Thomas Nathaniel Edwards (1635 - 1698)

Born 17 Oct 1635 in Llangyfelach, Wales [uncertain]

Ancestors

Descendants

Died 1698 at about age 62 in New York [uncertain]

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� Profile represents Thomas Edwards married Elizabeth Hael (Hall)

Discrepancy

Date Variation - Source to Source Discrepancy

Name Variation -

Edwards, Edwardes; Haelo; Hall; Hael (Hall)

Robert Edwards (aka Robert Haello, Robert Thomas, Sir Robert, "Captain Robert" etc )

Cuellin, Cuelinis Cullen, etc

• No Verified Middle Names etc.;

Most "early" information is a result of Family Trees reportedly from family papers and bibles relating to Edward Heirs claims. (where thousands of people tried to prove they were descendants) (p.90. 101, 109, 111, 161) (Affidavits, but no Bible References given)^[1][2]

There is a great deal of conflicting information – Several Source-to-Source discrepancies; co-mingling, Lack of records; conflicting family stories; number of same names, No Middle Names Verified, etc.;

• Ancestors and Descendants are questionable because of the "Edwards Estate Scams"
• Sources are suspect -- There does not appear to be any exact civil or parish records found which positively establish parents
• Denbigh Wales does have some records supporting birth dates for several individuals - but No Parent information found to connect parents to children; No Bible Sources located; No Will Located

AKA

Thomas Edwards, referred to as "The Old Ship Master" (presumed to have been ship owner and Captain -- No other information located to prove/disprove)

Captain of the ship "Society"

"Captain of the ship "Society", was married in 1660 to Elizabeth Hael (Hall), dau. of Thomas Hael (Hall); About 1662 a son, Robert, was born," ^[3]

• Reportedly, On November 20, 1642, William Kieft, then Dutch Governor of New Amsterdam, made an original grant to Thomas Hael.(m. Mary Druery)

Supposedly On November 6, 1674, title to Hael's original grant, was confirmed to Thomas Edwards as husband of Elizabeth, (only child of Thomas Hael), by Edward Andros, Colonial Governor of New York.] ^[4]

Master of the ship "Retorne" of Boston

Thomas Edwards, Master of the ship "Retorne" of Boston. Signed up indentured servants between July 12 & Aug 7, 1678. Six servants were indentured to buy their passage to America. The ship sailed from Bristol, UK to Maryland, Virginia, and Bermuda. ^[5]

Biography

Thomas Edwards (aka Thomas Nathaniel, Nathan, Edwards) presumed parents William Edwards and Jonet Reese.

Birth Estimate 1635 Wales^[6]

Marriage Estimate 1660-1662 - Unknown - probably New York^[7]

Death Estimate 1698 Unknown - New York vs Wales

Children

• Robert (Hael) Edwards (b.1662) m. Margaret Cuelin^{[8] [7]}

Will

No will/probate located to confirm or disprove. Other court records indicate Robert was his executor.^[2][9]

There is some confusion about Thomas Nathaniel Edwards' place of death, as some researchers have claimed the records indicate his death in the New England colonies of North America, while other records state Wales (Kingdom of England).

Sources

1. ↑ Actual lease date was June 1 1778 vs June 1786 Edwards heirs Supp. Vol. 1, No. 1 pg 3-4. 169. 172, 174, 178 (patent not located, seen in 1874 p.174)
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1} Ancestor Family Trees

   Extensive Research by

   • Research by Robin-leigh-C-Briguglio (Sourced)
   • Redbird Acres [*Timeline Research
   • Edwards Family Extensive research by James E. Hargrave and and Joyce Jogen (Sourced)
   • Jamie Adams Research (Sourced)
   • World Connect (Sourced)
3. ↑ Book "The Union County Family History Book" of Union County, South Carolina, entry #158 & # 165.] [info found by J.C. Edwards who died in 1923 (Book not located but seen by others)
4. ↑ (BOOK, "Andrew Edwards, Rev. Sol." by Margaret Scruggs Sommerfield, 1969, page 3)
5. ↑ [Information from "Servants embarkation Record for the City of Bristol in two volumes 1654 – 1679; excerpts from book "Passengers to America - Consolidation of Ship Passenger Lists", The Geneological Society, Baltimore, 1988]
6. ↑ #Peerage Does not give any birth information or the mother.
7. ↑ ^{7.0 7.1} "The Union County Family History Book" of Union County, South Carolina, entry #158 & # 165.] [info found by J.C. Edwards (died in 1923) (Book not located but seen by others)
8. ↑ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Robert T Edwards Name: Robert T Edwards Gender: Male Birth Year: 1662 Spouse Margaret Crulin Spouse Birth Year: 1685
9. ↑ Compiled Tree Information and Links
   • Loftin Family Research - Thomas Nathaniel Edwards (Sources for Flora Edwards b. 1901)
   • Thomas Nathaniel Edwards, Sr. Geni (Sourced)
   • Edwards Family Research by Joe Crouch (Sourced)
   • "The Edwards Family Descendancy." is part of the Loftin Family Genealogy Web Site maintained by C.D. Loftin.
   • Wales Research by Diana Roy

• #Peerage: http://www.thepeerage.com/p23633.htm#i236330
• No Will/Probate Located to Prove/Disprove Locations, children, relationships

See Also

• Find A Grave Memorial 157335326 Robert m. Cuelin
• Find A Grave Thomas m. Hael
• Hall - Edwards Property Cipher/Code of Dishonor; Aaron Burr, an American Enigma: Trinity: The Burrs versus Alexander Hamilton and the United States of America; Alan J. Clark, M.D.; Author; House, Jun 30, 2005 - History - 272 pages

Acknowledgement

Elizabeth Ross Lynda C. Titterington, October 7, 2015.

• Ancestry research.

http://person.ancestry.ca/tree/75982842/person/34346727595/facts