John Paul Froman Jr. (1734 - 1799)

Born 16 Oct 1734 in Frederick, Virginia

Ancestors

Descendants

Died 1799 at about age 64 in Nelson, Kentucky, United States

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Paul Froman Jr. is an NSSAR Patriot Ancestor.
NSSAR Ancestor #: P-162510
Rank: Captain

Here is a draft of a book on my Froman research

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kV8IT9kjGMbzvE4LyP69adw9LNAZ_Tsk/view

In the John Clark vs Paul Froman case, there was a request to dismissed the case in Sept 1799, based on the fact that Paul "had departed this life". There were three other cases that had the same language, all of them in Nelson County, KY (James Porter vs Paul Froman May 1799 Nelson Co, Michael Troutman vs Paul Froman 1804 Nelson Co, William Sands vs Heir of Paul Froman 15 Mar 1810 - Harrison Co IN). In the Nelson County, KY orders book B, page 238, 24 July 1800 Mr. John Clark ask for his case to be "revive" - re-opened against the heirs of Paul, it list all Heirs.

Paul signed Deeds in 14 April 1798.

Additionally, on the 28 May 1799 marriage bond for his daughter Mary "Polly" Froman to James Bruce, it list her father Paul as deceased, the bond is signed by brothers Jacob and John.

Thirdly, Paul Froman is found is not found on any Tax List after 1798.

Fourthly, Paul Froman, never lived in Spencer County, because there was no Spencer County for another 25 years, and Paul Froman home was North Central part of Nelson county.

In the John Clark vs Paul Froman case, there was a request that this case be dismissed in Sept 1799, based on the fact that Paul "had departed this life". There were three other cases that had the same language, all of them in Nelson County, KY (James Porter vs Paul Froman May 1799 Nelson Co, Michael Troutman vs Paul Froman 1804 Nelson Co, William Sands vs Heir of Paul Froman 15 Mar 1810 - Harrison Co IN). In the Nelson County, KY orders book B, page 238, 24 July 1800 Mr. John Clark ask for his case to be "revive" - re-opened against the heirs of Paul, it list all Heirs. The 1820 date and the Spencer, Kentucky found in SAR/DAR is based off no documented proof.

Additionally, on the 28 May 1799 marriage bond for his daughter Mary "Polly" Froman to James Bruce, it list her father Paul as deceased, the bond is signed by brothers Jacob and John.

Thirdly, Paul Froman is found to not pay any taxes after 1799.

Fourthly, Paul Froman, never lived in Spencer County, because there was no Spencer County for another 25 years, and Paul Froman home was North Central part of the county.

Biography

Paul Froman Jr. (b. 16 Oct 1734)^[1]

Paul Froman Jr. (son of Paul Froman and Elizabeth Hite) was born October 16, 1734 in Virginia; married Mary McCarty.

Children of Elizabeth Hite and Paul Froman:

(i) Regina Froman^[2], born 1725 in Germany, died 1797; married Henry Speers^[3] 1744 in Augusta County, Virginia, born 1725 in Germany; died 1773 in Pennsylvania.

(ii) Sarah Jane Froman, born November 16, 1732, died 1750.

(iii) Paul Froman Jr., born October 16, 1734 in Frederick, Virginia; married Mary McCarty.

(iv) Maria Christina Froman, born March 1, 1736 in Frederick, Virginia; married John Overall Jr,, born 1735.

(v) Elizabeth Froman, May 8, 1738 in Frederick, Virginia; married Nathaniel Cartmell.

(vi) Jacob Hite Froman, born April 9, 1749 in Frederick, Virginia.

Note

Note:

Sponsor at his baptism: Ludtwig Stephan.

Frederick Co VA Road Orders, 1743-1772 by Virginia Genealogical Society; online at Google Books

2 April 1754, p.348 .....marked a road from Sandy ford to Fromans mille. Ordered that ... [names included: Nathaniel Cartmill, Nathan Cartmill, John Thomas, Jacob Frey, Joseph Frey, Benjamin Frey, Abrahm Frey, Paul Froman, clear and keep the same in Repair ....further ordered that Paul Froman, Junr be oversee of the sd Road.

7 May 1760. Grand Jury Presentments

"We of the Grand Jury do present Paul Froman Junr Overseer of the road leading from his Mill to the Sandy Ford on Opeckon Creek for not keeping the same in Repair according to the Law within two months Past by the knowledge of two of us."

http://www.combs-families.org/combs/records/va/frederick.htm

7 Jun 1763 (Frederick Co VA DB8:428-30) Lease. Darby MCCARTY to Job COMBES, both of Frederick. 5 shillings. 400 acres, land situate in Frederick ? at the foot of a Hill on the west side of Pasage Creek? Rent of one Ear of Indian Corn at the feast of St. Michael the Arch Angel? s/Darby (O) MCCARTY, Hannah (H) MCCARTY. Wits: Paul FROMAN junr., Jacob FROMAN. Release. Consideration L150. . Rec: 7 Jun 1763. (Frederick Co, VA Deed Book Series Volume 2, Deed Books 5, 6, 7, 8, 1757-1763, Abstracted, Amelia C. Gilreath, 1990) SW: Passa

http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM6NV1_McGees_Stone_Castle_and_Fromans_Road_and_Station

Historical Marker: McGee's Stone Castle and Froman's Road and Station

Quick Description: Double sided marker noting one of the first stone houses in the area and the wagon road and supporting stations.

