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James Frame (abt. 1729 - 1794)

James "Irish Jimmie" Frame
Born about in Carstairs, Lanarkshire, Scotlandmap [uncertain]
Son of [uncertain] and
Brother of [half], [half] and [half]
Husband of — married about 1752 in Pennsylvaniamap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 64 in Merrittstown, Fayette, Pennsylvania, United Statesmap
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Profile last modified | Created 17 Jun 2013
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James Frame migrated from Scotland to Pennsylvania, United States.
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Contents

Biography

James was born in 1729. [1]

His parents are conjectural.

Emma Eliza Laughlin's notes (1930s) on the Robes and Frames says that "Irish Jimmie's" father died of ship fever while on a visit and is buried in Pennsylvania. The father apparently had three brothers (? or were these uncles on Jimmy's mother's side?) who came with "Irish Jimmie" when they emigrated around 1750. One uncle settled in New York State, one in Pennsylvania, one in New Jersey.

Other stories about James's origins and parents.

There is very little information on William Frame and Isabel Crawford. They were probably born in Ireland and married there. William died in 1755 and Isabel in 1760, places unknown. It is not known whether they immigrated to America. They had six children:

  • 1. John, born 1721.
  • 2. Unknown child, born 1723.
  • 3. Janet, born 1728.
  • 4. James, born 1729 in County Armagh, Ireland, died May 22, 1794 in Fayette

County, PA; married about 1752 to Susannah Downard. 7 children. (See below)

  • 5. William, born 1734.
  • 6. David, date of birth unknown. [2]

"Irish Jimmie" resided 1790 Census, Luzerne Township, Fayette, PA: page 40: 5 males 0 2 [3]

Buried in Dunlap's Creek Presbyterian Church, Merrittstown, Fayette, Pennsylvania. In Feb 1785, he was granted 384 acres in Fayette co., PA, where he spent the rest of his life. He died without distributing the land among his heirs, and on 29 Dec 1795, six of his children sold their shares to the seventh (James Jr.) and the relevant deed provides contemporary proof of the parentage of his children.[4]

Research Notes

Sarchet's History of Guernsey County, Ohio [5]mentions the ancestor of the Frame family as being a certain George Frame, a victim of religious persecution in Ireland. It is said that all members of his family were killed except himself and two children. An account written in the handwriting of Roland St. Clair Frame (1844-1934) of Guernsey county, OH gives a similar story, adding that the maiden name of George Frame's wife was Thompson.

QUOTE FROM Stewart Baldwin descendancy: James Frame came to America about 1750. He married Susannah Downard, who was said to have been born in England. They moved from Chester co., PA to Fayette, co., PA where the names of James and Susanna Fraim appear in the session book of the Presbyterian Church at Dunlap's Creek.[6]

Guernsey county tradition[7] is fairly consistent. One version states that three brothers and a nephew came across the Atlantic from county Armagh, Ireland, settling in the vicinity of Philadelphia. The nephew was our James Frame. The reunion book kept by John Shannon Frame, a great grandson of James Frame the immigrant has a few differences; The place of origin is Scotland, date of arrival 1750, with James Frame being 21. Two uncles are in Philadelphia and one in New York State. It also adds that James Frame's father died while on a visit to America and was buried in PA, and that his brother and sister also later came to Philadelphia, the sister marrying a Buchannon. [End of Stewart Baldwin quote.]

DNA Results

Y-DNA results at Family Tree DNA Frame DNA Project [8]

Kit numbers of descendants of "Irish Jimmy" Frame:
159465 Tested @ I-M253
150485 Tested @ I-Y41113
145324 Tested @ I-Y41113
231831 Tested @ I-M253

Frame-345 was created by David Frain through the import of DeAnna Jensen Family Tree.ged on Feb 23, 2015.

Name

Name: James /Frame/[9]
Name: James /Frain/

Found multiple versions of NAME. Using James /Frame/.

