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Joan (FitzAlan) de Bohun (abt. 1347 - 1419)

Joan "Countess of Hereford" de Bohun formerly FitzAlan aka Bohun
Born about in Englandmap [uncertain]
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Wife of — married 17 Oct 1359 in Englandmap
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Died at about age 72 in Englandmap
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Biography

Joan FitzAlan was the daughter of Richard de Arundel, Earl of Arundel, by his second wife, Eleanor of Lancaster.[1][2] Joan's date and place of birth are unknown. Her birth is estimated to be about 1347 (see below).[3]

Joan married Humphrey de Bohun, K.G., Earl of Hereford, Essex, and Northampton, by papal dispensation dated 9 September 1359 (4th degree of kindred)[2] and royal license dated 17 October 1359.[1] They had two daughters.

After her husband's death, Joan's dower provided her with substantial lands in Essex. Some of her manors suffered in the Peasants' Revolt of 1381.[4]

Joan, Countess of Hereford, Essex and Northampton died testate on 7 April 1419 and was buried at Walden Abbey, Essex.[1] Her Inquisition(s) Post Mortem, which started 28 May 1419, state that her heirs were the King (aged 30 or more), son of her daughter Mary, and Anne (aged 36 or more), daughter of her daughter Eleanor.[5]

Research Notes

Estimated Birth

Richardson gives no estimated date of birth.
This profile originally had Joan's birth as "about 1345" but no indication of why; it caused a database error with "wikidata", which had 1347 as birth year (27 April 2019). The wikidata entry had two citations: to Kindred Britain, which did not appear to have any sources, and "thepeerage.com", which is not a recommended source. Lewis had "about 1350" (also not a recommended source). Wikipedia had 1347, citing Cawley's MedLands.[3]
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Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. (Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2011), vol. I, pages 245-247, BOHUN 7.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 Cokayne, George Edward and H.A. Doubleday et. al eds. Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Vol. VI: Gordon to Hurstpierpoint, 2nd edition. (London, 1926), online at FamilySearch, pages 473-474, 477 HEREFORD 7.
  3. 3.0 3.1 Charles Cawley. Joan FitzAlan, entry in "Medieval Lands" database (accessed 27 April 2019). Note - as of 27 April 2019, her birth is shown as "[1347]" (Cawley uses brackets to indicate he is unsure of the information).
  4. Ward, Jennifer. Women in England in the Middle Ages. (A & C Black, 2006), online at GoogleBooks, page 108.
  5. Mapping the Medieval Countryside [online]. (King's College London, 2014), online at InquisitionsPostMortem.ac.uk, accessed: 16 Jan 2020.
  • Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. Salt Lake City: the author, 2013. See also WikiTree's source page for Royal Ancestry. Vol. I, pages 425-426 and 477-478; Vol. II, pages 605-609.
  • Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd edition, 2011; see also WikiTree's source page for Magna Carta Ancestry. Vol. I, pages 245-246 (BOHUN) and 277 (BOURCHIER); Vol. II pp. 185-190 (FITZALAN-7) and 544-545 (LANCASTER-9).
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Acknowledgements

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Magna Carta Project

This profile was reviewed and approved Thiessen-117 21:31, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
Joan FitzAlan appears in badged trails from Gateway Ancestor Mary Bourchier to Magna Carta Surety Barons Saher de Quincy, Robert de Vere (through her father), Hugh le Bigod and Roger le Bigod (through her mother). These trails are set out in the Magna Carta Trails on the Gateway's profile.
See Base Camp for more information about Magna Carta trails. See the project's glossary for project-specific terms, such as a "badged trail".




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Two things:

(1) There are no sources to link daughter Elizabeth, though she may have died in infancy. Should we remove the connection?

(2) Could someone give a source for the attached image and ensure it's legit?

Thank you!!

posted by Traci Thiessen
edited by Traci Thiessen
Looking at her profile, I think it would be ok to keep her attached. We could note the connetion as Uncertain since there's no real evidence (but unless parish records are found with her birth/burial, I don't think we'll find any evidence about her).
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
edited by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Blason_Thomas_Fitzalan_(mort_en_1524)_10e_Comte_d%27Arundel.svg

FitzAlan quartering Maltravers (sable fretty or), so only appropriate for the descendants of Joan's brother John (who became the later Earls)

The usual arms of Joan's father Richard were FitzAlan (red, gold lion rampant) quartering Warenne (blue and gold checkerboard)

posted by [Living Horace]
Thanks! I've removed https://www.wikitree.com/photo/jpg/FitzAlan-439 from this profile/added it to John FitzAlan (and changed the name displayed with the image from Joan to John).
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett

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