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Nathaniel Hobbs (1701 - 1748)

Nathaniel Hobbs
Born in Kirtling, Cambridgeshire, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married about 1 Oct 1722 in Dullingham, Cambridgeshire, Englandmap
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Died at about age 47 in Dullingham, Cambridgeshire, Englandmap
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Biography

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Nathaniel Hobbs was born in Cambridgeshire, England.

Nathaniel married Maria Randel on 1 October 1722 in Dullingham, Cambridgeshire, England.[1]

Buried 18 Aug 1737. Dullingham, Cambridgeshire.

Research

My unsourced Tree has Nathaniel passing away on 18 August 1737 in Dullingham as noted above in the bio as the date he was buried. The date above of 16 March 1748[2] is at variance with these two dates. There is an issue with the March death/burial information. Per Coleman-5109 below - Good transcript Dorset opc does not list any Hobbs buried at this site. There is support for the 18 Aug 1737 see FindMyPast image at Nathaniel Hobbs Parish Burial Record 18 Aug 1737, Dullingham Parish, Cambridgeshire, England FamilySearch Memory.[3]

Sources

  1. Marriage: "England Marriages, 1538–1973"
    FamilySearch Record: N6Q4-64N (accessed 20 March 2023)
    Nathaniel Hobbs marriage to Maria Randel on 1 Oct 1722 in Dullingham, Cambridgeshire, England, United Kingdom.
  2. Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/47331956/nathaniel-barrye-hobbs: accessed 9 February 2023), memorial page for Nathaniel Barrye Hobbs (Mar 1696–16 Mar 1748), Find A Grave: Memorial #47331956, citing St. Peter's Church, Dorchester, West Dorset District, Dorset, England; Maintained by Phillip Maine (contributor 47067456).
  3. Nathaniel Barrye Hobbs II FamilySearch Profile
  • "England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N6Q4-64N : 10 February 2018), Nathaniel Hobbs and Maria Randel, 1722; citing Dullingham, Cambridge, England, reference 2:39RS4PF, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,040,467.




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The graveyard for St Peter Dorchester no longer exists ( even if it did it's doubtful any inscription from 1748 would be legible. However both the parish register and bishop's transcript survive from this date

There is no burial of a Nathaniell Hobbs recorded. This is a good transcript Dorset opc but the original PR can be checked on Ancestry

posted by Helen (Coleman) Ford
edited by Helen (Coleman) Ford
Completed pending merge.

As part of this removed the suffix JR as this is not typically used by British people to differentiate between individuals of same name.

Also as per wikitree guidelines suffixes should not be added unless there is recorded proof ot was used.

posted by James Stewart
Hobbs-3506 and Hobbs-145 appear to represent the same person because: Clearly same person given the other relationships connected to each.
posted by James Stewart
Nathaniel Barrye HOBBS of Dorchester, England was a proprietor of a mercantile establishment. No mention is given of his wife but he is listed as the father of six sons and three daughters. Three sons came to America in 1735. Beale lived in Maryland for many years, then settled in Pennsylvania. William migrated to North Carolina and Vincent to Southwest Virginia.

