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Robert (Clifford) de Clifford (1305 - 1344)

Sir Robert "3rd Lord Clifford" de Clifford formerly Clifford
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Husband of — married Jun 1328 in Berkeley Castle, Gloucestershiremap
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Died at age 38 in Englandmap
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Contents

Biography

Birth and Parents

Robert de Clifford, 3rd Lord Clifford, younger son of Robert de Clifford, Knt., 1st Lord Clifford, and Maud de Clare, was born 3 November 1305.[1][2][3]
Robert served in the Scottish wars[1] and repaired the Castle of Skipton, which had been damaged during that time.[3]

Lands and Titles

Robert's father died in 1314 at the Battle of Bannockburn and his mother died before 24 May 1327.[3]
Robert was heir to his elder brother Sir Roger de Clifford, 2nd Lord Clifford. Sir Roger had been taken prisoner at the Battle of Boroughbridge and executed at York[1] on 23 March 1322 for joining the rebellion of Thomas, Earl of Lancaster.[3] Robert was restored in blood as successor by Edward III.[1] He had seisin to his mother's and brother's lands in 1327.[3]
Lands:
  • Appleby, Westmorland (father)[1]
  • Tarrant Rushton, Dorset (mother)[1]
  • Hart, Durham (father)[1]
  • Bridge Sollers, Herefordshire[1][4]
  • Shalford, Surrey[1][5]
  • Winderton, Warwickshire (father)[1]
  • Severn Stoke and Tenbury Wells, Worcestershire (father)[1]
  • Skipton in Craven, Yorkshire, etc. (father)[1]
  • the Vipont estates, inherited from his great aunt, Idoine de Vipont[3] in 1333[1]
Titles:
  • 3rd Lord Clifford, summoned to Parliament from 1327 to 1344[1][3]
  • Hereditary Sheriff of Westmorland[1]

Marriage and Children

In June 1328 at Berkeley Castle he married, as her first husband, Isabel de Berkeley, daughter of Maurice de Berkeley, 2nd Lord Berkeley and Eve la Zouche.[1][3] Robert and Isabel had three sons:

Death

Robert de Clifford died 20 May 1344,[1] aged 38.[3] He was buried at Shap Abbey, Westmorland.[1] His Inquisition Post Mortem by writ dated 30 May 1344 named his son, Robert, aged 16, as his heir.[6]
His widow, Isabel, married second to Sir Thomas de Musgrave (later 1st Lord Musgrave), before 9 June 1345 (date of pardon for marrying without the king's license). Isabel died 25 July 1362.[1][3] Richardson does not mention any children by her marriage to the Baron Musgrave.

Research Notes

Disputed Children

Two additional sons have been identified thepeerage.com (citing Burke's Peerage 107th ed.: see Robert de Clifford, 3rd Lord Clifford. Neither source is considered reliable by the Magna Carta Project (see the project's Reliable Sources page). These profiles have been detached as sons of Robert and Isabel
  • John
  • Lewis (see extensive research notes on Lewis' profile)
Other unsourced profiles have been previously disconnected as children of Robert and Isabel: Eleanor, detached March 2021; Joan Clifford Heton, disconnected August 2015; John Caltoft, disconnected August 2015; Margaret Clifford, disconnected/added as daughter of Robert's parents August 2015.

Sources

  1. 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 1.12 1.13 1.14 1.15 1.16 1.17 1.18 1.19 1.20 1.21 Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013), Vol. II, pages 243-244, CLIFFORD 11, Robert de Clifford.
  2. Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. (Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2011), vol. I, pages 504-506, CLIFFORD 7, Robert de Clifford.
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6 3.7 3.8 3.9 George Edward Cokayne and Vicary Gibbs ed. Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom. Vol. III: Canonteign - Cutts, 2nd edition. (London, 1913). Online at Archive.org, page 291: Clifford.
  4. "Tenbury Wells (Worcs.) and Bridge Sollers (Herefs.)" in Berkeley Castle Muniments at The National Archives website link.
  5. 'Parishes: Shalford', in A History of the County of Surrey. Volume 3, ed. H E Malden (London, 1911), pp. 107-111. British History Online, accessed 21 March 2021.
  6. J. E. E. S. Sharp, E. G. Atkinson and J. J. O'Reilly, 'Inquisitions Post Mortem, Edward III, File 75', in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem. Volume 8, Edward III (London, 1913), pp. 381-404, #531. British History Online, accessed 21 March 2021.
  • Weis, Frederick Lewis. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700. (Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2004). Online at Ancestry.com [$], Line 26, #31.
  • Lewis, Marlyn. Sir Robert de Clifford entry in Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors and Cousins website.
  • Wikipedia: Robert de Clifford, 3rd Baron de Clifford (unsourced as of 21 Mar 2021).
  • See the Wikipedia page for Brough Castle, which was in the possession of the Cliffords from the 1260s... "When members of the Clifford family came to Westmorland, they usually stayed at Brough Castle." (from Visit Cumbria)

Acknowledgements

Magna Carta Project

This profile was re-reviewed for the Magna Carta Project 21 March 2021 by Thiessen-117.
Robert (Clifford) de Clifford appears in a Richardson-documented trail from from the Levis/Need Gateway Ancestors (Samuel Levis, Hannah (Levis) Blunston, Sarah (Levis) Bradshaw, Mary Need and Joseph Need) to Magna Carta Surety Barons Hugh le Bigod and Roger le Bigod (vol. II, pages 221-223 NEED). This profile is also in trails identified by the Magna Carta Project from the Levis/Need Gateways to surety barons Saher de Quincy, John de Lacy, Gilbert de Clare and Richard de Clare. These trails were developed as part of the Samuel Levis trail to the Bigods by John Sigh and were badged in February 2020 by Michael Cayley. The trails can be seen in the Magna Carta Trails sections in the profiles of Samuel Levis and Mary Need.
Robert (Clifford) de Clifford is in a trail badged by the Magna Carta Project in September 2015 from Gateway Ancestor Robert Peyton to Magna Carta Surety Barons Richard de Clare, Gilbert de Clare, John de Lacy, and Saher de Quincy. These trails are set out in the Magna Carta Trails section of the Gateway's profile.
See Base Camp for more information about identified Magna Carta trails and their status. See the project's glossary for project-specific terms, such as a "badged trail".
For a list of all of Robert's Gateway descendants, see Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd edn, Vol I, p 176, footnote 110.




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I have taken the plunge and removed Lewis as son, expanding the research note on him slightly.
posted by Michael Cayley
Will the profile managers detach the non-son Lewis, the Lollard? Or explain what it is the hold up if there is work in progress?

It has been two months since the request and seconding below.

Thanks

posted by Isaac Taylor
looking at the Changes for Lewis Clifford-259, I found that Isabel has been removed before. Magna Carta Project guidelines support detaching Lewis Clifford-259 (no clear primary proof showing parent/child relationship of Lewis to Robert Clifford-1545 & Isabel Berkeley-5).
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
I propose that we disconnect the son Lewis. See his profile.
posted by Andrew Lancaster
update on all the children: John & Lewis have some support, & they've had information added to their listing in this profile (I marked their relationship to Robert & Isabel as uncertain; stronger evidence is needed). Joan Clifford-1141 & John Caltoft-3 will be disconnected unless information supporting them as children is forthcoming. The two Rogers are in a proposed merge. I added information and a note to Margaret's profile that I think she should be merged with Margaret Clifford-786, daughter of Robert & Maud de Clare.
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett