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Elizabeth (Unknown) King (abt. 1645 - 1708)

Elizabeth King formerly [surname unknown]
Born about in Ipswich, Essex, Massachusetts Bay Colonymap
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married 5 Feb 1672 in Ipswich, Essex, Massachusetts Baymap
Wife of — married 12 Nov 1694 in Swansea, Bristol, Colony of Massachusetts Baymap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 63 in Swansea, Bristol, Province of Massachusetts Baymap
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Disputed Origins

Elizabeth's origins are unknown. No sources tying Elizabeth _____ who married Clement King, and then Thomas Barnes have been found. Elizabeth Baker daughter of John Baker and Elizabeth Unknown Baker was baptized in 1633 in England, and traveled with them to New England. However, no further information for her has been found. Sources that show that John Baker's daugher, Elizabeth, who was born in 1633 had no further information after the family's arrival in New England: Ancestry of Priscilla Baker, Family of Zaccheus Gold of Topsfield, Pope's Pioneers of Massachusetts.

Sources that show Clement King's wife, Elizabeth's last name at birth was unknown include: King Genealogy... gives Clement's wife's name as Elizabeth _______; Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island gives her name as Elizabeth ______; New York Genealogical and Biographical Record gives her name as Elizabeth _______; Lineage book of the National Society of Daughters of Founders and Patriots of America shows Elizabeth's last name as Unknown.

Only two sources have been found that show even the possibility that Clement King's wife's name was Baker: Torrey's New England Marriages before 1700 shows Clement's wife's name as Elizabeth [?Baker], referencing, among other sources, Tingley. Lastly, Raymon Meyers Tingley shows Elizabeth Baker, born about 1645, daughter of John Baker, as having married Clement King, but he provides no sources for that information. Furthermore, no births were found for Elizabeth Baker, daughter of John (or even without a father's name), anywhere in Massachusetts, between 1637 and 1650.


Biography

Birth

Birth:
Date: 1645
Place: Ipswich, Essex, Massachusetts, USA[1]

Marriage

Elizabeth Baker's 2nd husband was Rev. Thomas Barnes, pastor of the 2nd Baptist church, at Swanzey, Mass. [2]

"BARNES, Rev. Thomas & Elizabeth (BAKER) ?KING, w Clement; 12 Nov 1694; Swansea {Tingley-Meyers 32; King (,3) 8; NYGBR 43:295 -- Elizabeth ____; Austin: GDRI 15, 117} "[3]

Death

Death:
Date: 10 Dec 1708
Place: Swansea, Bristol, Massachusetts, USA[1]

Inventory

Her estate consisting of 112 L's 7Q and 10d; lands, wearing apparel, beds, wax, bay berry, cash, & etc. Administration was given to her eldest son, John King of Providence. Inventory of Estate was taken 27 DEC 1708 Swansea, Bristol, MA. [4]

Research Notes

Only one source has been found showing Elizabeth, wife of Clement King and Thomas Barnes, was the daughter of John Baker.[5]. This source is well known for its inaccuracies with respect to other families. Every other source other than Torrey which cites Tingley (refer to Disputed Origins section) showed Clement King's wife's last name was Unknown.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Source: #S-2125230066 Page: Birth year: 1645; Birth city: Ipswich; Birth state: MA. Note: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=genepool&h=5015333&ti=0&indiv=try Data: Text: Name: Elizabeth BakerBirth Date: 1645Birth Place: Ipswich, Essex, MADeath Date: 10 December 1708Death Place: Swansea, Bristol, MA APID: 1,4725::5015333 NOTE: This source is from Family Data Collection - not recognized as a quality source
  2. Journey Across Plowed Ground, Elizabeth M. Edmunds (Rutland, Vermont, Academy Books, 1974).
  3. Torrey’s New England Marriages Prior to 1700. (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2008.) Originally published as: New England Marriages Prior to 1700. (Boston, Mass.: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2015.)
  4. King Genealogy Clement King of Marshfield MA; George Austin Morrison Jr, King Genealogy Clement King of Marshfield Massachusetts 1668 & His Descendants (Munsells and Sons Publishers, Albany NY, 1898) page 8
  5. Tingley, Raymon Meyers, Some ancestral lines : being a record of some of the ancestors of Guilford Solon Tingley and his wife, Martha Pamelia Meyers, published 1935. Reference pages 30-32

Acknowledgments

  • WikiTree profile Baker-4647 created through the import of Sprague Family Tree.ged on Nov 3, 2011 by John Sprague. See the Changes page for the details of edits by John and others.
  • Thank you to Robert Stafford for creating WikiTree profile Baker-8659 through the import of Full.ged on Mar 3, 2013.

Click to the Changes page for the details of edits by Robert and others.






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Removed disputed parents John Baker and Elizabeth (Unknown) Baker based on sources in disputed origins section
posted on Baker-4647 (merged) by S (Hill) Willson
Profile Managers: After careful review of all available sources, I have added a Disputed Origins section to this profile showing that there are not quality sources showing that Elizabeth Baker is the woman who married Clement King, and instead, her name should be changed to Elizabeth Unknown. Plentiful sources show Elizabeth ______ and Clement King's marriage info, as well as her subsequent marriage to Thomas Barnes.

Profile Managers: Would you please change her last name to Unknown? Or if there are other quality sources that show the last name of Elizabeth who married King and Barnes, would you please add them to the profile?

Thank you.

posted on Baker-4647 (merged) by S (Hill) Willson
edited by S (Hill) Willson
The birthdate in the bio - 1633 - makes her 58 years old when son Thomas is born. It also makes her about 39 when she first married. Very doubtful.
posted on Baker-4647 (merged) by S (Hill) Willson
edited by S (Hill) Willson
At least one source (although it's a "book" source) says Elizabeth, no further record. Since the estimated birth information on these profiles is much later and in Massachusetts. Is this the correct Elizabeth or an Elizabeth of convenience? Is there a source that says the wife of Clement King and Rev. Thomas Barnes was the d/o John Baker? Found a source (see bio), although it seems a stretch to me.
posted on Baker-4647 (merged) by Anne B
Elizabeth was born England - her baptism already on notes. I see the entry 18 Aug 1633 St Peter Mancroft Ref. Norfolk Record Office; Norwich, Norfolk, England; Reference: PD 26/1 image 49 - one page from that of her brother John in 1634

Birth and place need to be adjusted on this profile. And marked PGM

posted on Baker-4647 (merged) by Beryl Meehan
Baker-8659 and Baker-4647 appear to represent the same person because: Dates and locations of birth and death plus spouse all match
posted on Baker-4647 (merged) by Ros Haywood

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