Vincent HOBBS, Sr. arrived in America through the Port of Dover, Delaware with his two brothers, Beale and William, in 1735 at the age of about 15. It is believed they sailed from Cardiganshire, Wales, although family tradition states that the family is English. The immigrants remained in Delaware for most of two years while searching for land. They moved to Maryland in their search and Vincent settled near Hagerstown, MD, along the Potomac River. A Brief History of the Hobbs Family in Virginia Vincent Hobbs Sr. arrived in America with his two brothers Beale and William, in 1735 at the age of about 15. It is believed that they sailed from Cardiganshire, Wales, although family tradition states that the family is English. All three brothers settled in Maryland for a time; William eventually migrated to North Carolina, possibly into the part that is now East Tennessee. I have made no attempt to trace the families of Vincent's two brothers. Vincent settled originally on the frontier near present day Hagerstown Maryland, and in 1742 he married. Likely he was married twice. Vincent had eleven known children, probably all born in Maryland. In 1769 Vincent moved his entire family to Washington County, Virginia, and settled a fairly sizeable claim adjacent to that of John Benham, a famous Indian fighter who married Vincent's daughter Mary (Polly). In 1774 the Militia was called up because of Indian raids. Troops commanded by General Andrew Lewis engaged the Indians at the Battle of Point Pleasant, and the Shawnee and Mingo Nations were subdued. While it is not certain that Vincent participated, at least two of his sons, Vincent, Jr. and Job, were included in this number. Indian raids and massacres were, however, to continue well into the 1790's 25 years after Vincent's arrival. In 1780 Vincent moved his family further onto the frontier, settling in the Powell Valley (now Lee County, Virginia, still subjected to frequent and intense Indian raids. In spite of the fact that a company of militia was sent to protect them. many settler were killed or captured. One Of those captured was Vincent Hobbs' son William who was tortured and either burned to death or buried alive. Vincent returned his family to their original settlement in Washington County, the following spring. Family Notes: Vincent Hobbs, Jr. and Chief Benge's Last Raid: Excerpts from "Indian Raids and Massacres of SW Virginia" by Luther F. Addington and Emory L. Hamilton. The settlers in Southwest Virginia had a lot of trouble with the Indians. Chief Benge, a half-breed Cherokee, with his band of frontier marauders on April 6, 1784 came to the Peter Livingston home and took Elizabeth Livingston, her children, her sister-in-law, and some of their negroes as prisoners. On April 7, they traveled about 20 miles. April 8th, Benge spoke freely to the prisoners and told them he was about to carry them to the Cherokee and Shawnee towns. He made inquiry about several persons in the area, particularly old General Shelby (?) and said he would pay him a visit during the summer and take away all his negroes. Benge was making his was to the Big Stone Gap. In Summers History, quoting a manuscript letter of Benamin Sharp, it is written: Vincent Hobbs(brother to Hannah Blanton) was a lieutenant in the militia of Lee County Virginia and at the time in question, he was attending court of that county, which was in session; the court immediately adjourned with the news of the Indian invasion. A party was organized under the command of Hobbs, to waylay the group in the Cumberland at a place called Stone Gap. Arthur Campbell, in a letter to the Governor of Virginia dated April 29, 1794, said "I send the scalp of Benge, that noted murderer, as requested by Lieutenant Hobbs, to your excellency... as proof that he is no more, and of the activity and good conduct of Lieutenant Hobbs in killing him and relieving the prisoners. Could it be spared from our treasury, I would beg leave to hint that a present of a neat rifle to Mr. Hobbs would be accepted as a reward for his services, and the executive may rest assured that it would serve as a stimulus for future exertions against the enemy." In accordance with the recommendations of Colonel Campbell, the General Assembly of Virginia voted Mr. Hobbs a "beautiful silver-mounted rifle." Land Records: Lee Co., VA DB #l: Pg 12: 10 Sept. 1793 ~ James Arbuckle and Mary his wife, to Vincent Hobbs, 330 acres on both sides Powell River. Pg: 43: 13 Sept. 1796 - Vincent Hobbs and Hannah, his wife to John Angie containing 9500 acres Wm Munseys land crossing Carr Baileys corner... Pg 49:13 Sept. 1796 - Vincent Hobbs and wife Hannah to Wm Munsey ... 225 acres on North side Powell. Signed Vincent and Mary Hobbs (by their marks) All of the above notes and records from: Sandra Blanton.

Hobbs-1163 and Hobbs-3506 do not represent the same person because: Hobbs-1163 is 25 years younger than Hobbs-3506. Since 3506 has a son Nathaniel, it seems more likely that they are son and father rather than the same person.
posted by Nancy (Diener) Regan

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