John Brim (abt. 1644 - bef. 1709)

Born about 1644 in Stoke Gabriel, Cheshire, England

Ancestors

Husband of Mary (Dabney) Meacham — married 15 Nov 1674 in Christ Church, Middlesex, Colony of Virginia

Descendants

Died before 1 Feb 1709 before about age 65 in Middlesex, Colony of Virginia

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Biography

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John Brim migrated from England to Virginia.

John Brim^[1] or Brame was born about 1616 (others say, without source, 1640), possibly in Stoke, Cheshire, England. Military Service: Bacon's Rebellion

He emigrated to Virginia by 15 Nov 1674 when he married at Christ Church, Middlesex, Virginia Colony Mary Dabney^[1] by whom he had:^{[citation needed]}

• Richins Brame
• Alice Brim
• Johannah Brame
• Nicholas Brim
• James Brim
• Mary Brame
• Thomas Brim
• Peter Brame
• Ann Brim
• John Brim
• Mary Breame

Estate of John Brim

^[2] Middlesex County Court 5th of March 1710/11. Upon the motion of [torn] MEACHAM and MARY his Wife the Relict of JOHN BRIM, deced. administration upon the Decedent's Estate is granted to them giveing security, JOHN BRISTOW became their security and they acknowledged their Bond in Court which is admitted to Record

^[3] Middlesex County Court 3d of February 1712/13. BRAME v BRAME's Admrx, dismist. In the action upon the Case between NICHOLAS BRAME, Plt. and MARY MEACHAM, Surviveing Administratrix of JOHN BRAME, deced., Defendt neither party appearing, ordered the action be dismist

^[4] The Estate of JOHN MEACHAM deced who was lately one of the Adminrs. of the Estate of JOHN BRAME deced is Dr. To paid JOHN ALLDIN by Judgmt; paid WM. STANARD; to Sheriffs fees; to Mr. HARRY BEVERLEY a generall fee, to NICHO. BRAME, to THOMAS HILL; to Tobacco paid Col1o. CORBIN; to EDMD. HA.MERTON; to CHA: LEE; to MR. SEGAR; to CAPT. WORTHAM; to halfe of the ballance of 1362 Tobo returned in the Inventory came to hands of said deced Meacham; to paid to the Widows part of Brames Estate; paid NICHOLAS BRAME, paid ELIZA. SOWELL, paid MARY SEARS. paid JOHN BRAME, paid ALICE BRAME; paid RICHINS BRAME, to JOANNA BRAME; to THOMS. BRAME; to JAMES BRAME; by 2 hoggs sold WM. GARDINER not inventoryed In Obedience to an order of Middlesex Courtda.ted the 8th day of July 1713 Wee the Subscribers mett at the house of James Meacham. and there examined stated and settled aH account and differences between James Meacham Executor of John Meacham who was lately one of the Admors, of john Brame deced and Mary Meacham ye surviving Adminx. of said John Brame deced a.nd we have allotted the Orphans of the deced Brame their parts of the said Brames Estate and we doo award that Mary Meecham surviveing Administn of said john Brame deced give the said James Meacham Executor of said john Meacham Estate a full discharge from the said James Brames Estate and wee doe also award that the several! orphans above mentioned give the said Mary Meacham Surviveing Administratrix a full discharge for their parts of their deced Fathers Estate. Given under our hands this 25th day of July 1713. Oliver Segar Robt. Daniell John Owen 0713) At a Court held for Middlesex County the 4th day of August 1713 The above account and re port is admitted to record ^[5]

Research Notes

2017: By Robert Ellis. The following is from my 2005 paper on the ancestors of Hallie Dell Williams [and needs confirming with original sources]:

"John Brim was born in about 1644 in Stoke Gabriel, Devonshire, England to Nicholas Brend and Ann Bogin. Just when he immigrated is not clear, but he was living in Middlesex County, Virginia by 1674 when he married Mary Dabney...

"John Brim married Mary Dabney on 15 November 1674 in Christ Church Parish, Middlesex County, Virginia. (Christ Church Parish and Middlesex County were one in the same.) They were neighbors of John Richens, and must have been quite found of him because they named one of their sons in his honor. That son, Richins Brame, is the ancestor of interest to this paper. ...

"John Richens’ influence probably brought John Brim into Bacon’s Rebellion on Bacon’s side. In the final days of the rebellion, Richens and another friend named George Hooper encamped with John Brim on the property of a Major Lewis, and made off with a considerable amount of clothing as well as some livestock and grain. In the aftermath of the rebellion, Lewis hailed all three into court, and Brim was fined twenty pounds Sterling.

