Robert FitzWalter
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Robert FitzWalter

Robert FitzWalter
Born [date unknown] in Englandmap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died in Horsford, St. Faith's, Norfolk, Englandmap
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Biography

Robert Fitz Walter De Windsor, 2d son of Baron Walter Fitz Other de Windsor, the patriarch of the house of Windsor. Robert Fitz Walter was Lord of Estaines (Staines is on the River Thames, near Windsor) [1]

Robert fitzWalter was lord of Horsford in Norfolk, originally held by Walter de Caen. [2]

On Pilgrimage, Robert fitz Walter and his wife Sybil de Chesney (daughter and heiress of Ralph de Chaney) were inspired by a visit to the Abbey Church of Saint Foy (St. Faith) Conques, Occitan, France; and founded a Benedictine Monastery dedicated to St. Faith at Horsham, near Norwich, Norfolk. [3]

three known children - [4]
- Roger de Chesney - died childless
- John de Chesney - died childless
- William de Chesney of Horsford and Colne, Essex (three children; Margery, Clementina and Sarah)

Sources

  1. Celt : From Researches in the South of Ireland Author: Thomas Crofton Croker), p.121 (section 7.) Corpus of Electronic Texts Edition
  2. A Vision of Britain through Time GB Historical GIS / University of Portsmouth, Horsford Manor through time | Census tables with data for the Manor, A Vision of Britain through Time. National Archives : Horsford Manor
  3. There is a story that they were attacked by bandits, robbed and thrown into prison; from whence, after praying to St Faith, they were released and offered their fetters in thanksgiving to Saint Faith at Conques .British History Online : The Priory of Saint Faith, Horsham
  4. Untitled English Nobility : Chesney of Horsford

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Based on the wife, and Horsford this is not the son of Walter fitz Other. He is also not the Robert who was in the past wrongly proposed to be the son of that Walter fitz Other whose barony of "Estaines" was in Little Easton in Essex, not Staines (and whose father was Walter the Deacon). I also can't see that any of the source cited mix things up in quite this way.
posted by Andrew Lancaster
Is the Robert who married Sybil DE CHESNEY

the same Robert, son of Walter Fitz Other? http://knight-france.com/geneal/names/1438.htm

posted by Valerie Willis
not sure of the significance of the image of Rochester Castle
posted by Valerie Willis
His and many of his family are part of several UM matches that have been around for awhile. Nothing will ever happen if we don't start merging these. -113 and -140 are clearly the same. Their parents are clearly the same. Start by merging the parents.
posted by Steve Selbrede
His son William was born after he died. He should be merged with FitzWalter-140 (UMM for nearly a year), whose DOD is 1040.
posted by Steve Selbrede
FROM FMG[1]

