John Neville (abt. 1387 - bef. 1420)

Born about 1387 in England

Ancestors

Husband of Elizabeth (Holland) Neville — married about 29 Aug 1394 in Brancepeth, County Durham, England

Descendants

Died before 20 May 1420 before about age 33 in France

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Biography

Family and Military Career

John was the eldest son of Ralph Neville, 1st earl of Westmorland, and his first wife, Margaret Stafford.^[1][2] He was likely of age before 1 December 1408 when the escheator was ordered to give him livery of his wife's 'pourparty' [sic] (her inheritance share), which points to a birthdate of 1387 or earlier.^[1][2][3]

He was the Keeper of Roxburgh Castle from 12 November 1408 until 1 August 1411,^[2][4] and Warden of the West March from 15 May 1414 until his death.^[2][5] He accompanied the king to France in 1417 and was present at the seiges of Caen^[6] and Rouen.^[7] On 2 October 1417 he was appointed to receive the surrender of the occupants of the castle of Coursy.^[1][2] Four weeks later he was made captain of the castle and town of Verneuil.^[8] In July 1419 he was made Keeper of the Warren of St John, Argences, in the baliwick of Caen.^[9]

Marriage

John married Elizabeth Holand, a younger daughter of Thomas Holand, 2nd earl of Kent, and Alice FitzAlan. The licence for their marriage at Brancepeth, Durham was dated 29 August 1394.^{[1][10][11][12]} There were at least four children from this marriage:

• Ralph Neville, 2nd earl Westmorland; born 4 April 1406;^[10][11][13] married (1) after 20 July 1426 Elizabeth Percy;^{[10][11][13][14]} married (2) before February 1442 Margaret Cobham;^{[10][11][13][14]} died 3 November 1484^{[10][11][13][14]}
• John Neville, Knt.; born c.1410;^[15] married before 5 February 1452 (date of 1st dispensation to remain in marriage) Anne Holand;^[16] second dispensation 27 July 1454;^[17] died 29 March 1461^[15][16]
• Thomas Neville, Knt.; married Elizabeth Beaumont;^[11][18] died after 16 January 1459 (date of will)^[18]
• Margaret Neville; married before 1424 (date of grant) William Lucy;^[19]died before 5 May 1434 (when her husband remarried)^[19]

Elizabeth Holand was co-heiress in 1408 to her brother Edmond, earl of Kent, and through him she inherited the manors of Chattiscombe (in Teverton), Kent (with the hundred of Lifton); Shebbear, Devon, and Allerton in Nottinghamsire; and G. Hemlington and Kirkby Moorside in Yorkshire.^[1][3]

Death

John Neville, Knt., died in France shortly before 20 May 1420 (in his father's lifetime).^[1][20] No inquisition post mortem has been found, although at least one historian has claimed that John Neville died at Verneuil^[21] and that seems likely.

His widow died 3 (or 4) January 1422/3 and was buried in the church of the Grey Friars at London.^[1][22][23]

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6} Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. Salt Lake City: the author (2013), vol. 4, pp. 238--240 NEVILLE 14 John Neville.
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4} Cokayne, George Edward. The Complete Peerage of the House of Lords and All Its Members From the Earliest Times. Revised edition. London: St Catherine Press (1959), vol. 12(2), p. 548.
3. ↑ ^{3.0 3.1} Calendar of Fine Rolls 1405-1413. (Hen. VI.) London: H.M. Stationery Office (1933), vol. 13, p. 137.
4. ↑ Bain, Joseph (ed.). Calendar of Documents Relating to Scotland. Edinburgh: H.M. General Register House (1881), vol. 4, p.163, nos. 808-810.
5. ↑ Rotuli Scotiæ. London: H.M. King George III (1819), vol. 2, pp. 210, 226.
6. ↑ Walsingham, Thomas. Historia Anglicana. London: Longman, Green, Longman, Roberts, and Green (1864), vol. 2, p. 322.
7. ↑ "The Siege of Rouen: A poem," in The Historical Collections of a Citizen of London in the Fifteenth Century, ed. James Gairdner (London: Camden Society, 1876), 1-46. British History Online, accessed February 24, 2024, http://www.british-history.ac.uk/camden-record-soc/vol17/pp1-46., citing "...also [present] Nevylle that nobylle knyght."
8. ↑ Rotuli Normanniae in Turri Londinensi Asservati... London: G. Eyre and A. Spottiswoode (1835), p. 193.
9. ↑ 42 Rep., D.K. Publ. Rec., App. p. 323, cited in Cokayne, George Edward. The Complete Peerage of the House of Lords and All Its Members From the Earliest Times. Revised edition. London: St Catherine Press (1959), vol. 12(2), p. 548, fn h.
10. ↑ ^{10.0 10.1 10.2 10.3 10.4} Hodgson, John Crawford. History of Northumberland. Newcastle-upon-Tyne: A. Reid, Sons & Co. (1893), pp. 78-79.
11. ↑ ^{11.0 11.1 11.2 11.3 11.4 11.5} Petre, J.A. The Nevilles of Brancepeth and Raby 1425-1499, pt. 1. The Ricardian, vol. 5 (1979-81), p. 419, available as a pdf here.
12. ↑ Misc. Chrs, no.6637; Scrip. Tres, p. clxxv; Dur. Acct. Rolls III, 600, cited in Dobson, R.B. Durham Priory 1400-1450. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press (1973), p. 185, fn4.
13. ↑ ^{13.0 13.1 13.2 13.3} Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. Salt Lake City: the author (2013), vol. 4, pp. 238--239 NEVILLE 14i. Ralph Neville.
14. ↑ ^{14.0 14.1 14.2} Tonge, Thomas. Heraldic Visitation of the Northern Counties in 1530. (Surtees Soc. #41) Durham: Frances Le Keux (1863), p. 15
15. ↑ ^{15.0 15.1} Cokayne, George Edward. The Complete Peerage of the House of Lords and All Its Members From the Earliest Times. London: St Catherine Press (1936), vol. 9, p. 504.
16. ↑ ^{16.0 16.1} Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. Salt Lake City: the author (2013), vol. 4, pp. 238-240 NEVILLE 15 John Neville.
17. ↑ "Vatican Regesta 430: 1454," in Calendar of Papal Registers Relating To Great Britain and Ireland: Volume 10, 1447-1455, ed. J A Twemlow (London: His Majesty's Stationery Office, 1915), 259-266. British History Online, accessed February 22, 2024, http://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-papal-registers/brit-ie/vol10/pp259-266.
18. ↑ ^{18.0 18.1} Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. Salt Lake City: the author (2013), vol. 4, p.239 NEVILLE 14iii. Thomas Neville.
19. ↑ ^{19.0 19.1} Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. Salt Lake City: the author (2013), vol. 3, pp. 6660-661 LUCY 14i. William Lucy.
20. ↑ Cokayne, George Edward. The Complete Peerage of the House of Lords and All Its Members From the Earliest Times. Revised edition. London: St Catherine Press (1959), vol. 12(2), p. 548, fn l.
21. ↑ Kingsford, Charles Lethbridge. English Historical Literature in the Fifteenth Century. New York: Burt Franklin (1913), p. 289.
22. ↑ Calendar of Fine Rolls 1422-1430. (Hen. VI.) London: H.M. Stationery Office (1935), vol. 15, p. 2.
23. ↑ Cokayne, George Edward. The Complete Peerage of the House of Lords and All Its Members From the Earliest Times. Revised edition. London: St Catherine Press (1959), vol. 12(2), p. 549.

