"Her ffather's name was Edward Bagley, a man of good account as to worldly Rank. He dyed some fifty years ago. Her mother became a Friend and so continued until her death. She remayned a Widow all her Dayes, which was some thirty years after her husband's decease."
Disproved Royal Ancestry
A royal ancestry can frequently be found on the internet where Edward Bagley is said to be the grandson of Edward Sutton, 5th Baron Dudley. This was disputed in an article in The American Genealogist and is almost certainly incorrect. [6]
Edward's father, John Bagley, received a grant from Lord Dudley along with Robert Dudley and George Guest. Robert Dudley was a known illegitimate son Lord Dudley, and George Guest was the husband of an illegitimate daughter. Elizabeth Tomlinson, the mistress of Lord Dudley by whom he had 11 illegitimate children, left a bequest of £30 to this Edward Bagley and then made him an executor of her will. The reasonable assumption then was that John Bagley had married one of the illegitimate daughters of Lord Dudley by Elizabeth Tomlinson.
However, Charles Hansen in his TAG article points out that in the will of Elizabeth Tomlinson, Edward Bagley is called nepoti ex matre which he translates as "nephew through his mother." Therefore, John Bagley did not marry the daughter of Elizabeth Tomlinson, but had married the sister of Elizabeth Tomlinson. This breaks the supposed royal descent which would have run through Lord Dudley.
Sources
↑The American Genealogist, vol. 71 (1996): 36-48. Ancestry of William and Ann (Bagley) Brinton, by Charles M. Hansen.
↑The American Genealogist, vol. 71 (1996): 36-48. Ancestry of William and Ann (Bagley) Brinton, by Charles M. Hansen.
The American Genealogist vol. 71, no. 1 (January 1996): 36-48. The Ancestry of William and Ann (Bagley) Brinton: Quaker Immigrants to Pennsylvania, by Charles M. Hansen. AmericanAncestors.org LINK
Schoonover, Janetta W, Gilbert Cope, and Ellen S. Brinton. The Brinton Genealogy: A History of William Brinton Who Came from England to Chester County, Pennsylvania in 1684 and of His Descendants, with Some Records of the English Brintons. (Trenton, N.J: Press of MacCrellish & Quigley Co, 1924): 60, 96-104.
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NYGN-FX2 : 30 December 2014), Edward Bagley, 18 Oct 1602; citing SAINT EDMUND,DUDLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 477,645.
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Someone named Edward Bagley married someone named Anne Gregorie in Manchester UK.
This Edward Bagley and his wife Olive lived 80 miles south of Manchester in Dudley, Worcestershire, just as his father did before him.
I think it's not a good assumption that these are the same man unless you have another record to connect Edward Bagley of Worcestershire with Manchester.
Also why call her Anne on her marriage record and Olive on her children's baptisms? I would like to disconnect barring additional evidence they are the same person.
Name Anne Bagley
Gender Female
Burial Date 20 Oct 1711
Burial Place St. Peter, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
Father's Name Edward Bagley
Citing this Record "England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J8QT-M87 : 9 February 2018), Edward Bagley in entry for Anne Bagley, burial 20 Oct 1711; citing St. Peter, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,040,905.
Name Edward Bagley
Gender Male
Christening Date 18 Oct 1602
Christening Date (Original) 18 OCT 1602
Christening Place SAINT EDMUND,DUDLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
Father's Name John Bagley
Citing this Record "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NYGN-FXL : 11 February 2018, John Bagley in entry for Edward Bagley, 18 Oct 1602); citing , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 477,645.
This Edward Bagley and his wife Olive lived 80 miles south of Manchester in Dudley, Worcestershire, just as his father did before him.
I think it's not a good assumption that these are the same man unless you have another record to connect Edward Bagley of Worcestershire with Manchester.
Also why call her Anne on her marriage record and Olive on her children's baptisms? I would like to disconnect barring additional evidence they are the same person.
Name Anne Bagley Gender Female Burial Date 20 Oct 1711 Burial Place St. Peter, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England Father's Name Edward Bagley Citing this Record "England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J8QT-M87 : 9 February 2018), Edward Bagley in entry for Anne Bagley, burial 20 Oct 1711; citing St. Peter, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,040,905.
Name Edward Bagley Gender Male Christening Date 18 Oct 1602 Christening Date (Original) 18 OCT 1602 Christening Place SAINT EDMUND,DUDLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND Father's Name John Bagley Citing this Record "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NYGN-FXL : 11 February 2018, John Bagley in entry for Edward Bagley, 18 Oct 1602); citing , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 477,645.