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Thomas Moore Jr. (abt. 1611 - 1691)

Thomas Moore Jr.
Born about in Englandmap
Husband of — married before 11 Jul 1636 in Salem, Essex, Massachusettsmap [uncertain]
Husband of — married 1680 in Southold, East Riding, Yorkshire, Province of New Yorkmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 80 in Southold, Suffolk County, New Yorkmap
Profile last modified | Created 20 May 2011
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Biography

This is the Thomas Moore of Salem, Massachusetts Not to be confused with John and Thomas Moore of Windsor, Hartford, Connecticut {whose parents are unknown}.

Uncertain Origin

This profile originally asserted, without source a birth of 5 Jun 1616 in Outlaw, Suffolk, England. His parents origins are not known (stated without source as Southwold, Suffolk, England by Belknap in his "Grafton Family"[1]). His claimed-but-unproven sister Mary married first Edmund Henfield by about 1622 based on the baptisms of their children at St. Nicholas, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk and then Joseph Grafton on 30 August 1631 at the same place as "widow Henfield" before emigrating to Massachusetts in 1637. IF Mary was his sister and it is possible but NOT PROVEN then likely this family was from somewhere not too far from Great Yarmouth.

Given his birthdate asserted by Torrey in "New England Marriages to 1700" and using WikiTree standards for age 25 at first marriage for a male, that puts his birthdate at "about 1611".[2]

According to Bill Puttman, Thomas Moore and his parents came from Southwold, Suffolk County in England to the Puritan Colony at Salem, Massachusetts about 1630 (without evidence).[citation needed] (again, Puttman does not cite Belknap who originally made the unsupported Southwold origin claim in 1928 but this is certainly his Puttman's source).

Thomas and wife Martha Moore were granted land in Salem in 1636[3] and widow Ann Moore was first recorded there in 1637 shown by early Salem Land Grants, cited by Belknap:[1]

In the first list of grants, Dec 26, 1636 to July 12, 1637 is the entry, 'Tho: Mores widdow 10 acres

Marriage and Children

Thomas married twice:

Thomas married, by 31 July 1636, probably at either Salem or Southold, Long Island to Martha Youngs whom Torrey listed as "sister of Christopher Youngs of Salem".[2][4] On that date the couple was accepted as residents of Salem.[5] They moved to Southold on Long Island, New York in about 1651, and it was here their daughter, Elizabeth married Richard Clark.[4] All of Thomas's children were by his first wife Martha Youngs Moore

Children baptized in Salem were:[6]

  • Hanna, d. Thomas, bp. 29: 10m: 1644, CR1
  • Martha, d. Thomas, bp. 21: 8m: 1639, CR1
  • Thomas, s. Thomas, bp. 21: 8m: 1639, CR1
  • Benjamin, s. Thomas, bp. 2: 6m: 1640, CR
  • Elizabeth, d. Thomas, bp. 31: 11m: 1646, CR1
  • Jonathan, s. Thomas, bp. 3: 4m: 1649, CR1
  • Nathaniell, s. Thomas, bp. 3: 5m: 1652, CR1
  • Mary, d. Thomas, bp. 15: 10m: 1650, CR1
  • Benjamin, s. John, bp. 18: 5m: 1641, CR1 might be confused with Thomas’ son.
  • Thomas married, as his second, to Katharine Waring [NOTE: Westcott is incorrect. See discussion in the Katharine Waring's profile]. She had been twice widowed, 1) Thomas Doxy of New London and 2) Daniel Lane also of New London.[4]

Occupation

Event: Shipbuilder FROM 1651 TO 1691 Southold, Suffolk, Long Island, NY Note: He was a shipwright and shipbuilder. His shipyard was south of his home on Town Creek. In his time, Town Creek came up the east side of his property past the Main Road.

