In 1709, his family departed for America, arriving in New York in June 1710. While most of the Palatine migrants who arrived at that time were soon transported north to Livingston Manor and vicinity, his family was part of a group of about 350 immigrants who remained in the city of New York until the spring of 1711. The family of Johann Phillip Greisler was enumerated on a subsistence list of Palatines in New York, consisting of Johann Philip, 40; Catherine, 40; John George, 11; and Johannes, 7. In subsistence lists from the year 1711, the family was counted as including one child under age 10, but in a list dated 25 March 1712, Johannes appears to be counted as a person above the age of ten. This led Brownyard to suggest that he was born about 1701.[2]
Hannes married Eva Catharina Manck (born: 1701 in Germany) by about 1725 in New York. Record of their marriage has not been found.
Children
Children of Johannes (Hannes) Kreisler and wife Eva Catharina were:[3]
Anna Margareta, baptized at Loonenburg, New York, on 15 September 1726 at age 7 weeks; with sponsors Philip Kreisler and Margaret Manken.
Wilhelmus b. 26 July 1727; baptized at Loonenburg.
Johannes b. 1 Dec. 1728; baptized at Loonenburg.
Elisabeth(a) baptized 9 March 1732 at Catskill, New York.
Margreta or Margaretha, born 2 Aug. 1733; baptized at Loonenburg.
Catharina, born 23 March 1735, baptized 31 March 1735, at Loonenburg.[4]
Marytje (Maria), born 16 May 1736, baptized 19 May 1736 at Loonenburg.
Matthys (Matthias), born 13 Aug. 1737, baptized at Loonenburg.
Henrich born 24 September 1739, baptized 24 October 1739 at Loonenburg
Anna, baptized 2 March 1742, recorded at German Reformed Church, Rhinebeck. (Born 1741?)
Leonora Cattarina, baptized 24 Dec. 1743, recorded at German Reformed Church, Rhinebeck.
Descendants of this family can be texted through DNA:
Johann Philipp Greisler /Kreissler or Kreussler (Hunter List 249)
Johann Wilhelm Kreussler b. 1560, Elz, Germany, d. 1621, Germany
Johann Casper Kreussler, b. 1594, NiederHadamer, Germany; d. 1635, Germany
Johann Friedrich Kreussler, b. 1630, Flacht, Germany; d. 1685, Germany
Johann Philip Kreissler, b. 1668, Niederniesen, Germany; m. Ann Catherine Braun
Johannes Kreissler, b. 1703, Guntersbloom, Germany; m. Eva Catherine Manck
Wilhelmus Greisler, b. 1727, East Camp, NY; m. Catherine Schauer
George Jury Chrisler, b. 1776, Johnstown, NY; m. Rebecca Sullivan
Martin Chrisler, b. 1812, Marcellus, NY; m. Caroline Wood
Tyrannus Crysler, b. 1835, Marcellus, NY; m. Sarah Ann Lay
Elmer Crysler, b. 1864, Pittsfield, MI; m. Gertrude Robbins
Frederick M. Crysler, b. 1893, Detroit, MI; m. Viola Yvaughn Brown
DNA Testee: kit #207298
Sources
↑ The baptism date of 2 December 1703 appears to be from either of both Walter P. Chrysler, his German Roots, by Karin Holl, or Even More Palatine Families by HZ Jones and LB Rohrbach. Clarification of the sourcing is needed.
↑ Brownyard, Theodore I. "Descendants of Johan Philip Kreisler," New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, Vol. 105 (1974), pages 2 and 4
↑ Brownyard, Theodore I. "Descendants of Johan Philip Kreisler," New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, Vol. 105 (1974), pages 4-5
↑ "Baptismal Records Zion Lutheran Church, Lo.onenberg, Greene Co., N.Y.," New York Genealogical and Biographical Record. Vol. 82 (1951), page 30.
