Preceded by Alexander Forbes |
2nd Lord Forbes 1448 - 1462 |
Succeeded by William Forbes |
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James Forbes, 2nd Lord Forbes was the son of Alexander Forbes, 1st Lord Forbes and Lady Elizabeth Douglas, only daughter of George Douglas, first Earl of Angus, and granddaughter of King Robert III. [1]
James of Forbes, as the son and heir apparent of his "derrest fadir, schir Alexander of Forbes, knycht", at Aberdeen on the last day of September, 1444, made it known to all men, "be this present writ becummys mane, til ane honorable and michti lorde Alexander of Setaune of Gordan, my redoutit lorde, for all the dayis of my lyfe, in tyme of wer and of pece, agayn all dedlyk myn alleigance til our souerane lord the Kyng alanerly outtaine; in witnes af the quhilkis my sel is appensit".[2][3] If he became a man on 30 September 1444, he was probably born 21 years earlier. His year of birth is based on this estimate. In exchange for this man rent he acquired a charter of Corsindawe, and other lands in the barony of Cluny.
He succeeded his father in 1448.[4]
In 1456 he received a licence from King James II. to fortify the Tower of Drymynour, commonly called Forbes, then the chief seat of the family, in the lordship of Forbes (Aberdeenshire).[5]
James married Egidia Keith, daughter of William de Keith, 1st Earl Marischal.[6]
He died between 20 September 1460, when he received a charter of lands of Tullireoth, in the barony of Cluny, and 30 July 1462, when his son was served heir.[7]
He married Egidia, second daughter of William Keith, first Earl Marischal, who survived him, and was still a widow on 14 August 1473 when she appears in a charter of exchange.[8] They had children:
In the family history of the family of Skene of Skene there is notice of a daughter, likely to ahve been of James. Her name is provided as Agnes, who married Alexander Skene, Laird of Skene. She is stated to be a daughter of Lord Forbes. The family historian suggests that she was probably a daughter of James, 2nd Lord Forbes, and his Egidia Keith. [9] The date of the marriage is not provided. His eldest son, Alexander, is said to have attained his majority in 1514.[10] This suggests he was born c. 1590. Thus the year of marriage was c. 1589. For this to be a fact and as James Forbes died in 1462, she must have been born late in his life and estimated at c. 1460, to have been the mother of his children.
He declined to join with Earl Douglas against King James II in 1451. Earl Douglas was killed by the King in Stirling on 7 February 1452. John and son William participated in the battle of Brechin on 18 May 1452 with the King against the Earl of Crawford (principal confidant of the Douglasses). Success of the battle was credited in no small part to the Forbeses and their associates. A knight in 1444, before he ascended, he obtained a charter of the lands of Corsindae from Alexander Seton of Gordon. James may have accompaned Earl Douglas to Rome in 1450 to celebrate the Jubilee. He had a retour of Whitefield, 2 August 1452, to be held from the Earl of Angus for L5 yearly; instrument of sasine from Walter Stewart of Kinedward for the Earl of Ross and the isles, on the lands of Fintray; a charter of the lands of Tullyreoch in the Barony of Cluny, 20 September 1460, from Alexander, Earl of Huntly; and was appointed to Parliament in 1457, where he also sat as a Lord of Session for the Court of Justice.
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Reference: GD52; Title: Lord Forbes; Date: 13th Century-1926; Country code: GB; Repository code: 234; Repository: National Records of Scotland; Reference: GD52/1042; Title: Notarial instrument narrating a protestation in Parliament before the King, the Earls of Douglas and Craufurd [Crawford] and many others by James of Forbes, son and heir of Sir Alexander Forbes, that no sentence to be pronounced against James, Earl of Angus, should affect his right of succession to the lands of that Earl. (A note on the back of this document mentions an entail made by the Earl of Angus of his estate to the heirs, Sir Alexander Forbes and Elizabeth Douglas, sister of the above Earl). [see APS, vol II, pp 59, 60]. There is also on the back of this document a catalogue of the books of Alexander Forbes [probably the eleventh Lord Forbes]; Dates: 1/7/1445