here

Many other parish registers only survive from the 1600s so it's not surprising that no baptism for Sarah survives. Unless some hitherto overlooked source turns up then we're never going to know who her parents were. There is a fairly recent book on the Leiden puritans which might be worth consulting for any trace of Sarah: Strangers and Pilgrims, Travellers and Sojourners: Leiden and the Foundations of Plymouth Plantation by Jeremy Bangs.

All the other theories you mentioned from ancestry are, of course, complete nonsense. Why would anyone change their name from Ann to Sarah as a result of being disowned but keep the same surname? The king's approval wasn't needed for anyone's marriage, particularly not a brewer from Norwich.

by Matthew Fletcher G2G6 Mach 9 (96.8k points)
edited by Matthew Fletcher

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