WikiTree G2G - Recent questions tagged giffard

Birth Year question

Wed, 27 May 2026 16:21:41 +0000

Could his birth year be 1230 rather than 1130. This shows he is born before his father.

Can a Pre-1500 Certified member merge Gifford-674 into Giffard-64

Sun, 01 Dec 2024 02:31:51 +0000

The requested merge is going the wrong direction. Looks like Giffard is the LNAB.

Thank you!

More on The Bullock, Malthouse Montague lineage from the sixteenth century

Thu, 06 Jul 2023 16:31:18 +0000

By using the link

https://dara.theimmutable.net/index.php

and typing in ...... Bullock

an article is available to further a discussion on the sixteenth century relationship between the Bullock, Malthouse and Montague families. by using some up to date primary sources and clearing away some of the misconceptions, a realistic connection between these families can be created

Pre-1500: Pls add Gifford-40 to Giffard-639

Fri, 04 Feb 2022 18:54:15 +0000

Pls. could someone with Pre-1500 certification add Gifford-40 (Thomas Gifford 1460-1511) and Langston-4 (Joan Langston) to the profile of Giffard-639 (Thomas Giffard 1481-1550) as his parents. All profiles are well sourced.

Also, pls add the birth year of Giffard-639 which is about 1481, based on the source which indicates that he was abt. 30 when his father died in 1511.

Source: "Lipscomb, George, The History and Antiquities of the County of Buckingham, Volume 3, p. 131-132, 135" p. 131-132 p. 135 Google Books (accessed [3 Feb 2022])

Kind regards, Anna

"Can a Pre-1500 Certified member merge Giffard-74 into Gifford-2187?"

Fri, 24 May 2019 09:40:00 +0000

Thank you!

Giffard line needs pruning and organizing

Tue, 05 Feb 2019 19:12:58 +0000

At present we have Elias Giffard +bef 1248 with two daughters, Maud and Matilda, one of whom marries the other's grandson. As both women marry Godfreys and have sons Peter, the one surnamed Bolbec probably got confused with the other and became attached to the same parents. It's certain that Alice Bavent was Maud's granddaughter as per the ipm of her cousin of the half blood, John Giffard, taken in 1327 and that Matilda married the Godfrey who was sheriff of Wilts in 1258.

I'm suggesting amputating Maud from the Giffard family. Given the duplication of Godfreys and Peters, it's possible that there never were two Godfreys and Peters, but it's hard to say. In any case if both Godfreys married Mauds, the latter women could not have been sisters.

British history online has a Godfrey Scudamore "probably dead by 1190" succeeded by a Peter (son or other relation?) who was succeeded by a Godfrey (again no specified relationship) who held it to at least 1262. This would appear to be Matilda's Godfrey, but was he the same as the earlier Godfrey or a different one? Then there's a son Peter succeeding by 1267. But the succession was not necessarily a straightforward father to son to grandson one as the lands were forfeited, reallocated, and reinstated at various times so more data would be helpful to sort out the relationships.

p.p1 {margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 11.0px 'Lucida Grande'}

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=16080

Can a name be updated in the pre 1400 era.

Sat, 28 Apr 2018 10:53:48 +0000

1st Earl, Lord Walter Giffard was born as Gauthier Giffard.. his father was Osbern de Bolbec. I found many links on Geni.com saying that Rohese Giffard's father was Gauthier. Not one site had him as Walter.

By searching I found that they are actually one in the same.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauthier

Could someone please add this info to a Pre-1500 profile

Thu, 04 Jan 2018 01:30:26 +0000

I'm adding info for the cemetery St Hieritha's Church Burial Ground, Chittlehampton, Devon. I have photos and some info for the profile of Roger Giffard. If someone could please add the tags for the following categories:

Category: St Hieritha's Church Burial Ground, Chittlehampton, Devon

Category: Chittlehampton, Devon

also the following info:

Giffard Chapel - St Hieritha's Church, Chittlehampton, Devon, England
The imposing monument on the North wall was erected 3 years after the death of John Giffard(d.1622) whose effigy is the large recumbent figure. The monument commemorates 5 generations of Giffards. John's grandfather (Sir Roger, d.1547) is commemorated by the medallion on the left. Roger married Margaret Coblegh of Brighley. Their son John(d.1585) is commemorated by the medallion on the right.
This John married Mary Grenville and it is their son John in whose memory the monument is erected. Their son Arthur married Agnes Leigh of Northam, but died in 1616. As a result their son John inherited the estate.
Arthur is the kneeling figure on the left and his son John(who erected the monument) is the kneeling figure on the right.

