Robert Mansell Sr.
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Robert John Mansell Sr. (1741 - 1819)

Robert John Mansell Sr.
Born in Orange, Province of Virginiamap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 1765 in Virginiamap
Descendants descendants
Died at age 77 in Bethania, Stokes, North Carolina, USAmap
Profile last modified | Created 28 Jun 2013
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Contents

Biography

Robert Mansell married Elizabeth Pratt about 1764.[citation needed]

Stokes County, N.C. Will Book #3, Page 33 lists the children of Robert Mansell as being (listed in this order)

  1. Robert Mansell, (Jr.),
  2. John Mansell,
  3. James Mansell,
  4. Richard Mansell,
  5. Elizabeth Mansell,
  6. Mary Mansell,
  7. Francis Gassaway-45

The DAR Patriot Index - Centennial Edition - Part II (1990) claims they had a total of ten children.

Disputed Origins

A previous version of this profile claimed that Robert was son of Samuel Mansell (1715-1779) and Susanna Gassaway (1725-1784); working against this theory:

  • Robert was born about 1740 in Orange Co., Virginia.[citation needed]
  • Samuel and Susannah were born and died in Maryland; Susannah was only 15 years of age in 1740.
  • At present, the Daughters of the American Revolution (DAR) indicates Robert Mansell was not the son of Samuel Mansell and Susannah Eleanor Gassaway.
  • There are some sources that state the marriage of Samuel and Susannah occurred in 1737 or 1748.[citation needed] Since Susannah has a birth date of 1725, it would be more likely that they would have married closer to 1748, not as early as 1737. In either case, the birth of Robert, who was born in 1741, being Susannah's son is even more unlikely, based on her age at the time of his birth.
  • All of the sources for Samuel state he was in Maryland. There is nothing to show the family was in Virginia.

Census Records

Name Robert Mansell
Event Type Census
Event Date 1790
Event Place Fairfield, South Carolina
Page 171[1]
Name Robert Mansill
Event Type Census
Event Date 1800
Event Place Salisbury, Stokes, North Carolina
Page 472[2]

Robert Mansell, "United States Census, 1810[3]

Name Robert Mansell
Event Type Census
Event Date 1810
Event Place Bethaina, Stokes, North Carolina, United States
Page 569

Death Record

Robert Mansell, "North Carolina Estate Files, 1663-1979[4]

Name Robert Mansell
Event Type Probate
Event Year 1819
Event Place Stokes, North Carolina, United States
Number of Names with File 1
File Name Robert Mansell
First Image Number 648
Last Image Number 722
Number of Images 75

Will

Robert Mansell's Will[5]

Research Notes

Other info on Robert from genealogy.com page: [6]

Culpepper County, Virginia: 1762 - 1775; Fairfield County, South Carolina: July 1777 - Nov 1794; Culpepper County,Virginia: Sept. 1795 - June 1798; Stokes County, North Carolina: 1799 till death (1819)

NOTE: Almost all information on the Mansells from "Robert and Elizabeth Mansell and Their Descendants," compiled by Edna Bond Ripley and Kathy Mancell Cornwell. Their sources include: courthouse records (1790-1900), land grants and tax lists from TN Archives, cemetery records, obituaries, old letters, "The Mobleys and Their Connections," 1915, William Woodward Dixon, family records from the descendants of Richard Mansell of Jackson Co., TN, and James mansell of Pickens Co., SC; family records from the descendants of William Carr and Luke Mayfield; and personal searches of Forsythe Co., NC, Fairfield & Pickens Co., SC, Jackson, Putnam and McMinn Counties, TN, and White, Hamilton, Franklin and Macoupin Counties, IL.

Death/Buried -- (Near Bethania, NC now Forsyth Co. NC) -- on homestead, no headstones.

Thomas-7679 04:11, 25 March 2020 (UTC) Samuel Mansell and Susannah Gassaway removed as parents as per the 'Uncertain Parents' section, comments posted to this profile and the discussion on the G2G post - https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/984069/profile-havwhat-solution-believe-parents-profile-correct

DNA

This is the Mansell DNA group Project.