↑ U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s, Record for Johannes Greisler Ancestry Record 7486 #4249837, citing MACWETHY, LOU D. The Book of Names: Especially Relating to The Early Palatines And the First Settlers in the Mohawk Valley. St. Johnsville, New York: Lou D. MacWethy, 1933. Reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1969, 1981, 1985. Page 121. Place: New York, New York; Year: 1710.
Holl, Karin (Pfåalzich-Rheinische Familienkunde e. V.). Walter P. Chrysler, his German Roots, 2001. Translated into English by family researcher. Don Chrysler
Jones, Henry Z., Jr. The Palatine Families of New York: A Study of the German Immigrants Who Arrived in Colonial New York in 1710, Volume I. Universal City, CA: Author, PO Box 8341, Universal City, CA, 1985. 624p., pub. at Ancestry.com.
Jones, Henry Z., and L. B. Rohrbach, Even More Palatine Families (2002), vol 3, p. 1703
Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 27 November 2020), memorial page for Johannes Kreisseler (Nov 1703–unknown), Find A Grave: Memorial #106206676, ; Maintained by Steven Showers (contributor 47715988) Unknown.
Acknowledgements
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DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Hannes by comparing test results with other carriers of his Y-chromosome or his mother's mitochondrial DNA.
However, there are no known yDNA or mtDNA test-takers in his direct paternal or maternal line.
It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Hannes:
Can we drop the name Georg here? Jones uses simply Johannes which distinguishes from his brother Johann Georg. All the current details for each of the brothers agree with Jones.
About the Kreisler-9 merge, there was a Johann Georg who was the brother of Johannes, but the husband of Eva Catharina was Johannes and the death date is plausibly Johannes’. Almost nothing is lost in the merge.
Greisler-1 and Kreisler-9 appear to represent the same person because: IN spite of the difference in spelling and date, I believe these are the same person.
Johannes is similar to how Catholic names will have a baptismal name like Joseph.
It seems that until we can prove this Johannes is also Georg/George this merge seems preemptive. Let’s look through some records and verify naming differences more in-depth. I rejected simply to avoid having a merge we need to break up later if we get new info.
The wives appear to be different albeit married in same year.
Kreiseler-6 and Kreisler-9 appear to represent the same person because: same person; same wife - wives will need merging after the husbands are all merged
Kreiseler-6 and Kreisler-28 do not represent the same person because: Both of these profiles should be merged into Kreisler-9 which is the lowest numbered profile with correct spelling.
Kreiseler-6 and Kreussler-3 appear to represent the same person because: = Research Notes =
Margaretha was the daughter of Johannes Kreisseler (baptised on 2 December 1703 in Guntersblum, Lower Palatinate, Germany) and Anna Eva Catherina Manck who married about 1725.**
Possible mothers name Manck vs Unknown. If so then there is a duplicate
Hard to see how he could have lived to 1753 when his wife had remarried before that date.
I removed the "sources" and the unsourced death date.
It seems that until we can prove this Johannes is also Georg/George this merge seems preemptive. Let’s look through some records and verify naming differences more in-depth. I rejected simply to avoid having a merge we need to break up later if we get new info.
The wives appear to be different albeit married in same year.
Possible mothers name Manck vs Unknown. If so then there is a duplicate
1 - https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Manck-8 Eva-Catherine Find A Grave: Memorial #106399503 name Anna Eva Catherina Manck
2 - https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Unknown-493666 Eva-Catherine Unknown
Anna Eva or Eva-Catherine married so we now have duplicated her father
1 - https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Kreiseler-6 Hannes Kreiseler
2 - https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Kreussler-3 Johannes Kreiseler
Now for Margaretha's grandfather we also have duplicates
1. - https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Manck-6 Jacob Manck Find A Grave: Memorial #106417992 name Jacob Manck
2 - https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Monk-817 Jacob Monk
Now for Margaretha's grandmother we also have duplicates
1 - https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lautner-13 Anna Margaretha
2 - https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Unknown-272690 Anna Margaretha