See Also:

• Baildon, W. Paley (ed.). Inquisitions Post Mortem Relating to Yorkshire. (YAS#5) Yorkshire: Yorkshire Archaeological Society (1918), vol, 5, pp. 79-81 (Edmund de Holand); pp. 92-93. (Elizabeth, countess of Kent)

• Blair, C.H. Hunter (ed.). Visitations of the North. (Surtees Soc. 144) Durham: Andrews & Co. (1930), vol. 3, pp. 27-32.

• Blore, Thomas. History and Antiquities of the County of Rutland. Stanford: R. Newcomb & Son (1811), vol 1(2), p. 37. (Kent/Holand pedigree)

• Clutterbuck, Robert. History and Antiquities of Hertford. London: John Bowyer (1827), vol. 3, p. 288.

• Dobson, R.B. Durham Priory 1400-1450. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press (1973), pp. 184-191.

• FitzHerbert, Reginald H.C. Pedigree of Tailbois and Neville. Genealogist n.s.3 (1886), pp. 107-111.

• Flower, William. Visitation of Yorkshire 1563 and 1564. London: Mitchell and Hughes (H.S.P. 16) (1881), p. 223.

• Hicks, Michael A. Who's Who in Late Medieval England? London: Shepheard-Walwyn (1991), pp. 210-212.

• Jacob, Ernest Fraser. The Fifteenth Century. Oxford: Oxford University Press (1993), p. 320.

• Northumberland County History Committee. A History of Northumberland. Newcastle-upon-Tyne: A. Reid, Sons & Co. (1893), vol. 6, pp. 78-79.

• Raine, James. Wills and Inventories... London: J.B. Nichols (Surtees Soc. #2) (1835), pp. 60-63. (will of John Lumley)

• Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families. 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. Salt Lake City: the author (2011), vol. 3, pp. 249-251 NEVILLE 8. John Neville Google Books.

• Rowland, Daniel. Historical and Genealogical Account of the Noble Family of Nevill. London: Samuel Bentley (1830), pp. 33-34.

• St George, Henry. Visitation of Devon 1620. (H.S.P. 6), London: Taylor & Co. (1872), p. 346. (Holland pedigree)

• Tait, James. Neville, Ralph (1364-1425). Dictionary of National Biography archive edition.

• Transactions of the Leicestershire Architectural and Archaelogical Society. Leicester: Crossley and Clarke (1866), vol. 1, p. 316.

• Tuck, Anthony. Neville, Ralph, first earl of Westmorland. Oxford DIctionary of National Biography online edition. (23 Sep 2004, rv 3 Jan 2008), available here by subscription.

Acknowledgements

Magna Carta Project

This profile was developed for the Magna Carta Project by Jen Hutton in February 2024 and reviewed for the Project by Michael Cayley on 25 February 2024.

John Neville is not listed in Douglas Richardson's Magna Carta Ancestry but has been identified by the Magna Carta Project as trails from Gateway Ancestors Elizabeth Cooke and Stephen Terry to Magna Carta Surety Barons Hugh le Bigod and Roger Bigod. These trails have not yet been developed on WikiTree by the Magna Carta Project. They can be seen in the Magna Carta trails sections of the profiles of Martha White and Mary White.

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