Odard (Cotentin) de Cotentin (abt. 1046 - 1096)

Born about 1046 in Normandy, France [uncertain]

Ancestors

Descendants

Died 1096 at about age 50 in Dutton, Cheshire, England

Biography

Name

• Odard (Lord of Dutton) ^[1]

1046 Birth

He was born about 1046 in Normandy, France ^[1]

This date is consistent with his being in battle 20 years later.

Parents

He was the son of Ivo de Sauveur, Viscomte Cotentin and Emma de Bretagne ^[1]

Disproven Existence of Yves St Sauveur

It has become clear that Ivo or Yves St Sauveur de Cotentin, who appears in some popular genealogies^[2] never in fact existed, and his existence is considered disproven. As a result, he has been de-linked from the following other profiles, which themselves may need further research:

• Parents: He has been shown as the son of Néel (II) de St Sauveur, Vicomte de Cotentin and his wife Adele de Brionne. However, Cawley cites only Leticie, Roger, Guillaume, Gerard, Emma, Bileldis, and Mathilde, but not Yves, as their children. ^[3]
• Marriages. He has been shown as the husband of Emme de Bretagne and Gisele de Beaumont, but as someone who never existed, he cannot have had wives.
• Children. He has been shown as the father of the following children, but as someone who never existed, he cannot have children, and therefore the link as parent and child has been broken. Further research regarding the parenthood of these persons is required:

1. Nigel (Cotentin) de Cotentin, born Cotentin 1043. Niel /Nigel de Cotentin, Lord of Halton, Constable of Chester; ^[2] Nigel (Cotentin) de Cotentin, born Cotentin 1043 ^[4] Nigel (B. Halton)^[1] Weber reports that Kay Allen referred to Ivo as father (with Emma of Brittany) of Neel/Nigel and Odard ^[5]Neel (Nigel) Constable of CHESTER , of Halton b: ABT 1043 in Cotentin Penninsula, Manche, Normandy, France (has children) Weber reports that Kay Allen, probably giving the "classic" view of Ivo's issue, states that Ivo was father of Nigel and alleged father of Odard. There are a lot of people that do not accept this due to a lack of evidence.^[5]
2. Odard Cotentin, born Normandy 1046. Odard, 1st Lord of Dutton; ^[2] Odard Cotentin, born Normandy 1046 ^[4] Odard (Lord of Dutton)^[1] Weber reports that Kay Allen referred to Ivo as father (with Emma of Brittany) of Neel/Nigel and Odard ^[5]Odard Lord of DUTTON b: ABT 1046 in Cotentin Penninsula, Manche, Normandy, France (has children) Weber reports that Kay Allen, probably giving the "classic" view of Ivo's issue, states that Ivo was father of Nigel and alleged father of Odard. There are a lot of people that do not accept this due to a lack of evidence.^[5]
3. Edward Lord Hasewall , born Normandy 1048. Edard, Lord of Heswall and 3 others ^[2]
4. [[Stockport-12} Waltheof Stockport]], born Stockport 1053.
5. Wolfric Hatton, born Normandy 1054. Wolfrid, Lord of Hatton; ^[2]
6. Wolfaith (St Sauveur) de Hatton, born Cheshire 1054. ^[4]Wolfaith de HATTON b: ABT 1054 in Cotentin Penninsula, Manche, Normandy, France (has children) Weber reports that Adrian Channing referred to Ivo as father of Wolfaith and ancestor of the FitzNigel family. ^[5]
7. Hooswyne (Horswine) Shrigley, born Normandy 1055.
8. Walmere de Hazelwall, born Hazelwall, 1057.

