Mabel (Unknown) de Mowbray (abt. 1156 - abt. 1219)

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Died about 1219 at about age 63 in Axeholme, Lincolnshire, England

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Note: See Research Notes for her LNAB (Last Name at Birth).

Biography

Mabel, "probably the daughter of William de Patri", was the wife of Nigel de Mowbray and mother of surety baron William de Mowbray,^[1] and died c1219.^[2]

Colin Flight, whose studies of early Kent have looked at the paths of inheritance of lordships in that area, has written:^[3]

The only explicit statement that Mabilia was Willelm Patric’s daughter occurs in the heading prefixed to Dugdale’s text of Mabilia’s charter for Southwark (reprinted as Greenway [Charters of the honour of Mowbray 1107–1191] 1972, no. 269), which was based on the excerpts copied by Augustine Vincent (d. 1626) from a cartulary which does not survive. Not unreasonably, it has been doubted whether this evidence can be trusted; but the author is sure that it can. The manor of Ash in Kent, which is known for certain to have belonged to Willelm Patric, descended later to Mabilia’s heirs; and Ryarsh has a similar history.

Research Notes

Most sources say her father is "probably" William de Patri (the daughter of Robert de Clare, or any Surety Baron). In September 2019, the Magna Carta Project changed her LNAB (Last Name at Birth) from Clare to Unknown and detached her as a daughter of Robert de Clare. The project then locked the profile (PPP). In May 2023, the project removed itself as a manager of the profile and unlocked it. Please do not change her LNAB without discussing the change first.

Records or modern publications mentioning other parents

It has been claimed, without evidence, that Nigel Mowbray's wife Mabel was the daughter of Roger de Clare.^[4]

The MedLands site by Charles Cawley states, "A manuscript record of the Mowbray family (many of the details in which relating to the early generations of the family are inconsistent with other sources) states that “filius Rogeri de Molbray primogenitus…Nigellus de Molbray” married “filiam Edmondi comitis de Clara…Mabillam”[925], but her supposed father has not been identified from other sources."^[5]

Sources

1. ↑ Professor Nigel Saul, Royal Holloway, University of London. William de Mowbray. (William de Mowbray, Magna Carta 800th biographies; accessed April 4, 2016)
2. ↑ James Tait and Hugh M. Thomas. "Mowbray, William de (c. 1173–c. 1224), baron." in Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. September 22, 2005. Oxford University Press. Date of access 2 Nov. 2020, ODNB (with subscription).
3. ↑ Colin Flight, "A list of the holders of land in Kent, c. 1120" Archaeologia Cantiana, 125 (2005), pp. 361–79 [1]
4. ↑ The entry in Marlyn Lewis's database for "Mabel de Clare" says she married Nele de Mowbray and cites the entries in Richardson's books for William de Mowbray (MCA III:198 & RA IV:178), "son and heir of Nele de Mowbray of Thirsk, Yorkshire, by his wife, Mabel." NOTE: Richardson makes no mention of Mabel's maiden name. The only information showing any source in the Lewis entry is her name - Mabel de Clare - but the sources cited for that only support that the given name of Nele's wife/mother of William is Mabel. This is a good example of Lewis citing Richardson for information that is not in Richardson. It is why Lewis's database is listed as unreliable by the Magna Carta Project (see the Project's Reliable Sources page).
5. ↑ Charles Cawley. William Mowbray, entry in "Medieval Lands" database (accessed 11 September 2019).
   • [925]: Dugdale Monasticon VI, Newburgh Abbey, Yorkshire, VI, Progenies Moubraiorum, hujus Abbatiæ Fundatorum, p. 320.

See also:

• Cawley, Charles. "Medieval Lands": A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families © by Charles Cawley, hosted by Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG). See also WikiTree's source page for MedLands.

Acknowledgements

• See the Changes page for the details of edits by Johanna and others.

• This person was created through the import of Acrossthepond.ged on 21 February 2011.