Robert (Brus) de Brus
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Robert (Brus) de Brus (abt. 1051 - 1094)

Robert de Brus formerly Brus
Born about in Normandy, Francemap
Ancestors ancestors
[spouse(s) unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 43 in Cleveland, Durham, Englandmap
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Research suggests that this person may never have existed. See the text for details.

NOTE: This profile represents one fantasy proposal about the parentage of the real Robert I de Brus who came to England about 1100. This is not the profile for the real person.

The real first Robert is Brus-141.

He has been detached from Agnes (St Clair) de Braose (abt.1053-) as wife.

Sources


  • Blakely, Ruth M., "The Bruses of Skelton and William of Aumale," The Yorkshire Archaelogical Journal Vol. 73 (2001) (The Yorkshire Archaeological Society.), p. 20, Family History Library.
  • Carpenter, David X. (2013 version) ROBERT DE BRUS, Tenant in chief in Yorkshire and Annandale" on Charters of William II and Henry I Project
  • Clay, Charles Travis, "Brus" in Early Yorkshire Families (Leeds: Yorkshire Archaeological Society, 1973.), p. 8, Family History Library, 942.74 B4a v. 135. [Available on Ancestry.com]
  • Cockayne, Gibbs, et al. "Brus or Bruce" in Complete Peerage, 2nd ed., Vol.2 p.358 [Downloadable at Familysearch.org]
  • Sanders, Ivor John, "Skelton" in English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and Descent, 1086-1327 (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.), p. 77.
  • Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., "Rotbert De Bruis" in Domesday People: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents, 1066-1166 (Woodbridge: The Boydell Press, 1999.), p. 415,
  • Turton, William Harry, The Plantagenet Ancestry (Baltimore: Genealogical Pub. Co., 1968.), p. 140, Los Angeles Public Library, 929.721 P713Tu 1968 folio.

Additional Reading

  • Dictionary of National Biography, Oxford, 1904 (online version available Duncan, ODNB Brus [Bruce, Robert de (supp. d. 1094) 2004] Once thought to have been ancestor of Bruce family. Dismisses Leland's Collectanea as source as unreliable
  • Sherlock, Stephen. "Gisborough Priory: Information for Teachers" English Heritage. 2001. 1 Oct 2008.
  • Donaldson, Gordon, Scottish Historical Documents, Edinburgh, 1970, ISBN 7011-1604-8 :19, "David by the grace of God King of Scots, to all his barons, men, and friends, French and English, greeting. Know ye that I have given and granted to Robert de Brus Estrahanent (i.e: Annandale) and all the land from the boundary of Randolph Meschin; and I will and grant that he should hold and have that land and its castle well and honourably with all its customs," &c. This is a new charter and not a reconfirmation.
  • Burton, John Hill, The History of Scotland, New revised edition, Edinburgh, 1876, vol.1, p.437
  • Burke (1883) p.80, 504.
  • Foster, Joseph, The Dictionary of Heraldry - Feudal Coats of Arms and Pedigrees, London, 1989 (reprint of 1902 original), p.180-1
  • Richardson, Douglas, Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, Md., 2004, p.682, ISBN 0-8063-1750-7
  • Norcliffe, Charles Best, of Langton, MA., editor, The Visitation of Yorkshire in the years 1563-64 by William Flower, Esq., Norroy King of Arms, London, 1881, p.295.
  • Duncan, A.A.M., 'de Brus, Robert (I), Lord of Annandale (d. 1142)', Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Oxford University Press, 2004, doi:10.1093/ref:odnb/3748. Retrieved 28 October 2008.
  • Richard Oram, David I: The King Who Made Scotland , (Gloucestershire: History Press Limited, 2008), .
  • Ruth Margaret Blakely, The Brus family in England and Scotland : 1100-1295 , (New York: Boydell Press, 2005), .
  • Paget, Gerald, The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1977.), p. 155, Family History Library, 942 D22pg.
  • Watney, Vernon James, The Wallop Family and Their Ancestry (Oxford: John Johnson, 1928.), 1:164, Family History Library, 929.242 W159w.




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Everything in this profile is notoriously wrong in every aspect.
posted by Rod Piper
Aargh. Disappointed to find I've been working all morning on a fake person who's "son" is the real person. I will start moving and merging texts, but eventually I presume this one is going to be disconnected from the real people soon unless someone has a good reason not to
posted by Andrew Lancaster
Nice research work on this profile!
posted by Sheri (Petersen) Sturm
I agree. I've changed birth location.
Birth place of Northamptonshire is really weird. Implies his father came to England with the Confessor.
posted by C. Mackinnon
So is exactly this Robert? Wikipedia has nothing on this Robert de Brus and the earliest RObert that they have is Robert de Brus, 1st Lord of Annandale (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_de_Brus,_1st_Lord_of_Annandale) That article has that Robert as lived c. ?1078–1138, after this Robert, and "Robert is given by some Victorian historians as a son of Adam de Brus, by his spouse Emma de Ramsay."

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