1066 Norman Conquest

Odard, also at times written as Udard, Hodard and Hudard, was one of five brothers (the others were Edard, Wolmere, Horswyne and Wolfath, a priest) recorded on the roll of the barons of Halton, who accompanied Nigell, a nobleman, when he came into England with William the Conqueror. Nigell gave the church of Runcorne to Wolfaith, and to Hudard he gave Weston and Great Aston (later divided into Aston Grange and Aston juxta Sutton).^[6]

Marriage

He married Alice Dutton about 1066 in Chester, England ^[1]

Hodard may have married the heiress of Dutton.^{[7] [8]}

1086 Lord of Dutton

The Domesday Book says in 1066 the free men, Edward and Raven, held Dutton (Duntune, meaning town on a hill^[9]) in Cheshire, and by 1086 earl Hugh held it and it had been split between three subtenants:

1. Osbern fitzTezzo (Osberne son of Tezzon, ancestor of the Boydells of Dodleston^[9]);
2. William fitzNigel; and
3. Odard who held the part formerly held by Raven.^[10]

William Fitz-Nigell, the second baron of Halton, gave Newton near Chester to the monastery of St. Werburge in Chester, together with the service of Hugh son of Hudard (that was Hugh de Dutton) in 1119.^[11]

1096 Death

He died in 1096. ^{[citation needed]}

Issue

Hodard had children:

1. Hugh, died at Kekwick, to whom Randle II, earl of Chester known as Gernoniis, confirmed the lands he inherited from his father that were held in capite, or immediately of the earl of Chester, circa the end of the reign of King Henry I of England,^[6] (reigned 1100-1135);
2. Gilbert, who with his brother Hugh, gave a mill at Walton, between Keckwick and Warrington, to the Augustinian canons at the priory of St. Mary at Runcorn which William FitzNeal founded in 1115 and was moved to Norton in 1134;^[12]
3. Rafe le Dispensator, the ancestor of the Despensers, was recorded in some pedigrees as another son of Odard and brother of Hugh;^[13]

Legacy

From Hudard all the Duttons of Dutton, the Warburtons of Arley, the Chedills, the Ashleys and the Duttons of Hatton nigh Warton in Cheshire are descended.^[9] Odard's son, Hugh, assumed the surname Dutton from the place of his residence.

Research Notes

Odard's Disputed Brothers and Ancestry

Chester's Pentice Cartulary copied in 1576
In 1576 documents, dated from 1175, important to the city of Chester because they recorded the rights and customs of the city of Chester and set legal precedents, both of content and form, were copied from the Pentice Cartulary, into the Black Book of which another copy was made during Mayor Henry Gee's term in 1539-40. Gee's book was again copied during Mayor Henry Hardware's second term in 1576. In Hardware's book, in the margin on folio 67, is written:^[14]

"The names of the foure bretherne which came with William Conqueror."

1. Neele Lord of Halton, constable of Cheshire.
   
2. Hodard Lord of Dutton, Marshall of Cheshire.
   
3. Edward Lord of Hawarden, Steward of Cheshire.
   
4. Gebard Lord of Doneham, Chamberlain of Cheshire.

Leycester published 1673
Leycester in Historical Antiquities quotes from the Monasticon Anglicanum, 2 pars, page 187:^[11]

Cum Hugone comite venit quidam nobilis, nomine Nigellus ; et cum isto Nigello venerunt quinque fratres, videlicet, Hudardus, Edardus, Wolmerus, Horswine, et Wolfaith : dictus vero comes Cestriae dedit praefato Nigello baroniam de Halton, ad quara pertinent novem feoda militum, et dimidium, et quarta pars unius feodi, et quinta pars unius feodi, nomine constabularii Cestrias ; et fecit eum mareschallum suum, ita quod quando dictus Hugo comes exercitum suum mitteret in Walliam, dictus Nigellus et haeredes sui in eundo praecederent, et in redeundo ciim exercitu ultiuii remanerent, lib. C. fol. 84, et ob hanc causam dedit praefatus Hugo comes dicto Nigello duo feoda militum in Englefeld citra Rothland ; et illam terram tenuerunt praefatus Nigellus et haeredes sui usque ad tempus Rogeri Hell.

