Charles Comer Sage (1797 - abt. 1879)

Born 11 Jul 1797 in Elk Creek, Grayson, Virginia

Ancestors

Descendants

Died about 3 Dec 1879 at about age 82 in Miami County, Kansas [uncertain]

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Biography

Pre-merge prep being done--as this is the lowest # profile, this is where changes should be made. Merges completed 8-10-17 & 12-3-18

As of July 2017, I have found no documentary evidence supporting the middle name 'Comer'. No records were located for his marriage or his wife Elizabeth Bryant^[1]; so I have not added her here. If a more direct descendant has such information, please add it and her profile.

It is not definitive proof of the middle name of "Comer" but through out the book, "March of the Sages Ed by Bonnie Sage Ball, the middle name of "Comer" is used consistently. While not documentary; this indicates a tradition within the family of using that name.

I will add the little info I've collected for some of Charles' children. It is not complete but just enough to connect them. Hopefully others more closely related will continue.

1830 Census

See photo. The families of both Charles and his brother Sampson Sage-263 are on this sheet. I have attempted to sort out/notate Charles' children--there may be errors.

Name Charles Sage

Event Place Lee County, Virginia, United States^[2]

1840 Census

See photo. I have again attempted to sort out/notate Charles' children. I've assumed James and Margaret are out on their own. There are two unknown sons and some confusion with the daughters as well.

Name Charles Sage

Event Place Lee County, Virginia, United States^[3]

1850 Census

See photo. Charles is listed here with some of his younger children, but with no wife. This supports the FaGR note that his wife died ~1844. Charles' daughter Anna's (Tharp) family is living next door-see next sheet continued on her profile. In the home is the oldest child from his daughter Margaret's first marriage, John Wesley GWINN/GWIN/GUIN Sage. See additional notation on the census page. John is seen later as a Reverend and is normally using the surname SAGE.

Name Charles Sage

Event Place Cass County, Missouri, United States

Biographical information contained in the book "March of the Sages" Edited by Bonnie Sage Ball copyright 1967.

"Charles Sage apparently spent some time in Lee County, VA, near his older brothers, James and Sampson, prior to 1820, but was in Whitley Co., KY at the time of the 1820 Census there. In 1832 he was again in Lee County, VA, as shown by land records there.

About 1840 he moved to Jackson County, MO, near Independence, where he was living eight years later, when he miraculously located his sister, Cary, who had been abducted from their home in Grayson County, VA in 1792. (before Charles was born), and had lived with the Cherokee Indians for some years. Later she lived with the Wyandotte tribe that migrated to land near Kansas City in 1840.

Following the discovery of his long lost sister, Charles wrote ten interesting letters to his aged mother, Louis, in Virginia, nine of which are still in existence. (For the complete story see RED TRAILS AND WHITE, by Bonnie Ball, and shoes in this volume).

(Charles Sage lived to be eighty-two. he spend his last years with John W. Sage, his oldest grandson, and his son, William, at Miami County, Kansas where he died in 1879.)"

Household Role Sex Age Birthplace

Charles Sage M 53 Virginia

Lydia Sage F 20 Virginia

Katharine Sage F 17 Virginia

Charles Sage M 14 Virginia

John W Sage M 13 Virginia^[4]

1860 Census

Not located. The late 1850's/early 1860's is the period when he made the discovery of his older sister Caty Sage-217 and was attempting to get her back home to Grayson County.^[5]

1865 Kansas Census

See his son, Charles', profile for data. Charles is in Douglas County, Kansas living with his son's family. He is listed as 69 years old and born in VA.

1870 Census

See photo and see his son, Charles', profile for data. Charles is in Bates County, Missouri living with his son's family. He is listed as 73 years old and born in VA.

1879 Death

I've found no information beyond what is listed at Find A Grave Memorial# 101838593 by Darrel Salisbury. ^[6]

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Birth

ID: AE30884E-CA4C-4AC8-9A94-AF437ABD4837

ID Number: MH:IF3455

Death

ID: E5A05A11-28CF-46C4-BFE8-62FCE06DC6FD

ID Number: MH:IF3456

Record ID Number

ID Number: MH:I815

User ID

ID: DE89DF88-0CB4-4835-B163-86B6E8448DD2

UPD

29 APR 2013 01:53:12 GMT-5

Sources

1. ↑ Elizabeth Bryant's Find A Grave Memorial# 101838737
2. ↑ Page 321, The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) Publication Number M19, Film Number 191, GS Film Number 0029670, Digital Folder Number 005156032, Image Number 00644
3. ↑ Page 103, The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) Publication Number M704, Film Number 566, GS Film Number 0029689, Digital Folder Number 005154917, Image Number 00210
4. ↑ Household ID 678, Line Number 40, The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) Publication Number M432, Film Number 395, GS Film Number 443603, Digital Folder Number 004200555, Image Number 00220
5. ↑ http://www.blueridgeinstitute.org/ballads/catysagenews.html
6. ↑ https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=101838593

See also:

• http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/v/e/r/Victoria-Durand-Texas/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0408.html

Acknowledgments

Click to the Changes page for the details of edits by Jennifer, Dawn and others.

• Thank you to Jennifer Mellen for creating WikiTree profile Sage-258 through the import of family tree.ged on May 17, 2013.
• Thank you to Dawn Elliott for creating WikiTree profile Sage-717 Tuesday, February 10, 2015.
• Thank you to Tracie Combs for creating WikiTree profile Sage-883 through the import of Combs-Cantu Family Tree Nov15.ged on Nov 28, 2015.
• The March of the Sages edited by Bonnie Sage Ball, copyright 1967, Commonwealth Press, Inc., Redford, Virginia.

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