Brick wall Bateman - seeking clues from people who lost a Bateman in the 1800s

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Jacob Bateman, named as my great-great-grandfather, is a paper ghost. [Bateman-3049]  

He married Mary Bauer of Clayville, New York (central NYState area) [Bauer-5002]. That's all I have for location clues, I have no basis for an opinion on whether they stayed there in NY or went somewhere else.

He is named as father on the marriage records for two of his children, Charles William Bateman [Bateman-3045] and Anna G Bateman [Bateman-3046].

He is mentioned in Mary's obituary. Bad news though - Mary also vanishes from records for a time: She's seen as Mary Bauer on the 1st of June 1875 living with her father in Clayville, still single - but not found again in records until the 5th of December 1894, when she's pregnant and in a poorhouse as Mary Bateman in the same county as her hometown.

I have searched a LOT for this man, and have searched in a wide variety of ways. Primarily through the Ancestry site, but also on FamilyTree, fultonhistory.com (newspapers), and random other places as I went along. Spelling variations, international, military, etc etc - lots of search variation. All for naught. I've also tried to search for just Mary and the kids, and other combinations. But I'm no professional at this, and I'm sure I'm not tapping resources I could. 

Based on my great-great-grandmother's obituary, which supplies dates in a "x years ago" format, I derive dates of 1877 for the marriage, and 1885 for his death. These are probably fairly good, but it is an obituary and family tellings are not always accurate.

We can safely assume a birth year which will at the latest be about the same year as his wife. Though not impossible for a younger date, it would be pretty unusual. But to estimate the opening of a birth-year window, we should probably allow a 30-year age difference, which would not be unheard of.

That leaves us with a birth year bracket of about 1830 to about 1860.

That all said, I am wondering if anyone working on Batemans in the USA has 'lost' a Bateman with a first or middle name of Jacob that might be the same vintage?

Would love to hear from you if you did, or from anyone else with clues/hints on how I might find him.

Thanks for reading,

Drew

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Familysearch.org has this, which has both parents as German born

"New York, County Marriages, 1847-1848; 1908-1936," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XVPD-BV4 : 28 March 2019), Jacob Bateman in entry for George N. Marsh, 1 Aug 1912, New York, United States; citing ref. ID 1455 P 731, county clerk offices from various counties, New York; FHL microfilm 381,752.

by Marion Poole G2G Astronaut (1.1m points)

That was fast!!!

And my apologies - I already have Charles' marriage record and Anna's 2nd marriage record, both naming Jacob as the father. That one you posted is Anna marrying George Marsh, her 2nd husband.

I'll add that to the question so nobody else duplicates my efforts. Sorry.

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Oh, regarding the German origin from the marriage record:

I am aware of that, but am a little skeptical - mainly because of the surname Bateman, which is English/Irish. Obviously a German origin can't be ruled out, either, but I don't want it to be taken as a given at this stage.

Bateman might be the anglicised version that he adopted when he emigrated.

Any thoughts on what German name might translate/equate to Bateman? 

Off the cuff

Beitzman, Bitteman,

If you check the variations button for the surname when searching, it might come up with more

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