Leycester then says "This Nigell, if we may believe Pecham in his Compleat Gentleman, pag. 189 (Peacham, Henry, and George S. Gordon. Compleat Gentleman 1634. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1906. p 195) was the son of Ivo (vice-comes or governor of Constantia in Normandy) by Emme, sister to Adam earl of Bretagne. Sed quaere (but query). Leycester also says Quaere if [Nigell is] of this family.^[11] He also says Odard and his brothers are probably not Nigell's brothers because then it would have been written "Quinque fratres sui" (his five brothers).^[6]

Sir Peter Leycester gives an abstract (p. 476) of a charter which confirms the earliest descents of the Dutton pedigree, which was In the possession of lady Kilmorey in 1649:^[11]

Hoc sciant Franci e. Angli, e. o'nes Cristiani, q'od ego Will'm. fili. Nigelli, Ranulfi comitis co'stabilari, e. Will'm. parit. fili, meus, i. die illa q'a visitavim. Hugone. filiu. Hodardi i. infirmitate sua apud Kekwic, reddidim. filio ej. Hugoni tota. terra, patris sui, qua'cunq. de me tenu't unqu'm ut illud de me e. filio meo firmit. co'cessu. teneret. Dedit mi. ipse Hugo fili. Hodardi lorica sua. e. suu. dextrariu ..... e. q' — da. e. filiu. ej. Hugo filio meo Will'mo palefridum quendam dedit e. nisum. e. huic rei testes ..... d fili. Unfridi, Will'm. Capellan. Radulf. del Voil, Will'm. dapifer. Rob't. fili. ..... Condi et fr's ej. Rob't. fil. Picoti, Rannulfus Venator, Ricardus fil. ej', Rob't. ..... fili. Pet', Rob't. Burell, Walter fil. Wacelini, Gaufrid. Ulsari, Gilleb'L fili. m' ..... el, Tomas fili. Pagani de Vilers, Ledolf. de Crocstun, Radulf. de Breartun, Oever de R.....a, Roger dapifer. de Barua, Will'm. filiu. ej. W'lgrim, Pad. de Neuton, Ascherill de P'stun, Ricard. de Mora, e. cet'i q'i aderant.

Lysons published 1810
Lyson says in Magna Britannia Vol II that Odard was the son of Yvron, viscount of Constantine without providing a source.^[15]

Foster's Visitation of York published 1875
In the pedigree of Eure, of Easby, Ingleby, Malton, &c, Yorkshire and of Whitton, co Durham, Fosters says, Odarde, the ancestor of the Duttons of Dutton co Chester, and his four brothers: Wlofaith vel [or] Wolfrid, lord of Hatton; Waltheof, ancestor of the barons of Stockport; Hooswyne vel [or] Horswine, lord of Shrigley, a priest; and Walmere, ancestor of the lords of Haselwall; were the brothers of Nigel, constable of Chester, premier baron of Chester, cousin and marshall to Hugh de Abrincis, and they were all sons of Ivon, Viscount of Cotentin and his wife, Emma, the daughter of Geoffrey, Count of Britany, by Hedwige, daughter of Richard I, Duke of Normandy, and sister of Alan III, Count of Britany.^[16] Foster says in the "Preface" he is indebted to John H Mathews, Esq, of Lincoln's Inn for the pedigree of the Lords Eure.^[17]

Odard's Sword

"I have feen the ancient Sword, called at this day Hudards-Sword, and is yet in the poffeffion of the Heirs of Dutton of Dutton, and for many Ages hath been paffed as an Heir-Loom from Heir to Heir for many Generations; and I have feen fome Wills of the Duttons, giving the fame as an Heir-Loom to the Heir by that name of Hudards-Sword, which by tradition received hath been conftantly preferved by the Heirs of that Family with great veneration, the like (I believe) cannot be shown by any Family of this County, or fcarcely in England. See in my Book, pag. 250. I fay not this to extenuate any Family, but "to fhew the Antiquity of this Family which hath been feated at Dutton even from the Conqueror's time to this prefent, and continued in the name of the Duttons, until in our days it devolved by a Daughter and Heir unto the Lord Gerard of Gerards-Bromley in Stafford-fhire." ^[18]