Residences and Property

Thomas immigrated c. 1630 to Salem with his parents and siblings.[7] He and Martha were married in 1636 when they were accepted as inhabitants of Salem. After their marriage, they were allocated "one fishing lot on the neck," and in 1636 they received another 20-acre grant.[7]

On December 27, 1642, Thomas Moore was made a Freeman at Salem. Not long after, he removed to Long Island. By 1644, the Salem Church issued dismissal papers. A son was baptized at Salem in 1650, and shortly after in 1651, the family removed to Southold with other followers of Martha's brother, the Reverend John Youngs.[7]

He was also chosen Constable in 1658. He was a magistrate under the later Dutch rule in 1673. In 1671 wife Martha died and about 1680 Thomas remarried.

Offices

On May 26, 1658, Thomas was chosen from Southold as Deputy from Southold to the General Court of the New Haven Colony.

Death

Thomas Moore remained in Southold until his own death on June 27, 1691. His will was written on June 23rd, and he died four days later. It would appear his second wife was still alive (a three-time widow), at that time.

25 June 1691 "... Judge of ye Prerogative Court was proved & approved the last Will & testamt of Thomas Moore deceased at Southhold ye 25th day of June Anno Dom 1691 and having by his said Will & testamt nominated & appointed his sons Thomas & Nathaniell Moore his Executors."

Last Will & Testament

Will written June 23, 1691; proved 30 Sept 1691.[8][9]

In ye name of God Amen--I Thomas Moore of Southhold in ye County of Suffolk on Long Island in ye Province of N. Yorke being Exercized under the afflicting hand of God with great weakness yet of sound memory do make constitute & ordain this writing to be my last Will & Testamt, first I bequeath my soul into ye hands of God who gave it and my body being dead to be decently buried in hopes of its resurrection at ye last day unto Eternal life & as for my wordly estate my debts & funeral charges being first paid I do order give dispose & bequeath in manner & form foll..
Impm is. I do give & bequeath unto my wife Catharine Moore one third of all my goods lands commonages & meadow lands dwelling houses barns orchards garden fences & fencing stuffe corn cattle horse kind sheep swine household goods of whatsoever sorts that are now belonging & appertaining unto me within the whole town bounds of Southhold & every part & parcel of sd goods land estate above mentioned to have & hold to her my said wife Katharine Moore with all the issues profits whatsoever during her widowhood or natural life if she marry not & no longer to be fully freely enjoyed by her. .
Item--I give & bequeath unto my eldest son Thomas Moore all my lands together with ye appurtenances lying & being in Westhold near ye fresh pond by ye wading river-- .
Item--I do give & bequeath unto my third son Nathaniell Moore all my lands & meadows allotments of lands right of lands commonages meadow lands dwelling houses houses buildings barns orchards gardens fencing stuffe fencing within the old bounds of ye town that is to say between Wm Wells & Toms Creek head. .
Item--I give & bequeath unto my daughters namely Martha Symons Hannah Symons Elizabeth Grover & Sarah Glover all my household goods of whatsoever sort equally to be divided amongst them-- .
Also my will is that all the lands estate that are or is herein given to my said sons they shall have hold & enjoy to them their heirs & assigns forever-- .
Lastly--My Will is that my beloved sons Thomas Moore & Nathaniell Moore shall be the only Executors of this my last Will & Testamt. dated at Southhold this 23d of June in ye 3d year of ye reigne of our sovereigne Lord Willm ye 3d King of England & defender of ye faith &c. Anno Dom. 1691
Witness my hand & seale--
Thomas Moore
Signed sealed & delivered before

Judge of ye Prerogative Court was proved & approved the last Will & testamt of Thomas Moore deceased at Southhold ye 25th day of June Anno Dom 1691 and having by his said Will & testamt nominated & appointed his sons Thomas & Nathaniell Moore his Executors." Eight of his children were baptized in Salem, Mass.


Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 “The Grafton family of Salem” Reprinted from the historical collections of the Essex Institute, volume LXIV, by Henry Wyckoff Belknap. p 1 -4. Essex Institute. Salem, Massachusetts. 1928. The Grafton family of Salem
  2. 2.0 2.1 MOORE, Thomas (?1615-) & 1/wf Martha [YOUNGS] (1613-1671), sis Christopher YOUNGS of Salem; by 31 Jul 1636; Salem/Southold, LI $subscription required]
  3. Annals of Salem, annals from its first settlement. Felt, Joseph B. (Joseph Barlow), 1789-1869 Note: Salem, W. & S. B. Ives, 1827
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 Putman, Bill, Youngs Family History. accessed 14 Feb 2021. Unsourced site that makes unsupported claims such as a Moore emigration in 1630 and that Mary Moore married Joseph Grafton in Salem; she did not, she married Edmund Henfield and then Joseph Grafton both in Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, England
  5. Perley, Sidney, The History of Salem, Massachusetts, 3 vols. (Salem, Mass.: Sidney Perley, 1924) Vol 1 p. 363
  6. Vital Records of Salem Massachusetts to the end of the year 1849 - Volume 2 Births M-Z, Published by The Essex Institute Salem, Mass. 1918 - Moore pp. 81-83 C. R. 1 (Church record, First Church - see p. 5) Archive.org
  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 Putman, Bill, The Moore Family accessed 14 February 2021.
  8. Pelletreau, William S. Early Long Island wills of Suffolk county, 1691-1703. an unabridged copy of the manuscript volume known as "The Lester will book;" being the record of the Prerogative court of the county of Suffolk, New York, with genealogical and historical notes. (New York : F. P. Harper, 1987) - pp. 30-32: Will of Thomas Moore of Southhold Archive.org
  9. Also reprinted as part of Alfred Holman, A register of the ancestors of Dorr Eugene Felt and Agnes (McNulty) Felt, Chicago: Private Printing (1921), pp 82-83
  • The annals of Salem, from its first settlement.

Author: Felt, Joseph B. (Joseph Barlow), 1789-1869 Note: Salem, W. & S. B. Ives, 1827, p. 554

See also:

  • VITAL RECORDS of SALEM, MASS. to the end of year 1849 SALEM BIRTHS to the end of the year, 1849 Published by The Essex Institute Salem, Mass., 1916 Transcribed by Coralyn Brown
  • Anderson, Robert Charles, (John Moore: Featured Name) The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, (Volumes I-III Pages 1276-). (Online database accessed 4 Jan 2016:

AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2010)

  • Rufus King, "Early Settlers of Southold, L. I.," in The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record. New York, NY: New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, 1870-. (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2011.)" Vol. 30, p. 121.subscribers

Acknowledgments

  • Thank you to Bill Putman for publishing your research on the Moore and Youngs families.




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I doubt that some of the records are accurate in Annuals of Salem, the First Church of Salem history mentions that the records were sequestered (hidden away) because they were wet torn and not legible, it was not until 1751 that they were copied and not without errors. If Thomas Moore married in 1636 it would have impossible for him to have married the daughter of Rev. Christopher Yonges who was the passenger on the Ship Mary Ann and arrived in Salem in 1637. Page 10 Town of Southampton, Long Island person Index prior to 1698 "Budd John born in England 1620 died 5th of November 1684 left London in 1635 in the same vessel with John Moore aged 28 and Thomas Moore aged 19 married Mary Budd as early as 1653.
posted by A. F. Miranda
I have looked at the family before, but not from the perspective of Thomas Moore, nor have I put the different dates under a microscope.

In 2016, Hal Bradley included Martha Youngs, bp Southold, ... 1613 in the child list of Rev. Christopher and Margaret (_____) Youngs. Further associating her has the wife of Thomas Moore. For Martha's entry, Bradley cites

Selah Youngs, Jr., Youngs Family ... (New York, 1907), 14, 38-39, and Charles B. Moore, "The Moore Family of Southold, L.I.," NYGGR 15(1884):57-68, at 59. Also J. Gardner Bartlett, Ancestry of Daniel Bushnell (Boston, 1918), 34, 55.

