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Robert FitzPayn (abt. 1255 - 1315)

Sir Robert (Robert II) "1st Lord FitzPayn" FitzPayn
Born about in Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Walesmap
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Husband of — married [date unknown] in G, Englandmap
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Died at about age 60 in Taunton, Somerset, Englandmap
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Sir Robert FitzPayn, of Llanvair Discoed in Nether Gwent, Okeford Fitzpaine, Chelborough, Worth, and Wraxall, Dorset, Staple Fitzpaine, Cheddon Fitzpaine, Cary Fitzpaine, and Bridghampton, Somerset, Poole Keynes and Stourton, Wiltshire, England.

He was son and heir of Sir Robert FitzPayn, who died shortly before 27 APR 1281, by Roberge, his wife.

In 1281, Sir Robert FitzPayn who was tenant of Yeovilton, Somersetshire, was succeeded by his son Robert, Lord FitzPayn (d. 1315). [1] The younger Robert by his death in 1315 added to his holding the adjoining estate of Speckington and the combined holding was normally known as the manor of Speckington and Bridgehampton. [2]

Sources

  1. Cal. Inq. p.m. ii, p. 232.
  2. British History Online.




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FITZPAYN ROBERT III Son and heir of Robert II Fitzpayn

[CPR EI] 10 March 1290 Down Ampney. Robert son of Payn, staying in England, nominating Thomas de Haddon and Robert Laurence in Ireland for two years.

[CPR EI] 3 January 1293 Newcastle-in-Tyne. Pardon to Robert son of Payn, for a fine of 100/ for all trespasses in the forests, chaces and parks of the king or others.

[CCR EI] 20 April 1297 Plympton. To the keeper of the king's park of Pederton. Order to cause Robert son of Payn to have in that park six oaks fit for timber, of the king's gift.

[CPR EI] 10 April 1298 Westminster. Commission of oyer and terminer to Robert son of Payn and David le Graunt, touching the Westminster, persons who broke the park of John de Columbaris at Staweye, co. Somerset, while he was with the king on his service in Flanders, hunted therein and carried away deer.

[CPR EI] 30 August 1298 Ayr. Commission of oyer and terminer to Robert son of Payn and David le Graunt, touching the persons who broke the park of John de Carru at Monketon, co.Devon, hunted therein and carried away deer. Robert Fitzpayn appointed to numerous commissions of oyer and terminer until the end of the reign of Edward I.

[CPR EI] 21 October 1298 Felton. Pardon to Robert son of Payn of 100/ whereby he made fine in the 21st year of the king's reign for trespasses in the king's forests and parks.

[CCR EI] 14 January 1300. To the sheriff of Somerset and Dorset. Order to cause, together with Robert son Payn and Walter de Pavilly, all and singular knights, esquires or others of his bailiwick who have 40/ yearly of land or rent or more to be warned and requested on the king's behalf, even if they do not hold of him, to so provide themselves with horses and arms and to prepare themselves to be with the king at Carlisle at Midsummer next, ready to set out at his wages against the Scots, and that the said knights, esquires or others shall not omit to do this under pain of a forfeiture to be ordained by the king. The sheriff is ordered to certify the king in his wardrobe under the seals of the sheriff and the said Robert and Walter before the second Sunday of Lent of the names of those thus warned and of the names of all those of his bailiwick whom the king ordered him by another writ to be summoned for the said day and place. He is ordered to send the writs that the king sends to him to the aforesaid Robert and Walter.

[CPR EI] 27 March 1301 Evesham. Appointment of Robert son of Payn to the custody, during the minority of the heir of the manor of Werministre, county Wiltshire, late of Warin Mauduit, tenant in chief, and of the lands which Warin had in the manor of Westbury, county Wiltshire; rendering yearly at the Exchequer by the hands of the escheator this side Trent 49/. their extent. Mandate in pursuance to Walter de Gloucesre, escheator this side Trent.

[CPR EI] 1 March 1304 Dumfermline. Grant to Robert son of Payn of all the debts due at the Exchequer by Richard de Bosco, deceased. Mandate in pursuance to the executors of the will of the said Richard to pay the sum to Robert. The like to the treasurer and barons of the Excchequer, after scrutinising the rolls of the Exchequer, to assign the said debts to Robert and acquit the executors.

