Is this fellow a notable?Does anyone know more about him.

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Hi I am working on profiles for the Boloco Cemetery and this fellow just popped up. He has his own Wikipaedia page and is described as an Australian Public servant, Diplomat and Poet.Any help with him to round out his profile and add parents would be much appreciated.
WikiTree profile: John Rowland
in The Tree House by Jeanne Pepper G2G6 Mach 1 (11.5k points)

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Yes, he is a notable. Ambassador to France among other accomplishments. Thanks for bringing to my attention. I will be adding him to Rowland Name Study.
by Ron Rowland G2G6 Mach 2 (23.3k points)
selected by Jeanne Pepper
Thats great Ron, and thanks everyone for your input.. Very helpful.
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Jeanne, To answer your first question, Yes he would qualify as a Notable on WikiTree, he has a Wikipedia page. I am not very good with Australian profiles but maybe someone else can jump in and help his profile out a bit, I did add the Notables Sticker for you.
by Dale Byers G2G Astronaut (1.7m points)
Thanks Dale so much for your help.I'm never confident enough to declare some one a notable without a second opinion.

He now has a father thanks to Peter Jones and I'm currently trying to find his mother, but unable to find a marriage.
And quite apart from Wikipedia, he has "AO" after his name. I can check out the "Its an Honour" site, but I will leave research to you, Jeanne.
Thanks Doug.

His mother's name was Elsie Jean Wright, born 1881 in Queensland.  She died in NSW in 1961.

https://www.familyhistory.bdm.qld.gov.au/details/35b1522d400eec1aca768d7492673f9f5c6b6bb75939b52bed674237a9ae7369

Elsie Jean Wright

Event date: 14/01/1881

Event type: Birth registration

Registration details: 1881/C/5493

Mother: Charlotte May Mackenzie

Father/parent: Albert Andrew Wright

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ROWLAND ELSIE JEAN

1289/1961

ALBERT ANDREW

CHARLOTTE MAY

SYDNEY

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Sorry for the way it looks,  Pasting to G2G is a roll of the dice.

He was a diplomat, according to his bio.  He was awarded the AO for his services as Ambassador to France:

https://honours.pmc.gov.au/honours/awards/885204
Elsie had 5 siblings, 4 older and one younger.  I won't post the source information for them here, because of how G2G renders the paste.

I still haven't found a marriage, either, but it might have been as early as before 1913, as the military record (for Louis Claude) dates from then (unless the NoK was updated for the 1939-1945 war - in which case the wedding would have to be before the first child's birth (or they never married)).
The Wikipedia rule had me thinking.  South Australians wanted me to add John Boykett (Boykett-16) added to Wikitree's biography database, but his death certificate and obituary have his birth details completely wrong.  His father, who migrated to Adelaide, but died 3 years later, was important in the fight for recognition of Nonconformists in England (see my project at www.douglaidlaw.net,) but has no individual page.  I put him in a footnote at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_rate, which I can no longer see there.  If I created a stub on Wikipedia, would he become a "notable?"  IMO, that is a matter for the English to decide.
Anybody can create a Wikipedia page. Usually there's people (or bots) that are looking for new pages and making sure it's really notable, not a vanity page. They will delete pages that are not deemed important enough.  But some might slip through, or exist from earlier days.  I know of at least one person on Wikipedia who has certainly done things with his life (bank executive, served on the board of a couple local non-profits, etc), but I wouldn't call him a notable in the grand scheme of things.
Rob, The fact remains that the Notables project has made having a Wikipedia page the minimum, and easiest to prove, standard for a profile to have the profile become part of the project. There are other ways to include profiles that require more work but as long as the Wikipedia page exists for the person profiled or the other conditions are met then they are deemed to be Notable as far as the project is concerned.
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Be interesting to see if he is a grandfather or relative to Michael Rowland (ABC Morning News)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Rowland_(news_presenter)

by Roger Davey G2G6 Mach 3 (35.7k points)
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John Rowland is an orphan profile - should it be adopted by the Australia Project?

https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/886732/would-you-like-to-join-the-australia-project

by Jo Gill G2G6 Pilot (165k points)

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