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John (Ogilvy) Ogilvie (1836 - 1887)

John Ogilvie formerly Ogilvy
Born in Newtyle, Forfarshire, Scotland, United Kingdommap
Ancestors ancestors
Son of and
Brother of , , and
Husband of — married 17 Jul 1857 (to 30 Jul 1887) in Auchtergaven, Perthshire, Scotlandmap
Descendants descendants
Father of , , , , , , and
Died at age 51 in Sarnia, Lambton, Ontario, Canadamap
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Biography

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John (Ogilvy) Ogilvie migrated from Scotland to Canada.
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John (Ogilvy) Ogilvie was born in Scotland.
John (Ogilvy) Ogilvie is a member of Clan Ogilvy.

Early Life

John was born 2 Feb 1836, in Newtyle, Angus, Scotland, United Kingdom to John and Marjory Crawford Ogilvy [1]
By the time John was 15 he is found working on a farm other than the family farm. In the 1851 census he is listed as a farm laborer for a John Scott.[2]

Family

John married Mary Menzies daughter of John and Charlotte Smith Menzies on 17 Jul 1857, Auchtergaven, Perth, Scotland .[3]
Their Children are:
  1. Marjory b. 8 Aug 1857 in Auchengraven, Perthsire, Scotland, UK [4][5]
  2. Charlotte b. 6 Mar 1859 in Leblendy, Perthshire, Scotland, UK.[5][6][7]
  3. David Menzies b. 10 Mar 1861 in Hatton Of Cargill, Perthshire, UK[5][8][9]
  4. Jane Ann b. 9 Aug 1863 b. Bankfoot/ Auchtergaven, Perth, Scotland , UK[10][9]
  5. Jessie b. 3 Apr 1865, Auchtergaven, Perth, Scotland, UK[11]
  6. Mary b. 6 Sep 1866, Kilspindie, Perthshire, Scotland.[12][9]
  7. Christina Duff b. 30 Nov 1868 Dundee, Angus, Scotland, UK[13][9]
  8. Isabella b. 25 Jun 1873 Dundee, Angus, Scotland, UK[14]

Occupation

John seems to have been a man that found him self working with horses and either moving land or items behind them. To be a Carter or a Ploughman you needed to take care an tend to the horses that would pull the wagon or plow. We find him in the 1861 census listed as a Ploughman[5], and this could be the reason that his children were born in different places, but none of them far from Cargill[5] where he is listed in 1861. They would travel to the farms where he was hired to work. In 1871 he moved to pulling a cart/wagon and he now probably traiding or delievering goods for others.[9]. He and the family are now living at 45 Cow Gate St. Andrews, Angus.[9] Just before he left for Canada we find he and his family in Liff and Benvie, Angus[15]His occupation there is a Shop Porter.

Immigration

John left Scotland on the Lake Nepigon before, 29 Sep 1881, when he arrived in Quebec, Quebec, Canada[16]
His family followed him on The Buenos Ayrean. The ship arrived at Quebec, Quebec, Canada on the 10 May 1883.[17]

Death

He passed away 30 Jul 1887 in Sarnia, Lambton, Ontario, Canada. [18]

Sources

  1. ↑ Birth or Baptism "Church of Scotland: Old Parish Registers-Birth and Baptism"
    National Records of Scotland, Parish Number: 314 Record number 20 / 30ScotlandsPeoples
    John Ogilvy and May Crawford in record for John Ogilvy, 21/02/1836 Newtyle.
  2. ↑ 1851 Census "Scottish General Register Office: 1851 Census Returns database, FreeCEN (https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/63cd4407f493fd6eeaf58ac9 : viewed 11 Jun 2023), John OGILVIE in household of John SCOTT, Burnside, Perthshire, Scotland; from 1851 "England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images; citing The National Archives /332, Folio 0, Page 5, Schedule 17, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey.
  3. ↑ *Marriage"Scotland Marriages, 1561-1910
    FamilySearch Record: XYSB-45B (accessed 8 December 2014)
    John Ogilvie and Mary Menzies, 17 Jul 1857, Auchtergaven,Perth,Scotland
  4. ↑ Birth"Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
    FamilySearch Record: FQZ6-CV1 :(accessed 9 June 2023)
    John Ogilvie and Mary Menzies in record for Marjory Ogilvie, 1857.
  5. ↑ 5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4 1861 Census Ancestry.com. 1861 Scotland Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006. Parish: Cargill; ED: 2; Page: 3; Line: 15; Roll: CSSCT1861_48 Ancestry Record 1080 #681853
  6. ↑ Birth"Statutory Registers,"
    National Records of Scotland Parish Number: 372/ 2 Record Number: 372/ 2: 1, 20 ScotlandsPeoples
    Mary Menzies, John Ogilvie in record for Charlotte 1859 .
  7. ↑ Birth"Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950"
    FamilySearch Record: FQ4W-JQ2(accessed 9 June 2023), Charlotte Ogilvie, 1859.
  8. ↑ Birth"Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950,
    FamilySearch Person: F7SN-NWP(2 January 2015), David Ogilvie, 10 Mar 1861; citing CARGILL,PERTH,SCOTLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 6,035,516.
  9. ↑ 9.0 9.1 9.2 9.3 9.4 9.5 1871 Census Ancestry.com. 1871 Scotland Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007.
    Parish: St Andrew; ED: 2; Page: 20; Line: 1; Roll: CSSCT1871_52 Ancestry Record 1104 #1232325
  10. ↑ Birth "Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950"
    FamilySearch Record: FQ7W-B7V(12 February 2020)
    Jane Ann Ogilvie, 1863.
  11. ↑ Birth "Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950"
    FamilySearch Record: FQ74-9HZ(accessed 12 February 2020), Jessie Ogilvie, 1865.
  12. ↑ Birth "Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950"
    FamilySearch Record: FQ74-DY9(accessed 7 June 2023), John Ogilvie, Mary Menzies in entry for Mary Ogilvie, 1866.
  13. ↑ Birth"Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950"
    FamilySearch Record: XYRF-6J1(accessed 7 June 2023)
    John Ogilvie, Mary Menzies in entry for Christina Ogilvie,Dundee, Angus, Scotland, United Kingdom 1868.
  14. ↑ *Birth "Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950"
    FamilySearch Record: XYRX-STR(accessed 7 June 2023)
    John Ogilvie, Mary Menzies in entry for Isabella Ogilvie,Dundee, Angus, Scotland, United Kingdom, 1873.
  15. ↑ 1881 CensusAncestry.com. 1881 Scotland Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007.
    Parish: Liff and Benvie; ED: 24; Page: 2; Line: 7; Roll: cssct1881_83
    Ancestry Record 1119 #1464901
  16. ↑ ImmigrationAncestry.com. Canada, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010.
    Library and Archives Canada; Ottawa, Ontario, Canada; Series: RG 76-C; Roll: C-4531
    Ancestry Record 1263 #764494
  17. ↑ Immigration Ancestry.com. Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010. Original data: Passenger Lists, 1865'961935. Microfilm Publications T-479 to T-520, T-4689 to T-4874, T-14700 to T-14939, C-4511 to C-4542. Library and Archives Canada, n.d. RG 76-C. Department of Employment and Immigration fonds. Library and Archives Canada Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
    Ancestry Record 1263 #791291
  18. ↑ FIND A GRAVE, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 1 June 2021), memorial no. 87097310, John Ogilvie (1835-1887)
    maintained by Julia Hogston nee McCartney
    citing Lakeview Cemetery, Sarnia, Lambton County, Ontario, Canada; Find A Grave: Memorial #87097310




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