[CCW EI] 2 April 1304 St Andrews. Mandate to make letters of protection and respite of debts to the king for Robert son of Payn, staying with the king on his Device in Scotland, until Michaelmas next unless he return before that to England.

[CFR EI] 20 March 1305 Westminster. Commitment during pleasure to Robert son of Payn of the castle of Corf. Order to Henry de Lacy, earl of Lincoln, to whom the king before committed the said castle, to deliver the same to the said Robert.

[CPR EI] 8 May 1305 Langley. Licence, in consideration of a fine made before the treasurer and barons of the Exchequer by Robert fitz Payn, for John de Maundeville to grant to Robert and Isabella his wife and the heirs of Robert the manor of Merwode and the hundred of Whitechirche, held in chief.

[CFR EII] 16 March 1308 Westminster. Commitment during pleasure to Robert son of Payn of the castle of Winchester. Order to the tenants to be intendant to him as constable. Order to Thomas de Warblyngton to deliver the same to him.

[CPR EII] 4 March 1309 Westminster. Licence, in consideration of a fine of 100 marks, which the king has assigned to Robert son of Payn, one of his envoys to the Pope, for the abbot and convent of Hyde to appropriate the church of Aulton, in the diocese of Winchester, with the chapels appertaining to it. Memorandum: The king has assigned the above 100 marks to Robert son of Payn, steward of his household.

[CPR EII] 10 March 1309 Langley. Robert son of Payn, going beyond seas on the king's service, has letters nominating Nicholas Gaillard his attorney until Michaelmas.

[CPR EII] 9 February 1310 Westminster. Grant, for life, to Robert son of Payn, steward of the king's household, of the manor of Norton Saint Walery; if the king at any time resumes the manor, he is to receive compensation.

[CPR EII] 15 September 1314 York. Grant to Robert son of Payn of that which pertains to the king of the marriage of Katherine, late the wife of John Biset, tenant in chief, the fine to wit, if she have made any with the king for that marriage, or forfeiture appertaining to the king, if she marries without the king's licence or that of Robert son of Payn.

[CPR EII] 3 May 1313 Westminster. Protection until St Peter ad Vincula, for Robert son of Payn, going beyond seas on the king's service with the king.

[CPR EII] 1 October 1314 York. Licence, for life, for Robert son of Payn to hunt the fox and hare with his own dogs in the king's forests in the counties of Dorset, Somerset, Wiltshire, and to stretch nets for the capture of foxes with hindrance of the justices or other king's minsters of the forest. He is not, however, by virtue of this concession tot take any of the king's great deer.

[CChanR] 7 March 1315 Westminster. To the collectors of the scutage for the 28th, 31st and 34th years in county Devon. Order to supersede the demand upon Robert son of Payn for scutage for the said years, as it appears to the king that Robert was with the said king in the armies aforesaid for his service that he acknowledged to the said king. The like to the collectors of the scutage in cos. Somerset and Dorset.

[CFR EII] 30 August 1315 Lincoln. Order to the escheator on this side Trent to take into the king's Lincoln, hand the lands late of Robert son of Payn, deceased, tenant in chief.

[CIPM EII V5] 607 Robert Fitzpayn. Writ 30 August 9EII. Robert his son aged 30 and more, is his next heir. Gloucester – Frompton on Severn. The manor held by the said Robert and Isabel his wife, of Sir Thomas Berkeley by service of 22 marks yearly.

posted by [Living O'Brien]
Source for birth in Chepstow?

I am concerned that somebody in the recent past has copied "SIR ROBERT FITZPAYN, of Llanvair Discoed in Nether Gwent" into Google Maps and then asserted in a GED, or whatever, that he was born in Wales.

If you're his father, and the family has a dozen manor houses, and castles safe 100+ miles away from the war in Wales, why is your pregnant wife there with you, the King, and the army, on the battlefield? Even if we answer that question... because she's great, etc... still, why's your son BORN there?

posted by Isaac Taylor