Debated Pedigree

Apparently, the Dutton pedigree was part of a heated debate as shown in the following notes:^{[19][20][21][22]}

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5} Jorge H. Castelli. Tudor Place. Eure Family Accessed Sept 15, 2018 jhd
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4} Geni. Ivo Yvron de Contentin not Vicomte de Contentin Added by:Tompkins on March 30, 2007; Managed by: Margaret (C) and 76 others; Curated by: Angus Wood-Salomon. Accessed Sept 15 2018 jhd
3. ↑ Charles Cawley. Foundation for Medieval Genealogy. Medieval Lands Database. Normandy, Avranches Néel (II) Vicomte de Cotentin Accessed Sept 19, 2018 jhd
4. ↑ ^{4.0 4.1 4.2} Wikitree Data Field, Not Otherwise Sourced
5. ↑ ^{5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4} Author: Weber, Jim Title: The Phillips, Weber, Kirk, & Staggs families of the Pacific Northwest Note: Source Medium: Ancestry.com https://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id=I03176
6. ↑ ^{6.0 6.1 6.2} Ormerod, Vol I, 1819 p 476, quoting Leycester, Peter. Historical Antiquities, in Two Books: The First Treating in General of Great-Brettain and Ireland : the Second Containing Particular Remarks Concerning Cheshire. London: Printed by W.L. for Robert Clavell, 1673.
7. ↑ John Paul Rylands, ed., "The visitation of Cheshire in the year 1580 made by Robert Glover, Somerset Herald, for William Flower, Norroy king of arms, with numerous additions and continuations, including those from the visitation of Cheshire made in the year 1566, by the same herald. With an appendix, containing the Visitation of a part of Cheshire in the year 1533, made by William Fellows, Lancaster Herald, for Thomas Benolte, Clarenceux king of arms. And a fragment of the Visitation of the City of Chester in the year 1591, made by Thomas Chaloner, deputy to the Office of arms", The Publications of the Harleian Society, XVIII, (London: Harleian Society, 1882), accessed 22 December 2015., https://archive.org/stream/visitationofches00glov#page/88/mode/2up pp.88.
8. ↑ https://archive.org/stream/magnabrittanicab02lyso#page/522/mode/2up p 523
9. ↑ ^{9.0 9.1 9.2} Ormerod, Vol I, 1819 p 475, quoting Leycester, Peter. Historical Antiquities, in Two Books: The First Treating in General of Great-Brettain and Ireland : the Second Containing Particular Remarks Concerning Cheshire. London: Printed by W.L. for Robert Clavell, 1673.
10. ↑ King's College London, "Domesday", The Prosopography of Anglo-Saxon England (PASE), (UK: 2010), accessed 8 December 2015, vill=Dutton .
11. ↑ ^{11.0 11.1 11.2 11.3} Ormerod, Vol I, 1819 p 506-7, quoting Leycester, Peter. Historical Antiquities, in Two Books: The First Treating in General of Great-Brettain and Ireland : the Second Containing Particular Remarks Concerning Cheshire. London: Printed by W.L. for Robert Clavell, 1673.
12. ↑ A P Baggs, Ann J Kettle, S J Lander, A T Thacker and David Wardle, 'House of Augustinian canons: The abbey of Norton', in A History of the County of Chester: Volume 3, ed. C R Elrington and B E Harris (London, 1980), pp. 165-171 http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/ches/vol3/pp165-171 [accessed 8 December 2015].
13. ↑ Ormerod ed Helsby, Vol I, 1882 p 643.
14. ↑ The National Archives Website: Discovery: ZCHB/2, Chester City Council Records, CITY OF CHESTER CARTULARIES, PENTICE CARTULARY; THE PENTICE CARTULARY C.1175-1212 [EXTRACT], http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/5c74ed0c-476e-4675-abfb-83a8f032a9fd#, accessed 23 December 2015.
15. ↑ Daniel Lysons, and Samuel Lysons, Magna Britannia; being a Concise Topographical Account of the Several Counties of Great Britain, II containing Cambridgeshire, and the County Palatine of Chester, (London: Printed for T Cadell and W Davies, 1810), accessed 22 December 2015., https://archive.org/stream/magnabrittanicab02lyso#page/522/mode/2up pp.523.
16. ↑ Foster, 1875 p 607
17. ↑ Foster, 1875 p ix
18. ↑ Remains, Historical and Literary, Connected with the Palatine Counties of Lancaster and Chester, Volume 80, p 396 [1]
19. ↑ Tracts Written in the Controversy Respecting the Legitimacy of Amicia, Daughter of Hugh Cyveliok, Earl of Chester A.D. 1673-1679, Part 1 [2]
20. ↑ Tracts Written in the Controversy Respecting the Legitimacy of Amicia, Daughter of Hugh Cyveliok, Earl of Chester A.D. 1673-1679, Part 2 [3]
21. ↑ Tracts Written in the Controversy Respecting the Legitimacy of Amicia, Daughter of Hugh Cyveliok, Earl of Chester A.D. 1673-1679, Part 3 [4]
22. ↑ The Legitimacy of Amicia, Daughter of Hugh Cyveliok Earl of Chester, Clearly Proved: With Full Answers to All Objections that Have at Any Time Been Made Against the Same [5]