Side 1

"Froman's road and station - one mile to the northwest, Paul Froman, grandson of pioneer Joist Hite, cut his wagon road in 1781 from the Salt River stations near Bullitt's Lick to his new station (1782) on the east side of Froman's Creek. First improved road south of Towne branch of Salt. New fort sped settlement of central Nelson County. 2005 Kentucky Historical Society Kentucky Department of Highways 2168"

Side 2

"McGee's Stone Castle ~ Paul Froman's in-laws, Thomas, John, and Patrick McGee, jointly acquired the 1000 - acre Froman claim. Patrick McGee, mason, hunter, land-locator, salt-maker, ferry and tavern operator, built Stone Castle beside Froman's Station before 1790. One of first stone houses built after settlement of central Kentucky. given by McGee families & Cox's Station DAR. 2005 Kentucky Historical Society Kentucky Department of Highways 2168"

Group(s) Responsible for placing Marker:

McGee families & Cox's Station DAR

Kentucky Historical Society

Kentucky Department of Highways

Ancestry Message Board for Froman, posted by Gary E. Young, 28 Jan 2009

It was Paul Froman Jr who built both the Station later called Brashear's on the Salt River and the Froman's Station in Nelson County in the Cox's Creek neighborhood on Froman's Creek. The Isaac Froman who gave the deposition before the Bullitt Co Circuit Court in 1807 was the son of PAUL despite the fact that McDowell and other good Kentucky historians confused him with the son of Jacob by the same name. Jacob's son was not even born when the 1779 expedition took place that Isaac Froman described. Isaac says in his deposition that he remained at the Station on the Salt River until the Spring of 1781 when he moved with "my father" 17 miles away. Of course, this was the second Froman's Station built in the Spring of 1781 in the Cox's Creek neighborhood (later Nelson County). McDowell was a superb historian working in original records, but not such a good genealogist. A Nelson County deposition by Stephen Vittitow further clarified all when he mentions a wagon road between Paul Froman's Station on the Salt River to Paul's Station on Cox's Creek--clearly showing one Paul Froman built both Stations. Paul's brother Jacob was particularly involved at Fort Nonsense--Froman's Folly. He was nearly 15 years younger than his older brother. Jacob's son Isaac lived almost his whole life in Bullitt's County dying there in 1867 probably explaining the confusion of the historians, but he was not even alive in the Spring of 1779 when Paul's son, Isaac, was involved in the expedition from the Falls of the Ohio to the place that became Froman's Station/Brashear's Station/Salt River Garrison.

Christening

Christening:

Date: 16 MAY 1735

Place: Opequon, Frederick County, VA^[4]

• • • Opequon not in Pennsylvania, it is in Virginia; the Rev John Casper Stoever, was from Pennsylvania and traveled to Virginia. The Log was transcribed by the Pennsylvania Historical Society - Christopher L. Coleman.

John was born about 1734. He passed away about 1820. ^[5]

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Date: 9 DEC 2009

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Ancestral File Number

Ancestral File Number: FNW4-4T

Sources

1. ↑ Profile[Froman-7] Paul Froman Jr. adopted by Jon Cunnyngham on 16 Dec 2012.
2. ↑ Regina is the daughter of Paul Froman, born in Germany prior to their emigration.
3. ↑ Henry Speers migrated to the Shenandoah Valley with Paul Froman in 1732.
4. ↑ Source: #S80 Page: p.9
5. ↑ Source will be added by Donald Hardesty by 29 Jul 2017.

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• Source: Abbreviation: Frye - Hank Adams Title: Henderson L. "Hank" Adams, correspondence and copies of his Frey and Spears family records. Note: 1008 Beachview Drive CONT Ft. Walton Beach FL 32547 CONT (850) 862-4671 Repository: #R1
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• Source: Abbreviation: Records of Rev. John Casper Stoever Title: Compiled by Mildred Smith , Records of Rev. John Casper Stoever. CONT CONT Marriages CONT Baptisms <https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/009573571>

• Source: S80 Abbreviation: Stoever Baptisms & Marriages Title: Index by Elizabeth P. Bently, Early Lutheran Baptisms and Marriages in Southeastern Pennsylvania. The Records of Rev. John Casper Stoever from 1730 to 1779 (Baltimore, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc. 1982) Repository: #R11 Call Number: F148 .S87
• Repository: R11 Name: National Genealogical Society Address: Lending Library Address 1: Lending Library Note: The Lending Library of NGS was moved to St. Louis; the books may be obtained on Interlibrary Loan.
• Source: Abbreviation: Palatine Families of New York Title: Henry Z. Jones, Jr., The Palatine Families of New York: A Study of the German Immigrants Who Arrived in Colonial New York in 1710 (Universal City, CA 1985) Note: Copies in my file sent by Hunterdon NJ Historical Society. Also in Birmingham Library. Repository: #R1 Call Number: F130 .P2 J66

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