ROBERT FitzWalter of Caen . "Robertus filius Walteri et Avelina uxor sua" donated "ecclesiam de Northona" to Gloucester St Peter by undated charter[935]. A family connection between Robert FitzWalter and the Giffard family of Gloucestershire is suggested by the undated charter under which "Walterus Giffardus" granted land "in Ullingwike", including part "quæ fuit Roberti filii Walterii", to "Gilberto Giffardo fratri meo"[936]. m firstly as her second husband, ADELINE [Aveline], widow of ALAIN FitzFlaald, daughter of ARNOUL de Hesdin [en Picardie] & his wife Emmeline --- (-after 1126). “Alanus filius Flaaldi et Adelina uxor mea” donated property to Castle Acre Priory by undated charter[937]. Her parentage is confirmed by Orderic Vitalis who records that Ernulf de Hesdin was avunculus of "William fitz Alan castellan and vicecomes of Shrewsbury"[938]. It is assumed that her [first] marriage took place early in the reign of Henry I King of England, who sponsored her husband’s rise to prominence in England as shown by the king’s charters in which he is named. Eyton states that Dugdale intimates that "Dame Adeliza" who donated land at Wolston to Burton abbey, by charter dated to before 1114, was Alan FitzFlaad’s widow and the mother of "Sibil" who with her husband Roger de Freville confirmed her mother’s donation by charter dated 1132[939]. Henry I King of England confirmed an agreement between the bishop of Norwich and "Avelinam de Hesding" concerning "terra de Ettona" by charter dated to [1121/27][940]. A charter of Henry II King of England, dated 1176, recites donations to Haughmond abbey including that of "Willielmus filius Alani" of "terram de Piperinges" previously enjoyed by "Aveline matris ipsius Willielmi filius Alani"[941]. The Historia sancti Petri Gloucestriæ records that "Robertus filius Walteri et Avelina uxor eius" donated "ecclesiam de Nortone", as previously donated by "Elmelina mater Avelinæ ante plures annos"[942]. "Robertus filius Walteri et Avelina uxor sua" donated "ecclesiam de Northona" to Gloucester St Peter by undated charter[943]. “Margareta uxor Hamonis de Sancto Claro” donated “Stoches...manerium meum cum suis appendiciis de Sudfolchia et Norfolc...sicut...michi pater meus concessit” to Colchester St. John, for the souls of “patris mei Roberti et Aueline matris mee et Johannis fratris mei”, by undated charter[944]. m secondly ---. Robert & his first wife had one child: a) MARGARET (-bur Colchester St. John). “Hamo de Sancto Claro” donated “manerium de Stoches” to Colchester St. John, at the request of “Margarete uxoris mee cujus maritagium illud manerium erat”, by undated charter, witnessed by “...Symon frater Margarete...”[945]. “Margareta uxor Hamonis de Sancto Claro” donated “Stoches...manerium meum cum suis appendiciis de Sudfolchia et Norfolc...sicut...michi pater meus concessit” to Colchester St. John for her burial there, and for the souls of “patris mei Roberti et Aueline matris mee et Johannis fratris mei” and for the salvation of “viri mei Hamonis” and with his consent, by undated charter, witnessed by “Hubertus de Sancto Claro, Symon frater meus...”[946]. “Simon de Caisneto” confirmed that “Margareta uxor Hamonis de Sancto Claro mea soror in infirmitate qua mortua est” donated “manerium de Stochis” to Colchester St. John for her burial there, by undated charter[947]. m ([1137]) as his second wife, HAMON de Saint-Clair, son of --- (-after 1139). Robert & his [first/second] wife had two children: b) JOHN . “Margareta uxor Hamonis de Sancto Claro” donated “Stoches...manerium meum cum suis appendiciis de Sudfolchia et Norfolc...sicut...michi pater meus concessit” to Colchester St. John for her burial there, and for the souls of “patris mei Roberti et Aueline matris mee et Johannis fratris mei” and for the salvation of “viri mei Hamonis” and with his consent, by undated charter, witnessed by “Hubertus de Sancto Claro, Symon frater meus...”[948]. c) SIMON [de Chesney] . “Hamo de Sancto Claro” donated “manerium de Stoches” to Colchester St. John, at the request of “Margarete uxoris mee cujus maritagium illud manerium erat”, by undated charter, witnessed by “...Symon frater Margarete...”[949]. “Margareta uxor Hamonis de Sancto Claro” donated “Stoches...manerium meum cum suis appendiciis de Sudfolchia et Norfolc...sicut...michi pater meus concessit” to Colchester St. John for her burial there, and for the souls of “patris mei Roberti et Aueline matris mee et Johannis fratris mei” and for the salvation of “viri mei Hamonis” and with his consent, by undated charter, witnessed by “Hubertus de Sancto Claro, Symon frater meus...”[950]. “Simon de Caisneto” confirmed that “Margareta uxor Hamonis de Sancto Claro mea soror in infirmitate qua mortua est” donated “manerium de Stochis” to Colchester St. John for her burial there, by undated charter[951].

posted by Shelley Freestone
Parentage or dates issue- mother's birthdate is after his.
posted by Abby Smith
According to the dates involved here Robert was married 2 years before he was born. Really !!
posted by Harry Kelly

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