Birth

Birth:
Date: 1729
Place: Lanarkshire, Scotland[10]
Birth:
Date: 1729
Place: , Lanarkshire, , Scotland

Found multiple copies of BIRT DATE. Using 1729

Death

Death:
Date: 22 May 1794
Place: Merrittstown, Fayette, Pennsylvania, United States

Marriage

Husband: James Frame
Wife: Susan Donnard
Child: David Frain
Relationship to Father: Natural
Relationship to Mother: Natural
Child: William Frain
Relationship to Father: Natural
Relationship to Mother: Natural
Child: Thomas Frain
Relationship to Father: Natural
Relationship to Mother: Natural
Child: Nancy Frain
Relationship to Father: Natural
Relationship to Mother: Natural
Child: Susannah Frain
Relationship to Father: Natural
Relationship to Mother: Natural
Child: James York Frain
Relationship to Father: Natural
Relationship to Mother: Natural
Child: John Frain
Relationship to Father: Natural
Relationship to Mother: Natural
Marriage:
Date: 1752
Place: Bel, Chester, PA, USA
Marriage:
Place: of PA[11][12]

Sources

  1. Entered by Lynn Wright, Jun 17, 2013
  2. Stanley W. Cowan post to PA-OldChester-L Archives Re: Ruth Ann Frame 1818-1900 posted 3 Jan 2003
  3. "United States Census, 1790," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHKJ-RKK : accessed 14 August 2018), James Frame, Luzerne, Fayette, Pennsylvania, United States; citing p. 40, NARA microfilm publication M637, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 8; FHL microfilm 568,148.
  4. Deed Book B, Fayette County, Pennsylvania, pp 937-938, dated 14 Jan 1796 by Abraham Stewart, J.P. Land patent of 25 Feb 1785 on p.49 of Patent book 6: "a parcel" in all 3 townships (Luzerne, German, Menallen) which adjoins John Patterson, Robt Baird, John Ewing
  5. Sarchet's History of Guernsey county, Ohio, pp. 793-4
  6. Session Book Dunlap Cr Presbyt Church found reportedly e.g. in Seminary Library, Pittsburgh PA
  7. Portrait and Biographical Record of Guernsey County, Ohio", 1895, C.C. Owen & Co., pp. 348-9
  8. https://www.familytreedna.com/public/FRAMEDNAProject?iframe=ycolorized
  9. Source: #S-620910470 Page: Source number: 6774.006; Source type: Family group sheet, FGSE, listed as parents; Number of Pages: 1 APID: 1,7836::430906
  10. Source: #S-620910470 Page: Source number: 6774.006; Source type: Family group sheet, FGSE, listed as parents; Number of Pages: 1 APID: 1,7836::430906
  11. Source: #S-620910470 Page: Source number: 6774.006; Source type: Family group sheet, FGSE, listed as parents; Number of Pages: 1 APID: 1,7836::430906
  12. Source: #S-620910470 Page: Source number: 6774.006; Source type: Family group sheet, FGSE, listed as parents; Number of Pages: 1 APID: 1,7836::351879


Frame Reunion book, 18 August 1904 kept by John Shannon Frame

Footnotes

Acknowledgments

Thanks to Lynn Wright for starting this profile. Click the Changes tab for the details of contributions by Lynn and others.

  • Source: S-620910470 Repository: #R-1096876688 Title: U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Author: Yates Publishing Publication: Ancestry.com Operations Inc Note:
  • Repository: R-1096876688 Name: Ancestry.com




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Frame-345 and Frame-212 appear to represent the same person because: Although the fathers differ, these are clearly the same person, with the same birth date and same wife's name.
Ancestry DNA Gedmatch A020530, Brother's Gedmatch A225495
posted by Melanie (Hill) Roscoe
Frame-345 and Frame-212 are not ready to be merged because: Parents need confirmation. Apart from that, this is a match
posted by Chris Nelson
Frame-345 and Frame-212 appear to represent the same person because: These appear to be the same person.
posted by Dave McNally

Rejected matches › James Frame (1731-)

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