Bernard Rogers (1543 - 1563)

Born 1543 in Wittenburg, Saxony-Anhalt, Deutschland

Ancestors

Descendants

Died 1563 at about age 20 in England

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Caution: Rogers' lineages were affected by Gustav Anjou, a genealogy fraudster who made his living writing false pedigrees in the early 1900s; sadly, portions of this profile appear to fit Anjou's modus operandi. ^[1]

Biography

Bernard was the son of John Rogers and Adriana (Pratt) de Weyden. ^[2] He may have been born in Wittenberg, Germany before his father returned to England in 1548 (see his father's profile).

He, along with his mother and siblings, witnessed his father’s burning at the stake in 1555.^[3]

No records indicate Bernard had longevity into full adulthood.^[4][5]

Burial: Barnard Rogers, buried 11 November 1563, at St Dunstan in the West, City of London.^[6]

Research Notes

The first known mention of Bernard Rogers was made by renowned genealogist, Joseph L. Chester, in his 1861 publication on the life of John Rogers, Martyr. ^[5] Bernard resurfaces in a 1911 family chronicle published by John C. Underwood, wherein Underwood posed unsourced claims of ancestry to the martyr through this son. In doing so, Underwood alleged Bernard Rogers married an unnamed wife in 1564 and had one son, Thomas Matthew, b. 1565. ^[7] It is now believed these were fictitious claims crafted by Underwood using resources provided in part by genealogy fraudster Gustav Anjou. (See discussion and more notes re: this topic, if desired.)

Wives

Bernard has previously been shown as husband of three different people, with all the marriages said to have taken place in 1564:

• Agnes Carter, with the marriage taking place in Scotland
• Mary, last name unknown, with the marriage taking place in Scotland
• Ann Leete, with the marriage taking place in Wittenberg.

No sources have been given, and very obviously it strains credibility to think that he could have married three women, two in Scotland one in Wittenberg, in the same year. In the absence of anything to elucidate this, the alleged wives are currently all detached. There is a possibility that Bernard never married - see research note on his death.

As far as Agnes Carter is concerned, it is likely that there has been confusion with Agnes, who was the widow of someone last name Carter and who married John Rogers, grandfather of the fiery preacher John Rogers of Dedham, known as Roaring John Rogers.

As far as Mary Unknown and Ann Leete are concerned, Bernard’s brother John married a Mary Leete, whose father was a lawyer of Cambridgeshire, and there may be confusion with her.

Children

There do not appear to be any primary sources linking Bernard Rogers to the children currently attached to this profile.

This profile has previously, without sourcing**, suggested that by his marriage to Mary Unknown Bernard had these children:

• Thomas Matthew Rogers, born 1565, who married circa 1586 to Miss McMurds
• Jiles (Giles) Rogers
• Samuel Rogers who was the father of Robert Rogers, who married Francis Russell. They were said to be the parents of Hugh Rogers.

(**See Source notes here:  : ^[8] --added per C-213 20:16, 18 September 2019 (UTC))

Other children have been shown in the past on WikiTree as having Agnes Carter as their mother, with no sourcing.

Death

Bernard's brother Daniel wrote his will on 10 February 1590/91 in which bros. John and Ambrose inherit legacies; no other siblings are mentioned, including Bernard, suggesting he was deceased and had no living adjuncts to inherit legacies. ~ kc 20:16, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

This profile has previously shown two death dates, without sourcing:

• 1583 in Scotland
• 20 February 1609 in Stratford-upon-Avon, Warwickshire.

There is, however, a burial record for a Barnard Rogers, dated 11 November 1563, at St Dunstan in the West, City of London.^[6] If this burial record is for Bernard, son of John Rogers the martyr, then Bernard would have been about 20 years old when he died, too young to be married with several children. The Rogers family do have a known connection to the parish of St Dunstan in the West, as Bernard's brother Ambrose Rogers was living there in 1592, when he applied for his marriage license.^[9] ~ Donnelly-2171 11:17, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

While identified as a known son of the martyr, "Chester found no evidence that Bernard had any posterity." ^[4][5]

From an online family tree

He received some of his education in Germany and then returned [sic] to England when he was an adult. Not much is known about Bernard other than the fact he moved to northern England and then Scotland where he married. Nothing is known about his wife but we know he had at least one son - Thomas Matthew - who was probably named after his grandfather's use of the pseudonym when he published his English version of the Bible. He could, of course, also have been named for Matthew Furneaux, one of his ancestors. ^[10]

Sources

1. ↑ Anjou researched family lineages, including Rogers' lines, for wealthy people who wanted influential pedigrees to boost their social/political standing; unfortunately, Anjou falsified pedigrees to gain wealth, status and an opulent lifestyle for himself. Check here, here and the linked category Gustave Anjou Fraud found at the bottom of this profile for more information re: Anjou's patterns of fraud.
2. ↑ Sir George John Armitage (ed.). Middlesex pedigrees as collected by Richard Mundy in Harleian MS No. 1551 (the Visitation of Middlesex, 1634), Harleian Society, Vol. LXV, 1984, pp. 84-85, pedigree for Rogers of Sunbury, Internet Archive
3. ↑ "Oxford Dictionary of National Biography", entry for 'Rogers, John (c. 1500–1555)', print and online 2004, available online via some libraries
4. ↑ ^{4.0 4.1} per Stott, Clifford L.. "The English Ancestry of the Pilgrim Thomas Rogers and his wife Alice (Cosford) Rogers." The Genealogist. 10:2. Thomas Rogers Society, n.d. thomasrogerssociety.com Notes, line 3.
5. ↑ ^{5.0 5.1 5.2} Chester, Joseph Lemuel. John Rogers: the compiler of the first authorised English Bible:... . Longman, Green, Longman & Roberts, 1861. Internet Archives. archive.org p223-24
6. ↑ ^{6.0 6.1} "England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JDHZ-22W : 10 February 2018), Barnard Rogers, burial 11 Nov 1563; citing St. Dunstan-In-The-West, London, England, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 396,193.
7. ↑ Underwood, John C. Lineage of the Rogers family, England : embracing John Rogers the martyr, emigrant descendants to America and issue. NY: Wm. Rudge, 1911. p29-30.
8. ↑ The Rogers Name. Osborne, Susan Blake, compiler. Citing Charles Alva Rogers (Charlie), son of Forrest Rogers who was the brother of Charlotte Deliah Rogers. rogersdna, n.d. index.
9. ↑ Foster, Joseph (ed.) London Marriage Licenses 1521-1869 (London : Bernard Quaritch, 1887) col. 1148, entry for Ambrose Rogers; images, Internet Archive (https://archive.org : accessed 9 August 2019).
10. ↑ "Bernard Rogers" page, http://www.deloriahurst.com, citing "History of Mayflower Planters," by L.C. Hills

See also:

• Frost, Josephine C., Ancestors of Amyntas Shaw and His Wife Lucy Tufts Williams (Not Published, 1920) Page 28
• http://www.deloriahurst.com/deloriahurst%20page/2195.html
• Trees on the web:
  • Ancestry Family Trees
  • Bernard Rogers on Geni
  • http://www.ourfamilyhistories.org/getperson.php?personID=I32466&tree=00