See also:

• Joseph Foster, ed., "Additional Pedigrees", The visitation of Yorkshire, made in the years 1584/5, by Robert Glover, Somerset Herald; to which is added the Subsequent Visitation made in 1612, by Richard St. George, Norry King of Arms, with several additional pedigrees, (London: printed for the editor by Joseph Foster, 1875), accessed 11 December 2015, https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE112948&from=fhd .
• George Ormerod, "Containing the Introduction and Prolegomena, the County of the City of Chester and Bucklow Hundred", The history of the County Palatine and City of Chester compiled from original evidences in public offices, the Harleian and Cottonian MSS, parochial registers, private muniments, unpublished MS collections of successive Cheshire antiquaries, and a personal survey of every township in the county; incorporated with a republication of King's Vale Royal, and Leycester's Cheshire Antiquities, I, (London: Lackington, Hughes, Harding, Mavor, and Jones, 1819), accessed 8 December 2015, https://archive.org/stream/historyofcountyp00orme#page/n13/mode/2up .
• George Ormerod, Esq, LLD, FRS & FSA, "Containing the Introduction and Prolegomena, the county of the city of Chester and Bucklow Hundred", The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester; Compiled from Original Evidences in Public Offices, the Harleian and Cottonian MSS, Parochial Registers, Private Muniments, Unpublished Ms Collections of Successive Cheshire Antiquaries, and a Personal Survey of Every Township in the County; incorporated with a republication of King's Vale royal, and Leycester's Cheshire antiquities, 2nd Edition, Ed. Thomas Helsby, Esq, Vol. I, (London: George Routledge and Sons, 1882), accessed 8 December 2015, .
• Domesday People: Domesday book, By K. S. B. Keats-Rohan, p 307 [6]
• Was Odard, First Lord of Dutton, a Distant Relative of William the Conqueror? [7]
• Memorials of the Duttons of Dutton in Cheshire: With Notes Respecting the Sherborne Branch of the Family, p 1, I. Odard, the Norman [8]
• Warburton of Arley Charters: The archive comprises charters and other documents concerning the ownership of property, plus some letters and receipts, relating mainly to the Dutton and Warburton families and their Cheshire estates, from the 12th to the 18th centuries. [9]