Just Erdmann (abt. 1729 - bef. 1834)

Born about 1729 in Darmstadt, Hessen, Germany

Husband of Unknown (Unknown) Erdmann — married before 1750 in Germany

Husband of Anna (Unknown) Erdmann — married before 1759 in Germany

Husband of Susanna (Jacobi) Erdmann — married before 1772 in Grimm, Saratov, Russia

Descendants

Died before 1834 before about age 105 in Grimm, Saratov, Russia

Problems/Questions Profile manager: Julie Mangano [send private message]

Biography

Just Erdmann was a Volga German.

Just Erdmann has German Roots.

Family listed on page 166 of the Kulberg Reports.
Family #1 in the 1767 Grimm census.
Family #92 in the 1798 Grimm census.

Birth Date and Place

• about 1729
• Darmstadt, Hessen, Germany

Marriage

• Unknown first wife
• by 1750
• probably Darmstadt, Hessen, Germany

• Anna Unknown, second wife
• before 1767
• Russia

• Susanna Jacobi, third wife
• before 1798
• Grimm, Saratov, Russia

Children

• Elisabeth Erdmann, born 1751
• Daniel Erdmann, born 1754
• Catharina Erdmann, born 1759
• Johannes Erdmann, born 1762
• Katharina (Erdmann) Kraft, born 1768
• Johann Peter Erdmann, born 1773
• Johann Just Erdmann, born 1781
• Johann Heinrich Erdmann, born 1786

Death Date and Place

• before 1834
• Grimm, Saratov, Russia

Just "Jost" Erdmann was born about 1729 in the Darmstadt, Germany area.

According to the Kulberg reports, Just Erdmann was a Lutheran farmer from Darmstadt, traveling with his wife Anna, and their children: ^[1]

• Johann Daniel, 11
• Johannes, 4
• Elisabeth, 15
• Catharina, 7

They traveled on document number 2376, departing from Luebeck by the Pink "Lev" and arriving in Kronstadt on 22 July 1766.^[1] The ship was under the command of Lieutenant Fyodor Fyodorov. ^[1]

Also listed on the two open pages, 166-167, of the Kulberg Reports in close proximity to Just Erdman's name are 11 other families who ended up in Grimm, Russia. These families include:^[1]

• Johann Balzer
• Johann Batz
• Just Erdmann
• Andreas Hess
• Jakob Kunau
• Peter Kirchner
• Johannes Lipp
• Valentin Reich
• Emanuel Schneider
• Eva Selb

New German immigrants were moved to temporary quarters in Oranienbaum, where they remained for about a year before moving to their final destinations in the Volga region. In a significant number of cases, their first destination was not their final destination.

Jost Erdmann is mentioned in the 1767 Grimm census as a Lutheran Craftsman from Darmstadt. He lived with his wife Anna, born 1740, and children Daniel, age 12, and Elisabeth, age 16. The absence of Johannes and Catharina suggests that those two children did not survive the journey from Oranienbaum to the Volga region.

1767 Grimm Census Entry for Jost and Anna Erdmann ^[2]

Family # 1

Head of the Household Jost Erdmann, age 37, Lutheran craftsman from Darmstadt

Wife Anna Erdmann, age 27

Child #1 Daniel Erdmann, age 12

Child #2 Elisabeth Erdmann, age 16

This census also shows that Anna Erdmann was too young to be the mother of Daniel and Elisabeth Erdmann. The fact that she is listed in the Kulberg Reports suggests that Jost's first wife died in Germany and he remarried before immigrating to Russia.

Although no Erdmanns appear in the 1775 census, they were probably inadvertently excluded, as did happen from time to time. There are several Erdmanns in the 1798 census for Grimm. Specifically, there is a Just Erdmann, family #92, and Daniel Erdmann, family #118. These two are nearly an exact match for the Just and Johann Daniel Erdmann in the Kulberg reports and the 1767 census. Johann Daniel was 11 years old in 1766, making his birth year about 1755. Daniel Erdmann in the 1798 census lists his age at 69, making his birth year 1754. With small variances for the times of the year when the report and census were recorded, they are statistical matches.

One additional note to consider: The Nikolaus Heimbuch which included his wife Anna Katharina Seibel and her two younger siblings also does not appear in the 1775 Grimm census. I am going through each of these families now to see if there are any others like see. Perhaps there is a pattern that can help show what happened and/or why they are missing from the 1775 census.

1798 Grimm Census ^[3]

Family # 92

Head of the Household Just Erdman [sic], age 69

Wife Susanna Jakobi, age 59 [third wife]

Child #1 Johann Peter Erdmann, age 25

Wife of Child #1 Anna Maria Lefler, age 24

Grandchild #1 Johannes Erdmann, age 2

Grandchild #2 Andreas Erdmann, age 6 months

Child #2 Johann Just Erdmann, age 17

Child #3 Johann Heinrich Erdmann, age 12

Daniel Erdmann's son, Johann Peter, was 20 at the time of the 1798 census, making his birth year 1778. His wife, Christina Bauer, also 20, was from the village of Scherbakovka. She was probably the daughter of Georg Friedrich Bauer, born in Germany in 1751, who was unmarried at the time of the 1765 Scherbakovka census and living with his parents Melchior and Anna Elisabeth Bauer. By 1778, Georg Friedrich Bauer would have been 27 years old, probably married with at least one child, daughter Christina, born that year.

Just Erdmann died before 1834 in Grimm, Russia. Had he survived, he would have been more than 100 years old.

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3} Pleve, Igor, Lists of Colonists to Russia in 1766, "Reports by Ivan Kulberg," Ministry of Education and Science of Russian Federation, Saratov State Technical University; Published in Saratov, Russia, 2010; page 166, Just Erdmann from Darmstadt, Doc #2376.
2. ↑ Pleve, Igor. Einwanderung in das Wolgagebiet 1764-1767, Band 2, Heerstellung: Mecke Druck and Verlag, 37115 Duderstandt; Published 1999; page 73, family #1, Jost Erdmann, 37, Lutheran craftsman from Darmstadt, wfie Anna, age 27, son Daniel, age 12, and daughter Elisabeth, age 16.
3. ↑ The 1775 and 1798 Census of the German Colony on the Volga, Lesnoy Karamysh, also known as Grimm; Published by the American Historical Society of Germans from Russia, Lincoln, Nebraska, USA; Published date: 1995; family #92 in the 1798 census.