Sources

  1. 1790 U.S. Census of Fairfield, SC. [1]
  2. 1800 U.S. Census of Salibury, Stokes, NC. [2]
  3. "United States Census, 1810," database with images, FamilySearch ([htthttps://www.ancestry.com/interactive/7590/4440904_00571/341560?backurl=https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/70427706/person/42217828242/facts/citation/281810502657/edit/recordps://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XH2V-3YT] : accessed 30 December 2017), Robert Mansell, Bethaina, Stokes, North Carolina, United States; citing p. 569, NARA microfilm publication M252 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 43; FHL microfilm 337,916.
  4. "North Carolina Estate Files, 1663-1979," database with images, FamilySearch ([3] : 21 November 2016), Robert Mansell, 1819; citing Stokes, North Carolina, United States, State Archives, Raleigh; FHL microfilm .
  5. will
  6. Genealogy.com page re: Family of Jesse Mansell, son of Richard R 1800s TN

See also:

  • [4] 20 Dec 1764 Deed of Gift from Jonathan Pratt of Culpeper Co. to son James Pratt of the afores'd Co. for love & affection 183 acres in s'd Co., a part whereof Robert Mansell now liveth. Noted in margin, Del'd to Thomas Pratt April 1781. Culpeper Co., Deed Book D Pg. 545.
  • Mike Mansell -- Census 1790 Fairfield Co, SC 12402 (22)
  • Census 1800 -- Stokes Co,NC, 00101-00101-04(564)
  • Census 1810 -- poss Stokes Co, (9 slaves)
  • L: Planter & Blacksmith, and at one time manufactured some sort of cloth.
  • L: 1762-1775/Sept. Culpepper Co. VA
  • L: 1767 Culpepper Co. VA buy 300ac land
  • L: 7/1777-11/1794 Fairfield Co, SC
  • L:1777 Fairfield, Co SC Terrible Creek, buy 300 ac
  • L: 1788, Fairfield Co, SC sells some land in Culpepper Co, VA
  • L: 9/1795 - 6/1798 Culpepper Co. VA
  • L: 1795 Culpepper Co.,VA buy 96 ac
  • L: 1797 Stokes Co, NC , buy land (lived here rest of his life with 3 daughters and Robert Jr.)
  • L: 1798 Culpepper Co, VA sell 96 ac
  • L: 1799-1819, Stokes Co, NC

Acknowledgments

Thank you to Stephanie Ross for creating WikiTree profile Mansell-129 through the import of Ledbetter01.ged on Jun 8, 2013.





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Hello Stephanie and Linda, as I haven't heard back from you regarding my message below, I plan to remove Samuel Mansell and Susannah Gassaway as the parents of Robert in a couple of days. Please get back to me or respond to the G2G question as soon as possible if you have any concerns about this. I'll complete the proposed merge at the same time. Kind regards, Gillian
posted by Gillian Thomas
Hi Stephanie and Linda, it seems that Samuel Mansell and Susannah Sassaway may not be Robert Mansell's parents (see points under the 'Uncertain Parents' heading on this profile, and the discussion under this G2G question https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/984069/profile-havwhat-solution-believe-parents-profile-correct). A merge of this profile with Robert Mansell Sr. is ready to be completed and it would be great to resolve this issue in conjunction with completing the merge. Please could you get back to me, or contribute to the G2G question, particularly if you have any sources for Robert's parents. Alternatively, if you agree that the parents don't seem to be correct it would be great if you could let us know that too! Thanks so much, Gillian
posted by Gillian Thomas
Mansell-744 and Mansell-129 appear to represent the same person because: Same wife, same son, similar birth and death details. Thanks for reviewing.
posted by Gillian Thomas
Mansell-744 and Mansell-129 appear to represent the same person because: Same wife, same son, similar birth and death details. Thanks for reviewing.
posted by Gillian Thomas
Mansell-129 and Mansell-482 appear to represent the same person because: same name, same dates, same places
Do you have the siblings of Robert John Mansell? Did he have a brother named Edward Green?
posted by James Manscill

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