"John and Mary had at least eight children (up to eleven according to some sources). As stated above, (Hallie's) ancestor was Richins Brame. (Richins and some of his siblings began spelling their surname Brame, not Brim.)

"John and Mary were noted in an essay about the hard life in Middlesex County in the 17th Century because they were an exception to the rule-they survived long enough to see all their children reach majority. Darrett B. and Anita H. Rutman wrote in their essay “Now-Wives and Sons-in-Law”: Parental Death in a Seventeenth-Century Virginia Count:

“A traveler to Virginia in the late 1680s noted that he had ‘met few old people’; in the same decade John Clayton, Virginia’s scientific parson, wrote that ‘if the English live past 33 they generally live to a good age’ but ‘many die between 30 and 33;’ and William Fitzhugh, writing in 1687, when he was thirty-six, looked upon himself as in his ‘declining age.”

“Middlesex’s first generation was an immigrant generation; evidence of birth dates…is scattered though the records of older counties and in England… yet enough material on the first and second generations (those born through 1710) has been gathered… We can hypothesize Middlesex’s median couple, a highly idealized concept, we stress… Presuming that, both husband and wife, the marriage was a first marriage, he would have just turned 24, she just 20….they would have between four and six children, perhaps one of which would die in infancy… Four or five would survive, however…The wife of this median marriage could be expected to die at 39… The husband, 43 at the death of his first wife, would probably remarry almost immediately and have still other children. But he could be expected to die in turn at 48.”

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1} Christ Church Parish, Virginia Births, 1653-1812; Ancestry.com : 2000
2. ↑ 1710-1712 Middlesex Co Va Order Book 5, [Antient Press]; Page 1
3. ↑ 1712-1714 Middlesex Co Va Order Book 5, [Antient Press]; Page 106
4. ↑ 1709-1720 Middlesex Co Va Deed Book 3, Part 2 [Antient Press]; Page 310-311
5. ↑ https://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I127653&tree=Tree1

See also:

• Sources for 2005 paper:
  1. ) Eng. Genealogist VI, 2:
     • Abstract: ...the immigrant ancestor of the Brame, Brim, and Brimm originating out of Middlesex County, Va, was John Brim (abt 1644, Devon, England - abt 1710, Middlesex County, VA)
     • Son of Nicholas Brim & Anne Bogin. Born c. 1644 in Stoke Gabriel, died c.1710 in Middlesex Co., VA.
     • Married Mary Dabney on 15 Nov 1674 in Middlesex Co., VA. Children: Nicholas; Mary; Elizabeth; Mary (2nd); Anne; John; Richins; Johannah; Peter; Thomas; James; & Alice. Note: Thomas and James spelled last name Brame. Nicholas and Richins may have spelled it Brame.
  2. ) Eng Genealogist, VI, 2: Quoting Middlesex Co., records:
     • “1676 George Hooper was sumoned to answer to Major John Lewis the Plaintiff ...that George Hooper of this County came to the petitioner’s house about the 25th day of November last, in company with John Brim & others, And there did take and carry away of yr petioner’s goods to at least the value of four score pounds...Judgement is granted to the said Major John Lewis agt the said George Hooper...John Brim was sumoned to answer to Major John Lewis...Judgement is granted to Major John Lewis ast John Brim for the sume of twenty pounds Sterling...” Source: Middlesex Co., VA Court Order Book 1673-1694, p.80. Dtd 1 Oct 1677.
     • From “A Place in Time - Middlesex County, VA 1650-1750, by the Rutmans, pub 1984: The book discusses Middlesex men in support of Nathaniel Bacon during Bacon’s Rebellion of 1676 against Sir. William Berkeley, Gov of VA. “John Lewis of New Kent County lodged suits against a number of Middlesex men...who had quartered themselvs on his plantation, consuming ‘Three hoggs and two Sheepe...(and) a great quantaty of my Corne for themselves and horses,’ then carried off a variety of supplies for Ingram’s forces in Gloucester.” The Rutmans note that a John Richens was a partner of George Hooper in patenting some land in 1674, and that John Brim was a neighbor and close friend of Richens, and would name one of is sons Richens. This helps explain why Lewis brought Hooper and Brim to court for actions taken in Nov 1676 when they stole much wearing apparel from Major John Lewis during the final days of Bacon’s Rebellion.
• Ancestors of John Brame/Brim