Also the sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brightley,_Chittlehampton

and

[https://books.google.com.au/books?id=ayswAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA296&lpg=PA296&dq=pawley+cornwall&source=bl&ots=DhXt3nlssy&sig=VB55Z137o-HpwfUQllr02FdhH4Y&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi0k4PsnLrRAhWEJ5QKHVhCDPoQ6AEIKDAB#v=onepage&q=Giffard&f=false Nicholas of London, page 293-295]

Need help! Jeffords Family dead-end.

Tue, 02 Jan 2018 17:57:05 +0000

My ancestor [[Jefferds-Jeffords-1|Ann Hopeful Jeffords Davis]] has been linked to father Nathan Jr. in Rush, NY but I can find no birth records for such. She may in fact be a "Gifford", or a daughter of "Obadiah Jefferds and Rebecca Fox" in Ohio, New York, according to one suspect source [https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89066038845;view=1up;seq=11]. The 1855 New York Census for Ann Hopeful Davis indicates a niece "Harriet Jefford" living with the family. That gives me hope that the Jefford surname and family connection is legit, but I am stuck trying to find Hopeful's parents from original or official, verifiable sources. The surname is spelled at least 6 different ways, which make it hard to find her. Thanks!

Are Bertha Clifford (Clifford-315) and Bertha FitzRichard (FitzRichard-92) the same person?

Fri, 15 Sep 2017 10:22:42 +0000

Why does FitzRichard-92 have the surname Giffard if she has no children or spouse by that name?

Are there any sources for this person(Clifford-315)?

Fri, 15 Sep 2017 10:04:21 +0000

Where does her LNAB come from if her father was A FitzPons and her mother a FitzWalter? Just curious as she is my 22greats grandmother.

Project of European Aristocrats or Nobility

Wed, 06 Sep 2017 14:03:17 +0000

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Giffard-450

I think this profile should be added to the European Aristocrats or Nobility, but I am not a participant of that project.

Anyone interested?

Zoe

Did any Giffards emmigrate to New Zealand?

Sun, 11 Dec 2016 09:23:00 +0000

Can a Pre-1500 Certified member merge Giffard-431 into Giffard-26

Sun, 07 Feb 2016 02:31:29 +0000

Gunnor and her sisters

Mon, 16 Nov 2015 13:27:19 +0000

Supposed to have unknown parents, but you'd never think it.

Apparently Duke Richard was out one day and took a fancy to a passing noble lady called Senfrie, but she was married, so he asked her if she had a sister, as you do, and she had, and the rest is history, even if that bit wasn't.

These people all have duplicates waiting to be despatched the WikiTree way.

But this Wikipedia page reckons Osbern was the son of one of Gunnor's sisters (names are confused) and I'm having trouble with the dates on that.

Proposed changes for a domesday generation figure

Fri, 25 Sep 2015 10:06:41 +0000

I request feedback on two suggestions for the profile of the man who was the paternal grandfather of William Marshall "the Marshall" (a Magna Carta surety baron and known as the "perfect knight"). As far as I can see, unless there are sources I am not aware of, these changes are logical and straightforward but on the other hand I know some people will feel strongly about this family, which is a prized ancestry for many.

1. Gilbert's last name at birth should be changed to Giffard. Actually people did not normally have last names at birth then but in terms of ANY type of second name, no primary or secondary source I am aware of calls him "Fitz Geoffrey". Giffard is the only second name I think he is known by. Fitz Geoffrey is apparently someone modern's way of enforcing a theory about who his father was because it simply means "Fitz Geoffrey" but we do not know who his father was.

2. He should be disconnected from the father we have for him. There are publications which speculate about who Gilbert was related to, but these are always presented as speculative speculations, not relationships which are just a bit imperfectly proven. I think this level of speculation should be mentioned in the text, but not presented as any kind of widely approved relationship?

Of course if anyone has published sources to justify another approach that would be very interesting, but as far as I know this is a question which the best historians and genealogists of this period have specifically ruled on and described what we do NOT know. Should we ignore them?

Andrew

Are the birth and death dates for Elias 1 Giffard correct,if so that makes him about 108 years old on death

Thu, 27 Mar 2014 14:15:33 +0000

Philip de Seton b. 1135, Mother Janet GIFFARD born 1210.

Thu, 30 May 2013 12:13:55 +0000

Is there Evidence for the Parents of Gilbert "the Marshall"?

Tue, 30 Apr 2013 02:30:32 +0000

I can find no reliable source showing the parents of Gilbert "the Marshall." FMG shows no parents. There are about 6 Gilbert's, most with parents. I propose to disconnect the parents of Marshal-29, make him an HSA, add a Note of Disputed Parentage to his biography, and merge all the other Gilberts, without parents, into Marshal-29.