At footnote 41, Bradley writes, "Thomas Moore m. (2) Katherine (----) (Doxy) Lane, widow of (1) Thomas Doxy and (2) Daniel Lane."

By subscription, see AmericanAncestors.

How should we proceed to resolve the conflict you pose? --Gene

posted by GeneJ X
edited by GeneJ X
I'm not sure there is a conflict. Why do you think Martha Yonges was a passenger on the Mary Anne in 1637? There was no Martha on this ship. There was a Mary Yonge, but she was a daughter of her brother John Yonges.

It seems more likely that she arrived on the Love in 1635. This ship was captained by her brother Joseph Yonges and delivered other members of this family. "He brought with him his sister Mary, and her husband, William Brown, and doubtless his own family, and that of his brother Christopher, to Salem, Mass."

posted by Joe Cochoit
In the Annals of Salem, second edition, p. 172-175

[1]

  • Moore’s in Salem. 1630’s
  • Samuel, John, Hannah, 1632,1633
  • Widow Ann, Richard, Christian, William
  • “Thomas and wife Martha “ in 1636
posted by Anne X
edited by Anne X
In Anderson's profile of John Moore (see 1st source listed here) it is stated that Thomas Moore of Dorchester and Windsor was probably his brother, and that John Moore's origins are unknown. The parents and birth place and specific death date should be removed unless a more recent source is located. I find none. A disputed origins section can contain that data if there is a souce to be cited. I would expect his birth to be 21+ years before the date of 3 September 1633 if he was a legal witness to John Russell's will, or by 1612.
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
His mother would have been 46? Problematic, no? Gets even more problematic if we can't source her birthdate and it's been cheated forward just to make the kids plausible; as she is just as likely to be 51 as 46, the year her supposed son is born. That would be incredible. (For example, it would be MORE credible that we're missing a generation and this man is the hypothetical grandson of his current parents, than he is their son, based on the current dates.)

So, I'm worried about this one. Are we sure this family structure is correct?

posted by Isaac Taylor
Hola, profile managers,

First, what is his birthplace supposed to be and how did it get here on WikiTree: Outlaw, Suffolk? Please remove this notional birthplace if we cannot source it. You were asked to do so below, way back 13 Dec 2015 at 04:10 GMT by Chase Ashley.

(That said, there IS some evidence online of Outlaw as a family surname in historical Suffolk county, England; and it is not impossible there was some village or hamlet by that name, if it were their family placename etc. But I sure can't find it on any map or site on the internet today; aside from tertiary genealogy sites that probably copy-and-pasted this "fact" from the same source we inherited it from.)

Secondly, does anyone know if it is this man's eventual residence in Southold, New York/Haven colony, which is being back-propagated to assert his family origin in Southold, England? I'd like to get to the bottom of where they actually came from, and this is either an actionable clue or (more likely) explanation for why earlier researchers bit on red herring...

Thoughts?

Cheers

posted by Isaac Taylor
THe narrative indicates his origins are not known, but he's attached to parents. Shall we detach them? If not, what is the proof for their identity as his parents? Thanks.
posted by Jillaine Smith
There is a Martha Moor widdow on the 1698 census Southold.

See. [1]. Whose widow is she?

posted by Anne X
Moore-18055 and Moore-3746 appear to represent the same person because: Removing duplicate (slightly confused profile). Merging into profile same person with same death date.
posted by Anne B
Elizabeth and Thomas should be disconnected and merged away. See bio. Objections???
posted by Anne B
What source supports June 5, 1616, Outlaw, Suffolk, England as his date and place of birth? Did a town called Outlaw even exist?
posted by Chase Ashley
Thomas Moore most likely was born in England the first English settlement in CT was in Windsor, but did not happen until 1633

http://connecticuthistory.org/connecticuts-oldest-english-settlement/

also, the first English settlement in Suffolk. NY was in 1640:

http://www.shelter-island.org/settlers.html

posted by Doug Lockwood
I need sources for this profile, this person does not belong in the Youngs family as shown.
posted by Robin Lee